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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 262. (Read 787053 times)

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this is all beginning to look like a massive FRAUD

'some of us are in europe, some of us are not, but nahnahnahnahnah nah, we're not telling you.'

stinks of fraud to me.

And the guy who's been bringing this to light keeps getting his posts deleted from this thread, sans a comment from said deleter to address ANY concerns his investomers have, in spite of it was them who put Black Arrow where they supposedly are now--flush with bitcoins.

Make no mistake, it's Alex Sovu, a convicted felon, who's behind Black Arrow, putting in place layers, read resellers, between said entity and their/his investomers, with the resellers conducting the sales, including their very own Rival downunder in the land of OZ.

My family and I (a proper group buy) were looking in november/december last year which equipment to pre-order. to upgrade our garage space...
Black Arrow website wasn't long on the screen before we just looked at each other, and shook our heads.

just saying.
legendary
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Remember Cablepair!!!

now he's namedropping.

lol.
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This is what happens when a company decides not to be public; people do their own digging. And whether or not some stuff is true or some stuff is false will fall on deaf ears because y'all chose to be as private and secretive as possible.

What made them lose your trust? Giving updates about delays? You ordered from a private company and because they had delays you want them to transform into a public company?

They have responded to nearly all of the questions (most retarded/unhelpful like yours) in this thread so I don't know how that makes them as secretive as possible.


I am almost starting to think this is just a PG alt account
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Not all of us are in Europe. I can't say who is and who isn't. But yes I am in Europe at the moment.
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Well TinkerTom mainly explained it. With the initial plans we had taken into account that everybody, or almost everybody, would be away. This was before the redesigning of the chips to achieve the better power efficiency. Because the redesign was not planned it did not fit into the schedule with the Chinese New Year. So the Chinese New Year wasn't supposed to affect us, but it did with the changes.
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Well I haven't had time to read the entire thread here, so forgive me if I'm wrong. Is your concern about the Chinese New Years or is it about something different?
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It may not look that way to you but I actually do my very best to get to the bottom of things, and get as much information as possible. However like I have said before, not everything can be released and that is not up to me. If there are people having problems with orders, shipping and other tickets I can look into what is happening there and why it hasn't been resolved yet. 
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I'm not the new PR representative. I've been very busy the past while, but now I have finally found some extra time for the bitcointalk forum.


Why even bother? You haven't answered a single question on the other forum, so why would you come over here?

"Looking into it", "I'll ask about that"," Update soon". Just stop. You're just making everyone more pissed with the bullshit "answers and updates".

If it's not pictures of product or official announcements that contain actual information, don't post!

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You can have Matt confirm who I am. Or look at the ecointalk forum if you would like to check.
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Lol, quick, everyone change their signature file to read "Black Arrow Support" and you can all be black arrow people too!  Don't forget to give him your credit card ##
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I'm not the new PR representative. I've been very busy the past while, but now I have finally found some extra time for the bitcointalk forum.
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Please send me a PM and I'll do the best I can to help you. We are very sorry for the inconvenience and the long response times we have at the moment.
Lol, seriously? When are you not sorry about the long response times? Why don't you just publicly answer the question?
And there's no way you're the new "press officer" cuz you've been on their forums for months now.

My interpretation of their original 'CNY won't impact our delivery date' was that they had never planned to work during CNY, but had capacity before and after to assemble the units and make their date. Obviously with everything else going out the window that did too. So it (according to my theory) isn't that they were originally going to work through CNY, but that they had originally accounted for it in their project plan.

But who knows, just a guess.
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Please send me a PM and I'll do the best I can to help you. We are very sorry for the inconvenience and the long response times we have at the moment.
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So, blackarrow has been online multiple times since I sent my PM (twice) and since I've posted here multiple times too. So much for better communication.

BA:
You guys said that you would not be affected by the CNY, care to comment why "most of the staff" had off when you previously said it wouldn't affect you guys?


Because they lied? Please do not act surprised... I mean these guys are so shady that we don't even know who is running this so called enterprise. Makes me wonder what I was thinking when I ordered from them (serious lapse in judgement on my part obviously).
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Fun Facts:

Number of butthurt people who wanted refunds from BFL for 1+ year delays: 10,000

Number of people who took legal action against BFL for the delays and won: 0

Number of those butthurt people who actually lost money (in terms of USD): 0

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-miner-manufacturer-alleges-fraud-negligence/

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One of the world’s most mysterious Bitcoin-related companies is now facing its first civil lawsuit in a United States federal court, with many more likely on the way.

 Wink
How is this related? BFL literally stole this guys money. This has nothing to do with a delayed shipment.

And again if you want a refund contact BA directly through their site and they will likely be able to refund you (especially if you complain hard enough)
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Fun Facts:

Number of butthurt people who wanted refunds from BFL for 1+ year delays: 10,000

Number of people who took legal action against BFL for the delays and won: 0

Number of those butthurt people who actually lost money (in terms of USD): 0

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-miner-manufacturer-alleges-fraud-negligence/

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One of the world’s most mysterious Bitcoin-related companies is now facing its first civil lawsuit in a United States federal court, with many more likely on the way.

 Wink
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This is also true but I am just trying to relay the info from BA for those who missed it due to the spam/rage/trolls.

I don't know the exact details on how tapeout was paid for but based on the last comment I would guess they did use at least some of the preorder funds to pay for it. Some clarification on this would be nice as I too remember something about r&d being covered by their own funds.

I still wouldn't be surprised if BA finds that they do have enough cash on hand and decide to give out refunds. Would definitely make a few people happy.

jimmothy, what kind of affiliation do you have with BA?

Bought an x-1. Happily waiting for the hardware I agreed to buy. But just as disappointed with the delays as anyone.

legendary
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Bought an x-1. Happily waiting for the hardware I agreed to buy. But just as disappointed with the delays as anyone.
That explains your patience.

Please excuse me for not having sympathy for those smart enough to fork over several thousand usd worth of irreversible money without even reading the deal they are agreeing to.

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Bought an x-1. Happily waiting for the hardware I agreed to buy. But just as disappointed with the delays as anyone.
That explains your patience.

Please excuse me for not having sympathy for those smart enough to fork over several thousand usd worth of irreversible money without even reading the deal they are agreeing to.
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This is also true but I am just trying to relay the info from BA for those who missed it due to the spam/rage/trolls.

I don't know the exact details on how tapeout was paid for but based on the last comment I would guess they did use at least some of the preorder funds to pay for it. Some clarification on this would be nice as I too remember something about r&d being covered by their own funds.

I still wouldn't be surprised if BA finds that they do have enough cash on hand and decide to give out refunds. Would definitely make a few people happy.

jimmothy, what kind of affiliation do you have with BA?

Bought an x-1. Happily waiting for the hardware I agreed to buy. But just as disappointed with the delays as anyone.
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