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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 245. (Read 787053 times)

newbie
Activity: 7
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Interested. I have 3 Lancelots to trade in.  BlackArrow can be trusted. Feb is a long way off though.
I want to buy your microarrays, how to get technical support, I am also in Shenzhen, there are contact details tired fine way? My QQ: 33007500

You Want to buy from BA ? Im sure there sale's team would be more than happy to help !
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Interested. I have 3 Lancelots to trade in.  BlackArrow can be trusted. Feb is a long way off though.
I want to buy your microarrays, how to get technical support, I am also in Shenzhen, there are contact details tired fine way? My QQ: 33007500
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
News/Updates can be found here:
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

And for those people that cannot be satisfied by this:
http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/anger.html

 Wink


I have another update that I was informed of:

The minion has passed the DRC checks. Mask manufacturing has begun. (This was as of last night)

For us laymen, does that mean they are on, ahead, or behind schedule?

It means the tapeout was successful and the next stage has begun. Basically, on schedule. Building the mask, as I understand it, is the most time consuming part of the process from here out. Once it's built, tested, and if necessary revised, they can make Minions until they run out of money or interest.

It unfortunately says nothing about the PCB's, SMT lines, or firmware. But the ASICS appear to (finally) be on track.

Anyone want to bet on whether Technobit has a working unit before BlackArrow using the Minion chip? They beat Bitmine...

Firmware is being worked on (Im not sure if Kano can comment on that or not, but I know hes been working with them at least on Cgminer). PCBs for the X1 and X3 have gone thru at least 2 revisions, so still being worked on.

Not sure about technobit... He never reached out to me for chips, and as far as I know did not purchase any from BA.

I thought I had seen him mention that he was working on a Minion based board. I know that there is a Wasp variant being worked on.

I just found it rather amusing that Martin beat Bitmine to the punch with their product. And from the reviews, it works good.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
How can you see what difficulty you're mining at in elugius?

3rd line in cgminer "connected to [...] at diff 64 as user [...]

Also, from time to time you'll see "pool difficulty changed to X" in your accepted shares list.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Does anyone know how much the "3rd party fees" will amount to when getting a refund from minersource?
Is it like 100$ or something?

I am not speaking on behalf of MS or anyone other than myself, but, I would think that:

If you paid in BTC and getting a BTC refund, 3rd party should be zero or just the BTC transaction fees. But if there is a bit of conversion to/from fiat, then those costs would be the 3rd party costs.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Does anyone know how much the "3rd party fees" will amount to when getting a refund from minersource?
Is it like 100$ or something?
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Looks good
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Owner, Minersource.net
News/Updates can be found here:
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

And for those people that cannot be satisfied by this:
http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/anger.html

 Wink


I have another update that I was informed of:

The minion has passed the DRC checks. Mask manufacturing has begun. (This was as of last night)

For us laymen, does that mean they are on, ahead, or behind schedule?

It means the tapeout was successful and the next stage has begun. Basically, on schedule. Building the mask, as I understand it, is the most time consuming part of the process from here out. Once it's built, tested, and if necessary revised, they can make Minions until they run out of money or interest.

It unfortunately says nothing about the PCB's, SMT lines, or firmware. But the ASICS appear to (finally) be on track.

Anyone want to bet on whether Technobit has a working unit before BlackArrow using the Minion chip? They beat Bitmine...

Firmware is being worked on (Im not sure if Kano can comment on that or not, but I know hes been working with them at least on Cgminer). PCBs for the X1 and X3 have gone thru at least 2 revisions, so still being worked on.

Not sure about technobit... He never reached out to me for chips, and as far as I know did not purchase any from BA.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Didnt get any response from Matt at [email protected]
He said the refund will be sent on Monday 24-02
But until now, nothing happens. Huh
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
Well I'll probably be using Eligius and there's no option for adjusting difficulty. The internet at the apartment is pretty shitty (free, included in rent) so I don't wanna run into any troubles there.

Thanks guys Smiley

While the math is rather intensive, the bandwidth isn't. I can't recall where I saw the post, but someone had calculated that you could run close to ten TH/S on a 56k modem without ever really pushing it's limits. About the worst broadband available wouldn't be bothered by that.

I mine at Eligius, and the vardiff works well. I do occasionally have a noisy connection, and it will drop me down to diff 32 for a few minutes, but mostly it feeds at 64, and with almost no hiccups. When a block is found, I might get a reject or two, and that's it. I don't know where Eligius is physically hosted, but I'm pretty sure it's not anywhere close to Mountain Home, ID. (though it could be in Boise, conceivably. There's a lot of high tech there). Running at the speeds you're talking, I would imagine it'll set your diff around 256, so bandwidth should never be an issue.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
News/Updates can be found here:
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

And for those people that cannot be satisfied by this:
http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/anger.html

 Wink


I have another update that I was informed of:

The minion has passed the DRC checks. Mask manufacturing has begun. (This was as of last night)

For us laymen, does that mean they are on, ahead, or behind schedule?

It means the tapeout was successful and the next stage has begun. Basically, on schedule. Building the mask, as I understand it, is the most time consuming part of the process from here out. Once it's built, tested, and if necessary revised, they can make Minions until they run out of money or interest.

It unfortunately says nothing about the PCB's, SMT lines, or firmware. But the ASICS appear to (finally) be on track.

Anyone want to bet on whether Technobit has a working unit before BlackArrow using the Minion chip? They beat Bitmine...
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Thanks Mr. Teal.

Only .3 BTC till my next antminer....
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
I bet lots of folks are going to start bumping up against how much electricity they have easily available. How many S1 's can be run off a typical 120 15 A circuit?  5 or 6?

I had 6 Chilis along with some network gear and it was right at the limit of tripping the circuit in my basement.
Depends if you overclock them, but 4 would probably ok if nothing else is on the circuit. If you do OC the units up to 400MHz, 3.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Owner, Minersource.net
Tell ya what, if any of minersource customers have an issue due to residential outlets and distance to the 2 separate units, We will throw in a 100ft Ethernet cable to help.

Thats nice to hear, and nice to see a proactive approach to this issue, I would like to be put on the list to receive one with my order.

Yes, same here.

Please shoot an email to [email protected] with your order numbers, and asking to get the cable. I will make sure they get added to your orders.

And yes, the X3 will for sure be coming as 2 separate units, that has been confirmed.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
I bet lots of folks are going to start bumping up against how much electricity they have easily available. How many S1 's can be run off a typical 120 15 A circuit?  5 or 6?

I had 6 Chilis along with some network gear and it was right at the limit of tripping the circuit in my basement.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Tell ya what, if any of minersource customers have an issue due to residential outlets and distance to the 2 separate units, We will throw in a 100ft Ethernet cable to help.
full member
Activity: 158
Merit: 100
Also does anyone know at what point internet speed can become a bottleneck? How much bandwidth is gonna be used at 2TH/s?

Never really, as long as the pool is properly controlling the work diff.

Art
full member
Activity: 158
Merit: 100
That's gonna be a problem since they need to be next to a router to work, right? I'm trying to think how I can have the two machines near a router, but plugged into different circuits...

Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GFYHPG/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They can be configured as an adapter. Plug you Ethernet cable to it, and your standalone miner is now connected to your router, no need for cables.

If you have more than one miner at that location, use a cheap hub or switch. Connect this gizmo to one port on your hub, all your miners to other ports.

I use this to run my cubes and blades in a room that had no Ethernet ports, but was otherwise unused.

Cheers

Art
Thanks for the recommendation, but I think I'll just go with a long ethernet cable.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Cat5e-Ethernet-Patch-Cable/dp/B001W28L2Y/

I didn't realize how cheap they had gotten since I last looked.
I'm gonna wait til it gets closer to the shipping date before I buy though. Need to figure out if I should go with the 25 or 50 feet option.

Yeah, I did that initially with some long cables I already had, but the wife revolted. She was not happy at cables snaking all over the place. Good luck with that.

Cheers

Art
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Also does anyone know at what point internet speed can become a bottleneck? How much bandwidth is gonna be used at 2TH/s?
It's a function of the pool difficulty setting, higher diff less bandwidth.
full member
Activity: 158
Merit: 100
That's gonna be a problem since they need to be next to a router to work, right? I'm trying to think how I can have the two machines near a router, but plugged into different circuits...

Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GFYHPG/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They can be configured as an adapter. Plug you Ethernet cable to it, and your standalone miner is now connected to your router, no need for cables.

If you have more than one miner at that location, use a cheap hub or switch. Connect this gizmo to one port on your hub, all your miners to other ports.

I use this to run my cubes and blades in a room that had no Ethernet ports, but was otherwise unused.

Cheers

Art
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