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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 351. (Read 531164 times)

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nominal power consumption of 1375 watts*.

TL;DR Fuck home miners.

I guess Ethereum is where I focus now.

This FTW !!!


It's a shame you have to secure another chain to earn btc, some people might stay on that chain and leave btc for good, but that's what you get with centralisation of the (hashing) power
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Yea with the halvening happening a month from now, these are too highly priced to be taken seriously.  I'll just hobble along with my 2.3 S7's and shake my head at the people plunking down thousands for this new hardware.
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Impressive... probably will wait until at least batch 2 or 3 to see where the price falls. I got sucked into Batch 1 S7 and that price changed quickly...

same here. will wait too.
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'The right to privacy matters'
Here goes nothing...
(Remembering Batch 1 of the S7 eh Phil?)
It's just money, right?

well they did finally pay me the compensation.  Roll Eyes


Which is why I got this one. 

So effectively  I was paid 150 in btc on may 1 which turned into 200 now.

I sincerely thought they would not ever send the money to me.

So I am paying 200 less then normal on this. Grin

The solar array will move from  22th to 36th.

Maybe I will sell a pair of avalons to off set the cost of this a bit.

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Basically this is looking like the S7 all over again. I never made back the BTC I put into those B1 units. I only got ROI in fiat terms because BTC doubled in price and I sold off my miners early. I would have been much better off just buying BTC.


Ditto here except I have 3 different batches of S7's that haven't made the cost back (in BTC).  Should have just held the BTC.  I expect the value of BTC to rise more in the coming month so it looks even more likely that holding BTC now is going to offer a better return than buying one of these.
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Please everyone buy as many of those as you can so that Bitmain can ROI faster and lower the price for Batch 3 or 4. Thank you Smiley

Seriously though, a great machine (I didn't expect 0.1 GH/J) but the price is a big FU.

Exactly this.

More Guineapigs/Lemmings required to purchase these please - roll up, roll up!

I'll come back in a month or two when faults/prices/shipping delays are within reason.
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Please everyone buy as many of those as you can so that Bitmain can ROI faster and lower the price for Batch 3 or 4. Thank you Smiley

Seriously though, a great machine (I didn't expect 0.1 GH/J) but the price is a big FU.

A bro has to make $$
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Please everyone buy as many of those as you can so that Bitmain can ROI faster and lower the price for Batch 3 or 4. Thank you Smiley

Seriously though, a great machine (I didn't expect 0.1 GH/J) but the price is a big FU.
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It will be great to get a few in my hands. S7 will be dead.
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Nice machine. Bad price. No surprises.

The Bitcoinwisdom mining calculator does not automatically take the halving into account does it? I don't think it does, which makes it a little tricky to really compute an ROI. You basically have to come up with a value up till July 10th, then compute again from that date with half the hash rate.

When I do that, it doesn't look pretty. At 5% difficulty and free power, one of these rolls in with a 430 day ROI. Of course that's probably optimistic because when these hit the streets the difficulty is going to go through the roof.

So I tried modeling a 10% difficulty up until the halving, and 3% after (assuming that things settle down for a while). That turns the ROI into 304 days. This is still a very risky investment.

Basically this is looking like the S7 all over again. I never made back the BTC I put into those B1 units. I only got ROI in fiat terms because BTC doubled in price and I sold off my miners early. I would have been much better off just buying BTC.

I'm going to sit this one out and see what the landscape looks like after the price drops.
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I cannot believe that people are ordering these.  You will be mining after the halving with these and a best case scenario is that you break even in about 2 years.

What are you guys thinking   Huh Huh
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Impressive... probably will wait until at least batch 2 or 3 to see where the price falls. I got sucked into Batch 1 S7 and that price changed quickly...
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Very, very nice!

Game over BitFury
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Very nice, congrats bitmain!

Personally I'll be letting the halving dust settle before I buy any more ASICs.

Yeah, same here...
by that time, those asics might cost ~ 2btc
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Very nice, congrats bitmain!

Personally I'll be letting the halving dust settle before I buy any more ASICs.
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Not sure what they have in mind for the controller board? It's populated for 4 Hash Boards and 2 Fans but has provision for 20 Hash Boards and 10 Fans...

Each of the 3 Hash boards has 63 chips arranged as 21 nodes of 3 chips, and looks to be the same design as the 135 chip S7 with a Buck Converter feeding the string. If the voltage fed to the string was the same as the S7 at 10.5V this would give a core voltage of 0.5V / Chip.


Rich
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may be the beast of all time

Indeed..

My brother and I were just talking about starting up a mini mining operation.. I said wait on a miner to be released and well.. here we are...
legendary
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I picked one up this is nice i have limited space for miners these days so I like the compact form factor and same power draw as my S7
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
Here goes nothing...
(Remembering Batch 1 of the S7 eh Phil?)
It's just money, right?
legendary
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Holy Moses, they did it again.
Only problem is ROI with that price tag. We are looking at more than 140 days.

Exactly,with the halving coming,who knows what the price of BTC will be.......at $2100 + shipping,not so sure it'll ROI even in that time frame  Undecided

Oh crap,I said ROI,now I'm a business as per KnC specs  Roll Eyes

Pretty impressive though  Cool  Congrats Bitmain!!!  Cheesy

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