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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 170. (Read 787050 times)

sr. member
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shipped yet?  Roll Eyes
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Damn you have watched too many conspiracy theory movies chap.
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Lol, you think any customer considers any company they purchase something from a friend? Especially after long delay? Don't think so, customers will always be silent if everything is ok, but will be yelling out loud if things isn't going as planned, i worked with many customers myself before. There is never a 100% happy customer, this isn't like i want color is wrong etc etc.
I bought a miner from them myself and got burned but i don't go crying all over the any possible placed, because i know it was a risk. If you are not prepared for a risk do not invest in to bitcoin. Same as Forex actually. Tomorrow bitcoin costs 1 cent, who are you going to blame and ask money for back? Satoshi? lol

Shill recently created acct lol .. What's next? Tell us to sing this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

If you put money in stocks, its an investment, there is risk
If you put money in forex, its an investment, there is risk
If you put money in options, derivatives, its an investment, there is risk
If you put money in bitcoins, its an investment, there is risk
...

Buying a product is not an investment. Just like putting money in bank is not an investment.

EDIT: forgot the mandatory msg to any shill:
hero member
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I smell some scam here.
BA delay shipping many times with many reason.

I have a lession that DON'T WORK WITH CHINESE. Because they will f**k your ass

The guy calling the shots appears to be a Romanian living in the UK.

What do you mean? Could you explain, please? I like in UK so maybe I could chase something up?


A lot of the investigatory and trolling posts dealing with this have been deleted/covered up here in this thread.  Especially those from our favorite/not-so-favorite BitcoinTalk Troll Phinnaeus Gage prior to his exile from the forums.

Black Arrow is essentially run by Alex Sovu of Romania also going by the alias Alex Berk and has a few "businesses" in his name.
There are a few archiving sites out there that show more history and captured the posts that were deleted here.  Just do a search for Black Arrow, Alex Sovu and Alex Berk and you'll find some interesting reading.  Let's just say that BFL isn't the only Mining Hardware company out there run by some unsavory people with questionable pasts.  Note unlike PG, I'm not picking on Matt (bobsag3) because he's been a pretty standup guy and just seems to be caught in the middle of an unfortunate situation.  For all we know, he may not have even met up with Alex or known his true history.

This post will most likely be deleted in short order, because if there's one thing Black Arrow is actually quick and attentive at with this forum, is deleting posts that reveal their secrets.  50 posts requesting an update?  Nothing for days.  1 post mentioning Alex Sovu?  Deleted in a few minutes.  We'll see how long this one lasts...
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Breaking News!

Delay Train passenger suspects he's getting railroaded.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qi0voHU1wak/UiE0CjSXbvI/AAAAAAAAAuI/8bERkYHsyAg/s320/Equipment+Trouble.png

That's funny. But still...I dodged this drama by 1 foot. Hope you guys get your products or your money back. 
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"The whole thing was always about money and there is no friend here for customers, but customers are still our friends" Smiley

Yep, that about sums it up!  We are their friends because we've given them a huge amount of money and we don't have a friend in them because they're not going to ship us any hardware.

These weekly updates are really getting to me now.  I wonder what amazing delay story they will come up with this time.

Time to find out exactly where the owner of this operation is living and if it's not China then we start action together.

The last payment I made for my compensation PSUs was to a bank account in the UK.

Lol, you think any customer considers any company they purchase something from a friend? Especially after long delay? Don't think so, customers will always be silent if everything is ok, but will be yelling out loud if things isn't going as planned, i worked with many customers myself before. There is never a 100% happy customer, this isn't like i want color is wrong etc etc.
I bought a miner from them myself and got burned but i don't go crying all over the any possible placed, because i know it was a risk. If you are not prepared for a risk do not invest in to bitcoin. Same as Forex actually. Tomorrow bitcoin costs 1 cent, who are you going to blame and ask money for back? Satoshi? lol
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Geek
I posted a while ago regarding the ownership of BlackArrow but BlackArrow removed it due to not liking me posting public Documents on here.

legendary
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Value will be measured in sats
I smell some scam here.
BA delay shipping many times with many reason.

I have a lession that DON'T WORK WITH CHINESE. Because they will f**k your ass

Not all sheeps are black. what about bitmain and dragon miners? they are chinese.

Well, at least they are better than BA. BA director isn't chinese btw.

My understanding is the BA is run by a bunch of Europeans...
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Wow, blame the Chinese!  Thats a bit rich. Guess it just takes some cash to let the ancient hatreds and bigotry loose.  Even if their reps are ALL assholes i don't believe that is justification to condemn the entire group of them.

Steve
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I smell some scam here.
BA delay shipping many times with many reason.

I have a lession that DON'T WORK WITH CHINESE. Because they will f**k your ass

Not all sheeps are black. what about bitmain and dragon miners? they are chinese.

Well, at least they are better than BA. BA director isn't chinese btw.
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I smell some scam here.
BA delay shipping many times with many reason.

I have a lession that DON'T WORK WITH CHINESE. Because they will f**k your ass
sr. member
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http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/page-111#entry6863
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The whole thing was always about money and there is no friend here for customers, but customers are still our friends Smiley

Not going to get any friends nor customers in near future.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/page-111#entry6868
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It seems pretty obvious that you are guessing, please do not try to lure out information by finishing type assumptions and insinuations.
 
Just wait for next weekly update and you will have information you need. Thank you.
 
Regards.

Not sure why they want to pull such a stunt that looks like a delay tactics when customers are worried and would like some reassurance.
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In such case I have got a bad feeling that it all may turn into HashFast. With the difference that there is no way you can proceed with any disputes. That's what happenes when you order something from company on the other side of the globe in the country which is legally unreachable...

I bet Bobsag is sweating at this point, he's on the hook being US based.
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better everyday ♥
So I'm just spitballing out here, but neither X-1s nor X-3s are shipping this month.

BA, care to comment on the X-3 backplane issue or whether the X-1 cases have finally arrived.

Are we realistically looking at July, or is June still a possibility?  You've already missed like 5 ship dates, you might as well come clean with us.
sr. member
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LOL Sylvia is obviously BAs version of Apples Siri !  Ask her a question and you'll most likely get useless information back!

next time ask for Sylvia's Mother, she's the one who is usually home  Cheesy
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above post


I got exactly the same copy paste reply back in February.

Good luck
sr. member
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Well they have shipped minions so they have shipped something.
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Don't lie, you know damn well you CANNOT get a refund  Tongue

Didn't you get a refund?

No, i am still awaiting my refund from miner source. I also have an order in through black arrow. Didn't ask for a refund for that one as it is a bit more complicated and not as much. Not worth dealing with that. The order from minersource was much larger for me and more important i get a refund for that, which i am still awaiting. A few emails between us but i am still without a refund  Embarrassed
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Don't lie, you know damn well you CANNOT get a refund  Tongue

Didn't you get a refund?
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Damn!!! So angry with both BFL & BA that I slipped up Smiley SOZ !

Easy mistake to make... they're so similar Wink
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