Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 167.

AchrafB

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Quote from: Pistachio on May 30, 2014, 07:23:01 AM

Quote from: jedimstr on May 30, 2014, 02:26:48 AM

Quote from: AchrafB on May 30, 2014, 12:56:07 AM

i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

Not a conspiracy theory. And Eastern Europe has really nothing to do with it. A criminal is a criminal no matter where he's from. I could say he's from New York and it wouldn't make a difference. Got some close Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukranian friends, so he can be from Mars for all I care.

It's like you're defending dropping off your child at a daycare center run by a known and registered child molester. Wouldn't something like that give you pause? Would you still defend him?

All of this stuff came up when Blackarrow was selling FPGA boards from cardreaderfactory.com. You can read all about it in the Lancelot sales thread. It turned out not to be a problem then and I doubt it will be a problem now. We can all agree that this could have been handled better but I don't think bringing this stuff up again is fruitful at this point.

yes I had read the anecdote that's it who's alex if its the international scammer from romania...! I can share your opinion on the fact that nobody knows who manages and how and from where but to doubt at this stage if its a scam i think its too late for that the chips exists minersource have already been delivered and right now i grant you they don't care about time because all requirments are there they take their time against the wish of everyone

Pistachio

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Quote from: jedimstr on May 30, 2014, 02:26:48 AM

Quote from: AchrafB on May 30, 2014, 12:56:07 AM

i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

Not a conspiracy theory. And Eastern Europe has really nothing to do with it. A criminal is a criminal no matter where he's from. I could say he's from New York and it wouldn't make a difference. Got some close Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukranian friends, so he can be from Mars for all I care.

It's like you're defending dropping off your child at a daycare center run by a known and registered child molester. Wouldn't something like that give you pause? Would you still defend him?

All of this stuff came up when Blackarrow was selling FPGA boards from cardreaderfactory.com. You can read all about it in the Lancelot sales thread. It turned out not to be a problem then and I doubt it will be a problem now. We can all agree that this could have been handled better but I don't think bringing this stuff up again is fruitful at this point.

Specialkey

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Quote from: Specialkey on May 30, 2014, 02:59:28 AM

3 months delay and even not ready with the X 3 and no real end in sight.

What shall the people think about such a mess?

Hope it is no scam and that they will be able to deliever.

Clearly my last pre-order in my whole life.

Last message from BA:

As per management's update. We are not ignoring compensation. We have promised things and we will fulfill our promises. However we want to do it properly.

For that reason we first want to get shipping running and get back to business as usual. However we will do the right thing.

As the team are trying to overcome this current challenge, we are just waiting for new updates from the management to be released; then we are to be able to give more information soon.

We understand your concerns, and be assured that all efforts to expedite everything; is aimed to give our customers the best of our products and services.

Sincerely,
Sylvia

The really fast reply gives a little hope

Specialkey

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3 months delay and even not ready with the X 3 and no real end in sight.

What shall the people think about such a mess?

Hope it is no scam and that they will be able to deliever.

Clearly my last pre-order in my whole life.

AchrafB

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Quote from: jedimstr on May 30, 2014, 02:26:48 AM

Quote from: AchrafB on May 30, 2014, 12:56:07 AM

i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

Not a conspiracy theory. And Eastern Europe has really nothing to do with it. A criminal is a criminal no matter where he's from. I could say he's from New York and it wouldn't make a difference. Got some close Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukranian friends, so he can be from Mars for all I care.

It's like you're defending dropping off your child at a daycare center run by a known and registered child molester. Wouldn't something like that give you pause? Would you still defend him?

im defending nobody Im just trying to bring how I see things we're all here participated to this project of our own free will and just ask old sceners it's not the 1st time this scenario has generated a lot of ink about all manufacturers from BF, hashfast, knc....

jedimstr

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Quote from: AchrafB on May 30, 2014, 12:56:07 AM

i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

Not a conspiracy theory. And Eastern Europe has really nothing to do with it. A criminal is a criminal no matter where he's from. I could say he's from New York and it wouldn't make a difference. Got some close Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukranian friends, so he can be from Mars for all I care.

It's like you're defending dropping off your child at a daycare center run by a known and registered child molester. Wouldn't something like that give you pause? Would you still defend him?

AchrafB

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i have like a presentiment that is the last week and shipments will begin around next week !
to be serious for a moment the official and unofficials teams (china, US, europe) are in the process of finding the right solutions for everyone
besides the issues with x3 backplane i think it there's other things to take into consideration for others of us like getting a plug'n'play product, the hosting platforme, the refunds, re-sellers program ....
all that just to reflect and give good vibes to the staffs and costumers and STOP with ur conspiracies about alex and the people of eastern europe!

Achraf Bouzidi

btct22

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The only thing that's given me confidence in BA's actual ability to deliver these miners is that there is a driver for it: https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/commits/master - as of late there have been a lot of commits of code for the Minion chip. If all the chip orders have gone out, where did they go, and is there anyone with a variant miner model running with these?

Glizlack

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That would involve lots of coordination. Who do you think could manage such a level of deceit?

Steve

Glizlack

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Didn't BA claim before a case isn't really a big deal? In shenzen it only takes a couple of days? I know thats what terry of Zeusminer has been saying. It just doesn't take that long to do anything but the main chip is what i got out of the terry of zuesminer's posts.

Steve

Boognish

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Quote from: sebdude420 on May 29, 2014, 09:04:12 PM

I have been getting anxious the past couple days and wanted to cancel my order but I have changed my mind and have decided that BA may finally give us what we all have been waiting for and plus some extra bonus.

Fair response. Honestly, I'm right there with you. I have a few X1 orders and keep debating asking for a refund from MS. For the moment I'm holding out as well, I hope you're right.

sebdude420

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Quote from: Boognish on May 29, 2014, 08:33:42 PM

Quote from: sebdude420 on May 29, 2014, 07:53:05 PM

I cancel my refund request.

I am going to be patient and just tough it out.

Hope BA does right and makes us all happy.

Patiently waiting for 30 X-1. Ill wait til the controllers and LCD touch screens are done also.

Take your time Black Arrow.

Keep up the good work we were getting scared you were going to run off with our money! LOL!

Not sure if sarcastic. . . .

I have been getting anxious the past couple days and wanted to cancel my order but I have changed my mind and have decided that BA may finally give us what we all have been waiting for and plus some extra bonus.

Boognish

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Quote from: sebdude420 on May 29, 2014, 07:53:05 PM

I cancel my refund request.

I am going to be patient and just tough it out.

Hope BA does right and makes us all happy.

Patiently waiting for 30 X-1. Ill wait til the controllers and LCD touch screens are done also.

Take your time Black Arrow.

Keep up the good work we were getting scared you were going to run off with our money! LOL!

Not sure if sarcastic. . . .

jedimstr

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Quote from: fivejonnyfive on May 29, 2014, 06:07:09 PM

Quote from: goozman96 on May 29, 2014, 05:14:17 PM

I posted a link to the documents but it got deleted by Blackarrow. I reposted it in the scam accusations thread by the user 'notbatman'.

Let's see if _this_ post gets deleted too..

At the risk of being accused of shilling myself as well, I've seen these documents, and they demonstrate nothing.

There are indications of tax shelters, and people were concerned that the director of a Hong Kong company was a Bulgarian (or was it Hungarian?) living in Britian.

Maybe that raises questions, perhaps. But there's nothing that demonstrates a scam.

Maybe they were deleted as a cover up, maybe they were deleted because they contain some dudes home address and private email. I honestly don't know.

I don't see a scam. I see another delayed piece of bitcoin hardware by a company that still has an opportunity to at least partially make things right.

It's the history of the man those documents point to that's the interesting bit. Alex Sovu of Romania and Berkshire, UK has had various previous businesses and "scams" under both his name and aliases such as "Alex Berk". Would you trust a seemingly legitimate company, that's proven to be badly run, maybe, if it was run by someone who's had a string of scams and cons in the past?

It's very very similar to BFL who's principles include con artists who ran mail scams targeting the elderly. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a more of a police blotter/rap sheet.

Countdown to this post being deleted....begins..... Now.

sebdude420

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I cancel my refund request.

I am going to be patient and just tough it out.

Hope BA does right and makes us all happy.

Patiently waiting for 30 X-1. Ill wait til the controllers and LCD touch screens are done also.

Take your time Black Arrow.

Keep up the good work we were getting scared you were going to run off with our money! LOL!

emkay47

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Can I somehow sell my Prospero X-3 order ?
I have 2 x X-3 ordered on a single invoice paid through bank wire . I want to sell one of them .
Is it possible to transfer my order ?
I am willing to sell one X-3 for BTC . I can escrow too if required .

If its possible and anyone is interested just PM me .
My order number is #36** .

I will also transfer one of my extra PSU's for free , for the compensated X-3 unit .

fivejonnyfive

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Quote from: goozman96 on May 29, 2014, 05:14:17 PM

I posted a link to the documents but it got deleted by Blackarrow. I reposted it in the scam accusations thread by the user 'notbatman'.

Let's see if _this_ post gets deleted too..

At the risk of being accused of shilling myself as well, I've seen these documents, and they demonstrate nothing.

There are indications of tax shelters, and people were concerned that the director of a Hong Kong company was a Bulgarian (or was it Hungarian?) living in Britian.

Maybe that raises questions, perhaps. But there's nothing that demonstrates a scam.

Maybe they were deleted as a cover up, maybe they were deleted because they contain some dudes home address and private email. I honestly don't know.

I don't see a scam. I see another delayed piece of bitcoin hardware by a company that still has an opportunity to at least partially make things right.

BitCoin Operated Boy

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Quote from: Lexx2k on May 29, 2014, 12:35:35 AM

Quote from: BitCoin Operated Boy on May 29, 2014, 12:03:05 AM

I have just received documents with a lot of info about the director of BA. The company is actually registered in Hong Kong not inland PRC which makes it much easier to chase it legally. The owner is Romanian living in UK. From all the info related to director it seems that the company may be highly suspicious. If things won't get clarified shipping/refund wise within next to weeks that would make it pretty obvious it is a well designed scam... I won't post more info here because I don't want to get censored :-)

Said nothing what would prove your point, i guess a lot of people know where is he from and where company registered - obviously it's stated on the website. Rest is just another unproved hater bla bla. Otherwise please provide proof.

Proof of what?
Proof of not delivering the unit months ago and refusing to refund?
It's self evident

Who are you anyway? You have had no forum activity and suddenly you came up with some suspicious random post defending BA.
I bet you have not even ordered anything from this company.

And you you want a proof then talk to LennonNZ to give you a link

tempestb

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Why would anyone buy them with their terrible Watt to GH ratio? They can produce all those chips they want, nobody is going to buy them. And if the difficulty rises, the first miners to get switched off will be these. Between Spondoolie, Blackarrow and BFL all releasing much better performing watt to GH chips, I don't see why anyone would buy these unless they are dirt cheap.

Unacceptable

legendary

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Quote from: drewage on May 29, 2014, 12:53:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoGuy on May 29, 2014, 09:41:00 AM

BA better get a move on, it's getting real now.

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ASICMINER has said it will order the equivalent of 30,000 TH/s of wafers each month. Furthermore, the Avalon fourth-generation 28nm chip is set to tapeout soon and AntMiner’s S3 chips are projected to be out this July.

Beijing-Shenzhen company HashRatio actually has the first successful implementation of ASICMINER’s third-generation ‘Friedcat’ (烤猫) 40nm chip in a 768 GH/s unit and are ready to produce them in volume right away, without the need to take pre-orders.

Taken from: http://www.coindesk.com/private-china-meeting-bitcoin-mining-industry-leaders/

If this is accurate and ASICMINER alone is going to be producing 30 PH of new hashing machines a month it's past time to get out of the mining game. They would nearly double the current hashrate in two months. No matter how many machines are withdrawn from hashing difficulty is going to go supernova.

I saw this coming 2 months ago,I've since sold ALL my BTC mining rigs Cry

.13 per kwh,with 2300 watts was eating about 70% of my earnings & will continue to eat more every diff change Roll Eyes

To quote from Star Wars,"Altcoins,your my only hope!!" Cheesy

Good luck folks!!! My the Hash be with you!!!!!!!! Wink

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