Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 304. (Read 787066 times)
Only 5b? Sounds like a best case scenario... I'd pre-order more if I thought we'd only be at 5b by May.
So all orders ordered from Jan 1st, 2014 will be shipped around 1st of May... 
Wow, difficulty gonna be 5 billion by then....
Wow, difficulty gonna be 5 billion by then....
Sent my Reseller App to Matt...
Crossing my fingers, lol.
Crossing my fingers, lol.
Black Arrow LTD:
Could we please have an engineering update on the progress of the Minion ASIC? Thank you for your time.
Could we please have an engineering update on the progress of the Minion ASIC? Thank you for your time.
From BA:
" Dear Customers,
We have some updates:
The Minion:
We have our final specs for the Minion. Based on our library (we can only simulate the TT corner which is 0.85v @ 25C) and the power consumption is 0.6-0.65W/Ghash. We trust that underclocked and underpowered the Minion will achieve under 0.5W/ghash as promised.
This is not as good as our first simulations which were based only on Front End but this is where we need to stop. The time does not allow us to continue our effort towards seeking a lower power consumption.
We had to drop the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1.0Ghz in order to achieve this efficiency. However we've increased the number of cores so the Minion will hash at the speed promised.
We had met all the timings for 1.5Ghz but the efficiency was 0.8W/Ghash and this is not something we could have accepted.
The minion driver:
We have also published the minion driver and we're happy to announce that it is steadily mining into cgminer. We've made the driver open source:
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/driver-minion.c
Batch 1 closed:
We have closed batch 1. All orders paid in 2014 will be shipped around 1st of May. "
THANK YOU for releasing this driver for our review and eventual use!
This is just the driver for cgminer however - do you have any information on the chip control board itself? The preliminary datasheet has some good information but it's still lacking quite a bit of the details we'll need to develop our own boards. When can we expect to see design information for the control board itself?
Again- thanks for the driver!
Tried to order directly through BlackArrow because it seemed the logical thing to do at the time.
Boy was I wrong.
25 days making zero effort to resolve a payment, and only 8 hours to cancel an order. They did ironically link me a "how would you rate our service ?" survey to fill out, and I gave them 1/5 stars *rolls eyes*
Something about this enterprise doesn't seem entirely on the level based on this experience with their customer service.
Got a bad feeling about Black Arrow
Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.
Boy was I wrong.
25 days making zero effort to resolve a payment, and only 8 hours to cancel an order. They did ironically link me a "how would you rate our service ?" survey to fill out, and I gave them 1/5 stars *rolls eyes*
Something about this enterprise doesn't seem entirely on the level based on this experience with their customer service.
Got a bad feeling about Black Arrow
Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!
*sigh*
*sigh*
Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.
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ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10
Phew, so my lone X-1 paid on jan 3 will be shipped in march. I panicked when I saw that stuff about being delayed until May and subsequently emailed Matt asking for a cancellation and refund, hopefully he will ignore ithe request now.
I'd email him again and clarify. The first time I emailed him (question about payment) he responded very quickly. He didn't reply when I asked about the batch later, but I know he's probably swamped.
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ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10
Phew, so my lone X-1 paid on jan 3 will be shipped in march. I panicked when I saw that stuff about being delayed until May and subsequently emailed Matt asking for a cancellation and refund, hopefully he will ignore ithe request now.
Any tapeout news from Black Arrow would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Try their forum at ecointalk.net
Any tapeout news from Black Arrow would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!
*sigh*
*sigh*
Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.
Hmm,my BTC orders @ minersource went thru.........all 4 of them
Now,let see if they have delays too
I'm sure they will,it's all the "rage" nowadays 
Sorry bout your luck Xian
You got your Antminers to keep you company though 
Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!
*sigh*
*sigh*
Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.
Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!
*sigh*
*sigh*
i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
This happened to me too. I ordered on Dec 31, but the banks were closed, so I couldn't do the wire transfer until Jan 2, and now it says I'm in Batch 2?
You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.
I paid on Jan 2, so does this mean I can be in batch 1 as well?
EDIT: I just spotted this on minersource.net in the description for the X-1, so I think I'm OK if I'm reading this right (emphasis mine):
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ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10
Getting the cloud mining for the May batch seems to be a sure way to lose your money.
I contacted them a week ago for the March batch and they never replied back....
I contacted them a week ago for the March batch and they never replied back....
It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.
You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.
Well thanks for admitting it
It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.
You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.
It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.
i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.
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Batch 1 closed
Batch 1 has been closed.
All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.
https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.listBatch 1 has been closed.
All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.
That was posted 2 days after the cutoff date so it's kind of not fair. If it were me I would warn people in advance of cutoff dates even if only a few days in advance, rather than being retrospective. However I ordered from miniersource.net not BA, and their site clearly said batch 1 at the time, so that was the offer.
I placed two orders on the site on the first of January. When i was placing my orders minersource had said that they would be part of batch 1 round 2 that ships in March. Then a couple days later the BA website states the thing about batch two and sure enough my orders are now saying they are part of batch 2. It seems some what fraudulent to leave something up saying "orders place today will be part of batch 1 round 2" when orders placed that day were NOT part of batch 1 round 2.
It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.
i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.
Quote
Batch 1 closed
Batch 1 has been closed.
All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.
https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.listBatch 1 has been closed.
All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.
That was posted 2 days after the cutoff date so it's kind of not fair. If it were me I would warn people in advance of cutoff dates even if only a few days in advance, rather than being retrospective. However I ordered from miniersource.net not BA, and their site clearly said batch 1 at the time, so that was the offer.
I placed two orders on the site on the first of January. When i was placing my orders minersource had said that they would be part of batch 1 round 2 that ships in March. Then a couple days later the BA website states the thing about batch two and sure enough my orders are now saying they are part of batch 2. It seems some what fraudulent to leave something up saying "orders place today will be part of batch 1 round 2" when orders placed that day were NOT part of batch 1 round 2.
i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"
WTF? Have I just been shafted?
I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.
What's the significance of Round 2 Batch 1 vs Batch 2 Round 1?
Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.
I could be wrong, but I think the site just lists the current description for the item. I'd ask the bobsag, but I think if you ordered before the cutoff of 1/2 you should be on round 1.
I agree with this. I had noticed this on my orders as well, orders that were in early December. They all have the same description of the current item in the store. I didnt think much of it since that is what I thought was happening.
Not sure what you guys are looking at or where. I just checked my order at the old minersource and looks the same as it always did. No mention of delivery date,batch or round anywhere. That info only appeared on the order page when placing the order not on the finale invoice.
MinerSource.NET - Order #64x
Your order details are shown below.
Order Status: Awaiting Shipment
Order Date: 1st Dec 2013 @ 9:55 PM
Order Total: $xxxx.xx USD
Billing Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Shipping Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Order #64x Contained the Following Items:
This is on the new site - if I log in and look at my order under "Item" it says:
Black Arrow Prospero X-1 (100Gh/s)
## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available...
I'm pretty sure the table there is just pulling the item description from the regular item page because, well, why wouldn't it?
This is an order from december 26 (putting xmas money to good use
) so I'm pretty sure it's part of Batch 1 round 2, and the batch 2 notation in the description is just a quirk of the site. If you're concerned about it I'm sure bobsag can clear it up if you PM or email him, but I wouldn't be worried.
I have screenshots of the actual purchases I made in December on two separate occasions and they are batch 1 round 2 but when I look at them on the website it shows batch 2 round 1. I'm not concerned. As others have said the description is likely being pulled from the current product description and that explains the discrepancy in batch/round numbers.
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