Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 255. (Read 787053 times)

That's when I got out of the army and started college.  Those two places were the ruin of me, along with high school, the Catholic church, and my childhood.

BTW, is that why you're a Senior Member?

Shows my age Was pretty common in the late 70's.

Dude, just give him his money back.

Yes!  Outstanding technical jargon.  I believe this is the first use of this word other than by my own self that I have ever seen.

I was going to use it in my brainwallet, but now that it's appeared in print, it will be all over the rainbow tables.

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Im literally in the middle of deploying our new help desk software (going to have actual tickets now, and everything back that we lost from the old site, the database has been taking much longer so we could also pull along the ticket system). Once we have that in place and integrated, all emails will now be auto created into tickets, and assigned to our new CS reps. Within the next month things should get much smoother, and with that much better comunication channels.

I too am attempting to get a refund on R17 from Bobsag3. I sure he'll get to it, with all the questions about orders here and all the people wanting refunds for R17, the guy's head must be spinning. I'm not gonna be a jerk about it just yet.

This is good to know. I don't understand why it is so hard to send out a mass email. I pulled out (or am trying to pull out) of R17 with a refund to my shares mostly because I don't trust that the interests of the customers are a priority for Bobsag3. I was unaware of the facebook page, and although I despise facebook, I will keep an eye out there. It's so much better and easier to change a web page than post on facebook that I don't understand why he's gone that way. At any rate, I still have a BA hardware order from minersource that I have not asked to cancel, but I think it is pretty bad that aside from this forum and facebook there has been no notification of the delay. Emails are selectively replied to: I asked a pre-sales question and was answered almost immediately, but a post sales question has been ignored. Minersource found the time to add new products to the web page, but has not found the time to send out an email, post about delays on that webpage, or import/convert the database.

They've begun to post updates on their facebook page, and posted that in the coming weeks they would have emails being sent out. These updates on facebook began on Feb 12th, 72 hours after Feb 9th.



https://www.facebook.com/minersource

Bobsag most likely will not respond to any delay notices, because you already know of the delay...
I agree, that you would like something from him...  just hang tight, he does deliver at the end of the day.
i've sent him some emails in which he has not responded, at the end of the day, i found my answers else where.

Better get set for some reading time and catch up on the thread. Minions won't ship until May.

blackarrow: could you please give an estimate on when minion chip orders will ship, if ordered right now? Will the 20 Feb batch fulfill all existing orders?

Please post updated docs when available, incl. the FCBGA pin assignment (if I haven't missed that in the preliminary doc).

Well, perhaps by saying you're grenade fishing.... LoL.

Was mostly joking there. PG goes overboard, but has often exposed some pretty elaborate scams. I find him entertaining, though I would not want to be in his crosshairs. FWIW I don't think BA is a scam, but I also have no skin in this. Minersource and DMZ are definitely not scams, whatever the past of their respective officers.

I think the community needs crusaders like Bruno, but we also need to have our personal bullshit detectors set on max at all times. Regardless of desire and motive. I take a middle line on practically everything here. I've been dead wrong a couple of times, on the money once, and the rest kinda held to the middle. Bitcoin ASIC companies tend to not have their shit wired. That is my starting assumption with all of them. So far the only exception has been Bitmain, which I initially thought was a scam.

sure, no problem, TSMC have a good number of fab houses, and yes, I replied to Biomech without seeing that globalfoundries post.

However I do think I know a bit about what i'm talking about, it's interesting, and as such, i enjoy reading up on tech (not limited to discussion forums) - but please don't think i'm just trolling, as my username states, I can be a bit of an antagonist at times, and i'm not saying that i'm immune to being wrong, and i'm happy to admit, when i'm wrong... but I still have issues with any type of pre-order, because i have been stung in the past and I do a lot of :facepalm: seeing posts regarding pre-orders... anyway, i'm interested in this thread because when the rigs are shipped, I want to know how they perform and the customer experience. I'll be keen to get a black arrow rig when I can get one (in stock). the problems you are all experiencing in the order process are not new problems, moreover, they are recurring problems -  a lot of this industry is based on trust, and with trust, often comes panic. It's good to get the facts on an issue, and people's minds can be put to rest.

anyway, i'm rambling now... Black Arrow have a good future offering and i'll be glad to be part of it, if and when I think it's worthwhile to do so.

best,

R

Wasn't me, though I did see that after I posted the above.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

But about pg, I am not sure if it is considered trolling under the textbook definition, but a "crusade" set on making BA look bad based on incredibly flimsy findings certainly doesn't help anyone.

BlackArrow had asked earlier that some people contact Verisilicon. I would assume that prior to doing that, he/she/they/it would have contacted Verisilicon and said "some fuckstains will be contacting you. This is what you can reveal without us getting butthurt" or something to that effect. What was addressed in the reply was not proprietary information, as BlackArrow has stated a relationship with Verisilicon since they first announced the project. Confirmations of this sort are not unheard of. More often it relates to "established" press people, but the internets have changed that paradigm beyond recognition, so that does not trouble me.

On a side note, Phinneas Gage is not trolling. Trolling is dragging a baited line behind a boat. PG is dynamite fishing.

Do you have any idea about what you're talking about.

Sorry if that sounds rude but literally a few posts before you someone confirmed the chips will be made by global foundries.

And just because 20nm exists doesn't mean the larger process sizes are useless. IIRC tsmc only made like 25% of their revenue from 28nm and the rest from larger sizes. Also the advantages of 20nm may not be significant enough to justify the nre costs.

possibly, but TSMC are currently putting full endeavour into 20nm (2 fab houses) and according to news, are opening another 2 fab houses in march.. doesn't leave much space to fab old tech? I may be wrong but i don't see why they would be making 28nm, when they have facility to produce 20nm... I'd reckon they'd be more focussed on doing the new tech, and progressing to 14nm... thoughts?


ADD: may I just also say, i'm glad you all got the clarity sorted, i'm sure your rigs will be the dugs baws. 

3 days after refund request from MS, no response.

oh well.

i guess it's as good as gone...or waiting until the shit arrives.