Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 303.

Puppet

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Quote from: Adrians__ on January 11, 2014, 06:44:48 AM

Has there been any discussion about overclocking the X-3?

From the technical news they said they had to increase the number of cores to reach their efficiency target.
They lowered the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1Ghz.

I thought this would mean if I don´t care about the efficiency I should run it at 1.5Ghz with a stronger PSU. However Black Arrow software says this would not be possible.

Why not? Does it have to do with cooling?

I drew the same conclusion as you but with a few caveats: not only would you need to be able to supply the power (meaning not only the PSU, but also the PCBs and VRMs need to be handle it), you must also be able to get rid of the heat. Moreover, BA would have to provide ways to change voltage and clockspeed. If they say its not possible (didnt read that, but Ill take your word for it), Im guessing thats where the problem will lie.

Of course anyone designing their own PCB and just buying chips from BA might be able to leverage some of that headroom, though its probably not going to be a walk in the park.

Adrians__

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Has there been any discussion about overclocking the X-3?

From the technical news they said they had to increase the number of cores to reach their efficiency target.
They lowered the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1Ghz.

I thought this would mean if I don´t care about the efficiency I should run it at 1.5Ghz with a stronger PSU. However Black Arrow software says this would not be possible.

Why not? Does it have to do with cooling?

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This is not as good as our first simulations which were based only on Front End but this is where we need to stop. The time does not allow us to continue our effort towards seeking a lower power consumption.
We had to drop the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1.0Ghz in order to achieve this efficiency. However we've increased the number of cores so the Minion will hash at the speed promised.
We had met all the timings for 1.5Ghz but the efficiency was 0.8W/Ghash and this is not something we could have accepted.

btct22

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Hi Matt, could you say what was the cutoff date for payments was to get a Feb delivery order? Also the 5 days free hosting of the miners, does that start on the 24 Feb or before then? Can we specify pool info for the hosting mining?

Thank you!

BlackArrow Matt

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If you paid for it on November 30th, yes.

bitbar

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Hi,

I´m interested to buy a preorder 1Batch Prospero X1 - end February 2014 - offer PM

would listen also offers for Prospero X3

Biffa

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Quote from: Stedsm on January 10, 2014, 09:47:54 AM

Quote from: erk on January 10, 2014, 09:14:42 AM

Quote from: zurg on January 10, 2014, 08:39:51 AM

Quote from: n00dles0up on January 10, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

me thinks Matt needs to add a list of Authorized Resellers to the 1st post so people will find it easier to locate them and not get confused by whatever else is out there.

bitcointalk.org is not the Black Arrorw forums. This information can be found on their forums already http://ecointalk.net/forum/68-general-discussions/

but this is a Black Arrow hardware thread and I see nothing wrong with the suggestion. Particularly in a thread that's gone off topic many times before you seem like a real nit-pic

+1 in fact he is off topic promoting another forum in here.

tornie

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Quote from: n00dles0up on January 10, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

Hi

Thanks. I will contact them.

tornie

Stedsm

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Quote from: erk on January 10, 2014, 09:14:42 AM

Quote from: zurg on January 10, 2014, 08:39:51 AM

Quote from: n00dles0up on January 10, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

me thinks Matt needs to add a list of Authorized Resellers to the 1st post so people will find it easier to locate them and not get confused by whatever else is out there.

bitcointalk.org is not the Black Arrorw forums. This information can be found on their forums already http://ecointalk.net/forum/68-general-discussions/

but this is a Black Arrow hardware thread and I see nothing wrong with the suggestion. Particularly in a thread that's gone off topic many times before you seem like a real nit-pic

erk

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Quote from: zurg on January 10, 2014, 08:39:51 AM

Quote from: n00dles0up on January 10, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

me thinks Matt needs to add a list of Authorized Resellers to the 1st post so people will find it easier to locate them and not get confused by whatever else is out there.

bitcointalk.org is not the Black Arrorw forums. This information can be found on their forums already http://ecointalk.net/forum/68-general-discussions/

zurg

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Crypto Investor ;) @ Farmed Account Hunter

Quote from: n00dles0up on January 10, 2014, 08:32:21 AM

Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

me thinks Matt needs to add a list of Authorized Resellers to the 1st post so people will find it easier to locate them and not get confused by whatever else is out there.

n00dles0up

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Quote from: tornie on January 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

tornie, heres the confirmed official reseller in the UK. https://shop.logicethos.com/

and

Confirmed reseller in the US. https://minersource.net/

Both stores allow you to purchase 1

tornie

newbie

Activity: 6

Merit: 0

Hi.

This look very nice. I am new to this, so do I have to buy 10 p?
Is there any trusted shop I can order this in Europe, and then only 1?

Thanks and take care

TN

zurg

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Crypto Investor ;) @ Farmed Account Hunter

Quote from: erk on January 10, 2014, 06:26:38 AM

Some basic shopping carts wont let you place orders unless it's in stock, ie they can't handle payment for back orders.

Correct.
My shopping cart is the same way.
I just have to make sure in the description it's obvious to the people that it's a Pre-Order.

erk

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Some basic shopping carts wont let you place orders unless it's in stock, ie they can't handle payment for back orders.

Andrey

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Quote from: gmaxwell on January 10, 2014, 04:34:31 AM

I hope no one minds, but I tweaked the subject to reflect the current prices.

I also notice the website claims "in stock" ... this seems a bit deceptive to me.

Black Arrow said before that they had problems configuring the store software for accepting pre-orders thus only thing they came up with is adding this note to product page:

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This product will be available on 30 Apr 2014

gmaxwell

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I hope no one minds, but I tweaked the subject to reflect the current prices.

I also notice the website claims "in stock" ... this seems a bit deceptive to me.

Bryzki

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Anyone interested on taking my place on the que first batch of X3 50% paid on december 3, pm me and give me an offer i cannot refuse... Thanks.
Edit:
Thru escrows thanks..

arorts

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Hello,

If there's anyone with a Batch 1 spot for Hosted mining orders that don't feel will be able to pay or decided to go instead for actual shipped hardware, please let me know.
I'd like to take your spot in exchange for some BTC fee.

Please PM me to arrange details.

Thanks,
arorts

Kaega

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Quote from: DebitMe on January 09, 2014, 03:38:11 PM

Yea I was expecting 5 Billion by the end of Feb

lol. Hardware isn't shipping that quickly.

sirsmokesalot

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"ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10"

Glad to hear that. Now at least I am being told what I want to hear. I just hope they make good on it Wink

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