Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 9. (Read 531164 times)
June 06, 2018, 12:49:06 PM
anyone have any $400 coupons left? I could use a few.. PM me!
June 06, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...
You know hes actually correct. Heat gun and tweezers is the official bitmain way. That is what they teach you in the training courses, which I have been through.
They say it is faster and much more cost effective than using a machine. They actually showed me thier chip placing machine(cant for the life of me remember its actual name) onsite, covered and put away because they just dont use it.
Heat gun will just damage the chips if not done properly. A rework station does not cost all that much and you can also place it 100% in the correct spot everytime and not have to worry about get solder on other pins and damaging the chip from over heating.
June 06, 2018, 11:02:52 AM
^^ and depending on the model and temps, s9 power draw can be as low as 1250W (s9 batch-1 uc to 550MHz producing 12.75THs)
June 06, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
S9 will not profit soon ?
S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.
See example below :-
(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11
* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.
S9s only pull arond 1400w, so you might want to revise your numbers.
June 06, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...
You know hes actually correct. Heat gun and tweezers is the official bitmain way. That is what they teach you in the training courses, which I have been through.
They say it is faster and much more cost effective than using a machine. They actually showed me thier chip placing machine(cant for the life of me remember its actual name) onsite, covered and put away because they just dont use it.
June 06, 2018, 09:55:28 AM
S9 will not profit soon ?
S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.
See example below :-
(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11
* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.
That doesnt look good. If the 13cents guys gets taken out, it will be the 12 and 11 cents guys next
Hopefully bitmain clears their backlog of wafer orders soon and does not over-order again. I believe that is the issue here. The new entrant GMO with their new 24TH for 1950watt miner at 1999 USD just cant compete at that price and I doubt they can price it much lower to compete. Bitcoin price increase would be great too.
June 06, 2018, 05:48:26 AM
S9 will not profit soon ?
S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.
See example below :-
(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11
* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.
June 06, 2018, 03:16:14 AM
Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.
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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
What was of topic with this message:
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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
In one of my installation, board temperatures are in the range of 82-89 C. Ambient temperature is about 36-40 C, real hot due to summer at the moment. They run fine, occasionally hitting the upper limit and idle.
June 06, 2018, 02:44:59 AM
Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.
What was of topic with this message:
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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
What was of topic with this message:
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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
All my messages from the previous several days have been deleted...
Same here. Hmmm unfortunate. It had good info and it was about mining. I read an analyst report and it suggested 30-40% prepaid wafers by bitmain had been deployed. This is on in may.
So, I guess they still have to dump machines due to too much prepaid wafers, probably ordered in error during the times when the S9s sold out in 2 mins when released lol. Hopefully it gets cleared soon and no more wafer over-orders occur. The Z9 now becomes a 2 for 1 lol. They wanna clear the wafers that bad.
Maybe now 60-70% of wafers have been cleared?
June 06, 2018, 12:58:52 AM
Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.
What was of topic with this message:
Quote
Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
What was of topic with this message:
Quote
Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.
1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool
1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
June 05, 2018, 07:52:24 PM
It has been a long time since I manually setup any miner.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)
I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.
Thanks.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)
I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.
Thanks.
If you connect the miner directly to your laptop, set your laptop to an IP in the range of 169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255, subnet mask 255.255.0.0. Without DHCP server both the miner and the laptop will auto acquire an IP in that range.
June 05, 2018, 05:33:37 PM
The s9 default is using DHCP so you will need to look at the router for the address. Once in you can then set it to a static address. Routers generally use either the first address (.1) or the last one .254, at home mine is .254 while at work it is .1
Ideally both the router and laptop should be on the same subnet.
Ideally both the router and laptop should be on the same subnet.
June 05, 2018, 05:22:03 PM
It has been a long time since I manually setup any miner.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)
I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.
Thanks.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)
I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.
Thanks.
June 04, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
I swear it is extremely easy to do with tweezers
Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...
June 04, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
Time for the S11+mini!!
maybe .
I really hope they go lower watts with it.
I have space I do not have a ton of cheap power available
I would like to use a piece of gear that does 800 watts and mines 12000 th
that would be 0.0667 watts a gh
most likely it will use 1300 watts and do 18th which is 0.0722 watts a gh.
the t1 does 14.2 th at 1300 watts which is 0.0915 watts
June 04, 2018, 01:13:09 PM
Time for the S11+mini!!
June 04, 2018, 01:05:51 PM
massive dump of gear . 750 -100 coupon = 650 for an s9 add back ship 750 a unit.
looks like a new miner is very soon!
June 04, 2018, 12:25:18 PM
massive dump of gear . 750 -100 coupon = 650 for an s9 add back ship 750 a unit.
June 04, 2018, 11:29:21 AM
Also you need a rework station to unsolder and resolder chips onto the s9. Machines can be gotten for under 5k used.
June 04, 2018, 11:28:04 AM
New email
Dear subscriber,
You can now purchase the Antminer S9i-14TH/s miner at the following limited-time discounted prices:
Type
With PSU
(USD)
Without PSU
Units per order
Shipping Period
Antminer S9i-14TH/s
750
665
0 - 499
June 21 - June 30
744
659
500 - 1,999*
736
651
2,000 - 4,999*
729
644
5,000 - 99,999*
722
637
0 – 499
July 01 - July 10
714
629
500 - 1,999*
707
622
2,000 - 4,999*
700
615
5,000 - 99,999*
The Antminer S9i is our highest selling model and remains the world’s most popular miner to mine Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin and other SHA256 cryptocurrencies.
This limited-time promotion ends at 11AM on 12 June (GMT+8), after which the price will automatically revert back to the pre-promotion price.
Regards,
The Bitmain Team
Dear subscriber,
You can now purchase the Antminer S9i-14TH/s miner at the following limited-time discounted prices:
Type
With PSU
(USD)
Without PSU
Units per order
Shipping Period
Antminer S9i-14TH/s
750
665
0 - 499
June 21 - June 30
744
659
500 - 1,999*
736
651
2,000 - 4,999*
729
644
5,000 - 99,999*
722
637
0 – 499
July 01 - July 10
714
629
500 - 1,999*
707
622
2,000 - 4,999*
700
615
5,000 - 99,999*
The Antminer S9i is our highest selling model and remains the world’s most popular miner to mine Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin and other SHA256 cryptocurrencies.
This limited-time promotion ends at 11AM on 12 June (GMT+8), after which the price will automatically revert back to the pre-promotion price.
Regards,
The Bitmain Team
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