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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 274. (Read 787053 times)

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There is so much butthurt showing in this thread, there should be a NSFW label in the topic.
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Ermm...

Is there a point here? Can we get to it already?
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...snip the Beverly and Riker photo... That episode really bothered me...

lol. I have no idea what that means.

Also, your friends you're trying to help haven't contacted me. Please find a ticket number so I can help the situation.

Seriously? Here's a clue: Phinnaeus, you're really grasping at straws now, arent you?

They're not really friends, for I didn't know about them till they contacted me. I have blasted them both your two PMs. Ain't have a clue as to why there's been no contact.

I'm also surprised that they haven't thanked me for running amok.

Any chance there's another scam layer here and the "two customers" who knew your history from other threads (the BFL Josh ones are still my favorite btw) were actually an ASIC competitor who just wanted to stir the pot while BA was down and out?  I've seen worst tactics in this industry. Wink
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lol. I have no idea what that means.

Also, your friends you're trying to help haven't contacted me. Please find a ticket number so I can help the situation.
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Color me more confused: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732

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bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum!

Something like the following comes to mind when I read professional colocation hosting facility:



Definitely not something like...



They look the same. Take out the fancy servers from the top picture and take out the shelving from the bottom one and they're the same damn thing. Shelves come out, servers go in, bam instant data center.

Phinnaeus, you're really grasping at straws now, arent you?
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Color me more confused: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732

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bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum!

Something like the following comes to mind when I read professional colocation hosting facility:



Definitely not something like...



Now I'm not in this to defend anyone...  But imagine that second picture in an undisclosed location running offsite data.  Then imagine over a year to a year and a half, the transformation into the first picture.  Watched it happen with my own eyes and a fairly large amount of our equipment but plenty from other vendors.  It was nothing short of amazing because the first trip to that location one of the racks with storage we were installing under just a huge AC vent blowing on us with concrete floors (I brought a ski jacket as they recommended and had it and the hood on).  They said they were "remodeling" lol! 
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LOL!  Not going to lie add a early 80's red panel facade with ALVIN TRANSMISSIONS and well that was a bit nicer in that picture LOL!  There was a Stingray but it wasn't one color.  Had to rebuild from stud up.  And the day we had the 5 ton for the shop floor and 3 ton for the inside was the biggest gift from the heavens ever!  Wink  But anyway...

I do see what you are implicating and it seems off but I have purchased 4 Antminers from Bobsag over the last month.  Never lied about anything worked with me on the second 2.  Hell while he was BTC Miami we were trying to work a deal to buy another 6-10 but he did not have anymore in stock and CNY was starting.  Two were through BTC and two were through bankwire to Minersource.

My thing is he goes to the BTC conventions and is well known.  A simple check on the IP of the two posters would instantly tell you (of course Theymos or someone would have to do it).  This is why I go by Powell I am REALLY good at making forum names.

My only other thought is maybe worried for security issues for people who do live around the area that could possibly break in and know exactly what to take.  I mean that in all seriousness.  Googling what our shop use to say will bring up the new view from Sat. but OLD school view on street cam before we bought it LOL!  I know if someone wanted to come get in by the time they manage to get anything out the police or I would be there and the person(s) will more than likely be uhmm...  Depends who shows up first LOL!

There is something to ponder about almost every company on the forum.  It is very interesting needless to say.  I come from the car world (14 years almost now) from Mustangs, Camaros, Vetttes, Porsches and trucks...  Never seen it where every company has a sketchy story or a possible one.  Hell buying/selling WoW accounts for a few years some how now that I look back was less of a worry to deal with.  Sad
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I still don't understand where you are going with this PG. Are you trying to say that Bob and BA are scammers? Or just that he's lying about the location of where it's hosted?

Not taking a jab at you, just trying to understand what all the fuzz is about.
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Phinn,

Number 1. I respect you.

While I supported and carried on with you trying to expose the underhandedness of a very slimy company, I really am not comfortable with you calling Matt a liar.

Its a known fact he moved the data center to Colorado. As far as I know all people who have or had machines hosted with him at that time were notified of the move. At one time Matt had 3 Jupiters that belong to me hosted. I pay my bill every month and he provides a very reasonably priced hosting service.   

As for trust:

I have had hardware issues (KNC machines that lose a die or two are not uncommon amongst other problems) with 2 Jupiters, I had Matt send them to me so I could take care of them and overclock them if I like. No problem, he sent them to me at my request and is open to me sending them back to him. He still has 1 of my Jupiters in his facility and I have no reason to believe he will scam me in anyway. If he does, I will let you know but I dont think its going to happen.

We have an agreement. I pay him, my machine(s) is hosted. Simple.

Im not sure what picture you are trying to paint here and maybe I'm just dumb. But Chasing this hosting facility thing is just as off topic to this thread as my reply to you.

I do not wish a battle of wits with you as I'm sure I would lose that one. Its just bothersome watching someone I like (YOU!) beating on someone else I like (Matt).

As usual, no hard feelings.

Best of Luck,

R
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Holy shit dude...  You have to be kidding me I really do not understand your obsession on this topic is.

FYI with technology did you know you can remotely access any part of the datacenter you need to with a few clicks or CLI commands?  Anyone near by that is involved in the company can go there if there is something hazardous going on.  Why do you think actual large datacenters have barely filled NOC's on most shifts.  You have more security at points depending on what companies are involved LOL!

BTW our building for our shop is the exact same except I think we are probably a little larger because of the length of the shop.  If we didn't have the Porsches, Datsun, X275 car, Dyno, etc... I could set up actual 42U racks or Racks to set Antminers, etc. on and there would be 0000000 issues...  I don't know where you live but you can properly insulate and AC most buildings...  Here in Texas well that is a HUGE plus especially if cars are your hobby (hince why we built it).  Plus if Bob and the team wanted to I am fairly certain the front is just like ours and you can have a very nice office area up front.  We choose ours to be more of a hang out area but still get plenty of comments that its nicer than most houses in there.

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they're getting reputationally hammered and that no amount of page deletions is going to change that.

Since when was 3 nerds trolling a tread who haven't even purchased a product with BA considered "reputational hammering".

The only reputation being hammered is your own as you and PG which have proven to be extremely childish and in desperate need of attention.

Consider yourself ignored.
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Just got done with my meetings, decent amount to post/ update, but im regharging my stuff at my hotel room (im an idiot and forgot foreign adaptors) uploading some photos, and going over my notes. I will either post more info tonight (UK time) or tomorrow afternoon when I get back to denver (~5PM mst tomorrow).

Thanks for keeping us updated and ignoring the trolls.
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Just got done with my meetings, decent amount to post/ update, but im regharging my stuff at my hotel room (im an idiot and forgot foreign adaptors) uploading some photos, and going over my notes. I will either post more info tonight (UK time) or tomorrow afternoon when I get back to denver (~5PM mst tomorrow).

Forgot to mention, I have asked BA to purge the thread of the trolls, but to leave any questions or concerns untouched so we (being BA and the reseller teams) can go through and address as many as we can.
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Anarchy is not chaos.
On a not unrelated note, the complete lack of confidence in the transparency, accountability and ability to deliver has resulted in the spamming up of Ebay with Black Arrow pre-order sales. Talk about desperation as people hope to retrieve their money any way they can. Six months ago it was a mountain of Jalapenos, now it's a mountain of Prosperos.

At least there were real pictures of Jalapenos, people knew what they were supposedly going to get, the only thing consistent about the Prospero is... wait for it... the slogan, "This machine is designed to generate a steady revenue of Bitcoins for the owner."

Yeah right... hopefully they actually do appear and do generate some meaningful return for the people kind enough to take BA at their word and fund the Minion ASIC development by parting with their cash.

It's time for senior management to step up, take their foot out of their mouth and address their customers.

I just realized something!

Living on a lighted stage
Approaches the unreal
For those who think and feel
In touch with some reality
Beyond the gilded cage

Cast in this unlikely role
Ill-equipped to act
With insufficient tact
One must put up barriers
To keep oneself intact

[Chorus:]
Living in the limelight
The universal dream
For those who wish to seem
Those who wish to be
Must put aside the alienation
Get on with the fascination
The real relation
The underlying theme

Living in a fish eye lens
Caught in the camera eye
I have no heart to lie
I can't pretend a stranger
Is a long-awaited friend

All the world's indeed a stage
And we are merely players
Performers and portrayers
Each another's audience
Outside the gilded cage



Scene one in Act 3 served as a major turning
point in the Tempest particularly for the
coward-like character Prospero, who hides
behind his minion Ariel to...



"and the men who hold high places,
must be the ones to start,
to mold a new reality,
closer to the heart..."

I knew there was a reason I liked you! Anyone who quotes Rush can't be all bad.
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The limited information which didn't really qualify as answers at all from BA wasn't very persuasive so the level of outcry increased.
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Well .. if you look through all the shit that's been posted ... which takes quite awhile now due to the exorbitant amount of shit there is ... you will also find on topic posts: that the issue was announced, the 25% thing was stated, then more ongoing discussion about that was stated also, and that is happening about now.

So yeah really all that has happened is, there is information in those 20 pages about what is CURRENTLY happening, but you have to sift though all the shit to find it ... as you yourself clearly haven't succeeded in doing either ...
Only in the magic world of bitcoin and bitcointalk does a promise from an entity that has already broken promises is considered something that is currently happening.  No, what's currently happening is the same thing that's been happening from the start.  JUST TALK. 
@ernie-  if you are considering buying something with delivery promised for months away consider why anyone would send you anything that's worth a lot more then what you paid for it?  So you are hoping at best to get a miner that will be worth about what you paid for it and at worse will be worth a lot less.
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The limited information which didn't really qualify as answers at all from BA wasn't very persuasive so the level of outcry increased.
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Well .. if you look through all the shit that's been posted ... which takes quite awhile now due to the exorbitant amount of shit there is ... you will also find on topic posts: that the issue was announced, the 25% thing was stated, then more ongoing discussion about that was stated also, and that is happening about now.

So yeah really all that has happened is, there is information in those 20 pages about what is CURRENTLY happening, but you have to sift though all the shit to find it ... as you yourself clearly haven't succeeded in doing either ...


Kano, just so you know, your post counts as shit by your own yardstick as there isn't anything definitive to say other than people aren't happy with the 25% announcement they received by email. If there is, why did you cease to quote or paraphrase it? Maybe you just preferred critique. No matter, everything you said was shit.

So you can keep the general criticism and shit flowing out of your mouth if you like but you're not fooling anyone, the only thing you're saying is shit. The reason you don't know what's going on is that you've rocked up recently and you haven't been following what is going on. Sure, you might have read it, but you still can't really follow it by your own admission.

So cut the shit Kano, or you'll be wading through even more shit, half of it by your own making.


You funny Smiley

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4869584
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The limited information which didn't really qualify as answers at all from BA wasn't very persuasive so the level of outcry increased.
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Well .. if you look through all the shit that's been posted ... which takes quite awhile now due to the exorbitant amount of shit there is ... you will also find on topic posts: that the issue was announced, the 25% thing was stated, then more ongoing discussion about that was stated also, and that is happening about now.

So yeah really all that has happened is, there is information in those 20 pages about what is CURRENTLY happening, but you have to sift though all the shit to find it ... as you yourself clearly haven't succeeded in doing either ...
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Can someone from BlackArrow just delete the last 20 pages or so?
It's a pity when morons turn a thread about a product into a thread that's a piece of crap that isn't worth reading.

I have to agree.
I would also like to apologize for taking us ever further from the topic at hand. 
Frankly I let PG get under my skin after seeing page after page of nonsense.
This will be my last off topic post.
*edit: not apologizing to PG hes still an ass.
That's why there is an ignore button, works well.

I think 25% of this thread can be deleted.

I'm considering placing an order for one of these may delivery units, so I am trying to find info in this thread not flame wars.




D'OH...why didn't I think of that...much better now. Thanks
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Up the compensation to 50%, and this fiasco might not be a total loss. As it stands now, Im firmly with the mob holding a pitchfork and a torch.
legendary
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Can someone from BlackArrow just delete the last 20 pages or so?
It's a pity when morons turn a thread about a product into a thread that's a piece of crap that isn't worth reading.

+ 1 but until that happens just click on the "ignore" link,let the stupid cunt talk to himself and shortens the thread
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