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Topic: Black Arrow R9-12 threads, DZ Miners Co-op. Plz move ?s and discussion here. - page 16. (Read 25175 times)

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Will R17x still be open once these are sold?
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BTC price will be computed on the day of the sale based on the bitpay rate.
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Just got the e-mail about the offer...very interesting

Same, but without knowing the btc amount I can't make a decision, I am not here for USD.
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Just got the e-mail about the offer...very interesting
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I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).

so we may be short 10 not 17 btc  correct?
The revenue page reflects the added BTC actually so you can't subtract 7 when figuring out the shortfall.


 It is why I asked as I was not quite sure about it.
Yeah I was answering, I'm pretty sure they put in the 7 to the numbers before giving out the first payment.
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'The right to privacy matters'
I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).

so we may be short 10 not 17 btc  correct?
The revenue page reflects the added BTC actually so you can't subtract 7 when figuring out the shortfall.


 It is why I asked as I was not quite sure about it.
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I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).

so we may be short 10 not 17 btc  correct?
The revenue page reflects the added BTC actually so you can't subtract 7 when figuring out the shortfall.
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Putting my shares where my mouth is, I put them up for sale here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-10-shares-in-dz-r9-12-mining-op-83-ghz-361134

If they sell, great.  If not I am ok with that too Smiley
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Ok, so that definately gets us closer but the hash rate is suffering still Sad  Hope you can clear it up with them.
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I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).

so we may be short 10 not 17 btc  correct?

yeah the 7BTC was in 9-12.

BTW im in china now.
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'The right to privacy matters'
I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).

so we may be short 10 not 17 btc  correct?
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My spoon is too big!
I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.

7 BTC was for r9-12 (it's a couple pages back, I think).
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I think they put in some btc .  but I forget if the btc added was for r9 to r12  or r5 -r6

 I think 7btc was placed in  just do not remember which set of rounds  was btc put in.  

this log jam has made me be less eager to drop coin for 10 shares on r17 since the same company may make the same shortfall.  on those 40gh shares.
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Here are the numbers from http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty and http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/. This is based on a Nov. 1 start date with full hash power.

Difficulty History date range                24 hour BTC         Total BTC for the period             Difficulty for date range
Nov 1 - 4                                           4.2968                         17.1872                              390,928,788

Nov 5 - 16                                         3.2876                         39.4512                              510,929,738

Nov 17 - 28                                       2.7560                         33.072                                609,482,680

Nov 29 - Dec 6                                   2.3745                        17.808                                 707,408,283



Expected BTC to date: 107.5184

Gross Revenue:       89.5411

Current short fall:        -17.9773

Just a quick run of the numbers that are not 100% accurate but are close.
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Absolutely agreed.  We need to be getting the hashing we paid for or this is nowhere near as profitable as it should be.

I also will stick by my offer in this thread, I will take $1850 for my 10 shares if anyone cares to buy them.

Thanks,
Paul
legendary
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 well since it seems like the r9-r12 wants to mine.  I go with that but the next question is we paid for 3.3th  we are not getting that  . we are getting 2.0th and bob is running a .5 th Jupiter to help bring us somewhat closer to 3.3th about 2.5th , but we have been 800gh short for a long time.

days in fact.  so if we stand pat and I go with the majority to stand pat.  what is our compensation  for the missing hash.


 1 day at 800gh is pretty decent piece of btc we are more like 8 to 10 days of that shortage.

more in fact and  that is over  5 coins.  I do not have a calculator on hand.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty       800 gh is .56btc a day  10 days is 5.6 btc   so what will be the comp for this?  

btw I have not charted the exact number .  but it a lot even if it is spread over 400 shares In my case it is 11/400 x 5.6 btc  

 that is a minimum of .154 btc .  


I made good money with dZcoop  but if we keep this r9-r12 together we need a plan for the btc shortage.  every day we stick to mining we have a shortfall of 800gh so the next order of business needs to be addressing this.

I middled my excess of hash power by selling off all my addiction shares. then cashing out.  I can stick to mining here but we need a plan for the lost hash.

sr. member
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I have 5 shares in R9. I am 100% committed to BTC, and would almost certainly vote to keep the hardware running as long as possible. Smiley

Just my 2c.
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Just wanted to stop in and tell you guys I havent forgotten- but I am off to china to meet with BA. I have some possible solutions in the works, I will have more info when I get back (not sure how much access I will have in China.. first time for me!)

Good luck, have a safe trip! Fyi, I was getting hash rate downward drift like crazy on my pi, flashing latest kernels with the pi-update utility and a reboot has me hashing at exactly the spot I should be now and no drift.
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This is a co-op.  We are all subject to the will of the vote.  You may not like the vote result but you can't argue not to even have the vote.

This is true and not something I had considered, actually. Thank you for reminding me. I would imagine, however, that rather than throw in the towel the co-op would want to understand options and make all reasonable efforts to bring it back up to par. I would think that DZ/Thomas would have significant weight in recommendations due to involvement in all runs in the co-op.

Hoping the trip to China is fruitful. I hope you have a gift for them (something small). They love red and yellow and the number 8. No watches.
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