Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 248. (Read 787122 times)

Guys, let's get serious... there is a > 90% probability in my opinion that we will see additional delays. These guys are not pros like the KNC/OrSoc team and the chance of them being able to get everything right on the first try is quite small. Not zero mind you, they might get lucky... Sorry to be such a downer here but if you honestly believe they will deliver on April 30/May 1st you're likely to suffer another disappointment.

The good news is that by that time we've all probably moved on to the acceptance phase so this will not come as a shock anymore... two months will work wonders, you'll see!  

Glad tapeout has been announced. Whats the next thing we can moan about whilst we wait 2 months?

Is this where BA announce on a weekly basis that everything is on track for May delivery and a week before May, we get told about a delay?

Apart from actually posting pictures, its a waiting game now, just 2 solid months before a fully fledged forum riot happens if BA anounce another delay or total failure.

It can vary alot based on the chip complexity, but that could be about average.

So average time from tapeout to final chips in hand (as long as there are no problems) is around 2 months?

Thank you so much!   

Great news and looking forward to the finished design of the miner. 

Nice!

Congratulations!

Us little guys fund the the ASIC R&D and we might get thrown a bone with a device that might achieve ROI through the influx of money raising the value of BTC. Once the ASIC production line is up the costs to produce more ASICs for a large scale mining operation are fractional of the first run costs. I wondered why so much emphasis is on power efficiently when it's a small operating percentage to the costs of operating a mining device but it's importance rises if the device cost is minimal and your intent is to employ a lot as is the case in these large mining operations. Unfortunately the device you invest in the development of ultimately competes against you. The only way around this is for the manufacturers to agree not to compete with the folks who fund their business and us to not fund those who do.

In this case the logical "bone" to accommodate for the delay is to double the number of ASICs in the device's to compensate for the increased difficulty at release resulting from the delay. The additional ASICs are probably the most cost effective compromise for missing the target date for which orders were given.

One could just buy AM1 shares and join the party but it would be nice to see bitcoin which was made for the people remain with the people... as long as the people are us miners.

Think about what I said though, someone out there somewhere is deploying 50% of the networks total hashing power, every month!

And you can bet it isn't us little guys! Mining is a really bad investment right now..

Miners IMHO are all about ASIC cost efficiency. The supporting systems are a significantly lesser concern. It would be nice to have a thread dedicated to comparing proposed ASICs with forecast production dates so one can try and interpolate ROI of a given device.

BitFury 2nd Gen. But no idea when. Supposedly soon though.