Blue Fury Support Thread. - page 20.

Mudbankkeith

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Quote from: Jeffrey on November 13, 2013, 03:30:53 AM

People have to do pencil mod tricks to get some decent speeds. (and I'd like to add, please remove those posts from this thread, pencil-modding a device has nothing to do with support)

Possibly there is enough material, here in this thread, regarding over clocking, to justify a new thread, dedicated to overclocking? Roll Eyes

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Can anyone help me with the pencil mod
Right I got my multimeter and did a reading before the pencil mod
It measure 0.621 mohms

Im i Measuring it wrong and I guess the pencil mods can't be done on this bluefury's if I'. Getting a low reading

Any advice would be helpful

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Quote from: FrontLineFodder on November 13, 2013, 06:16:46 AM

Had some fun, Lite n easy delivery today, so I had some dry ice to 'burn' Grin

guess whats in the bucket.

had penciled BPM 3's R15 down to 0.658Kohms

Code:

 bfgminer version 3.6.0 - Started: [2013-11-13 18:35:05] - [  0 days 00:08:24]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 6 with stratum as user doyou reallycare
 Block: ...d6315b72 #269390  Diff:511M ( 3.66Ph/s)  Started: [18:35:04]
 ST:7  F:0  NB:0  AS:0  BW:[ 58/ 57 B/s]  E:44.41  I:  445uBTC/hr  BS:1.72k
 4            | 12.36/12.40/11.03Gh/s | A:212 R:0+0(none) HW:111/7.9%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 BPM 0:       |  2.94/ 2.93/ 2.67Gh/s | A: 55 R:0+0(none) HW: 13/4.0%
 BPM 1:       |  2.94/ 2.94/ 2.55Gh/s | A: 46 R:0+0(none) HW: 17/5.4%
 BPM 2:       |  2.78/ 2.79/ 2.71Gh/s | A: 34 R:0+0(none) HW: 19/5.6%
 BPM 3:       |  3.77/ 3.75/ 3.42Gh/s | A: 77 R:0+0(none) HW: 62/ 14%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would like to know how many milliamps it was drawing at the time Wink

I ran it for about 15 mins, the dry ice didnt last long.

If you "cryogenic" cool your hub and hub psu, It may also boost the power input. Grin

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Had some fun, Lite n easy delivery today, so I had some dry ice to 'burn' Grin

http://i.imgur.com/Oio4br4.jpg
guess whats in the bucket.

had penciled BPM 3's R15 down to 0.658Kohms

Code:

 bfgminer version 3.6.0 - Started: [2013-11-13 18:35:05] - [  0 days 00:08:24]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 6 with stratum as user doyou reallycare
 Block: ...d6315b72 #269390  Diff:511M ( 3.66Ph/s)  Started: [18:35:04]
 ST:7  F:0  NB:0  AS:0  BW:[ 58/ 57 B/s]  E:44.41  I:  445uBTC/hr  BS:1.72k
 4            | 12.36/12.40/11.03Gh/s | A:212 R:0+0(none) HW:111/7.9%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 BPM 0:       |  2.94/ 2.93/ 2.67Gh/s | A: 55 R:0+0(none) HW: 13/4.0%
 BPM 1:       |  2.94/ 2.94/ 2.55Gh/s | A: 46 R:0+0(none) HW: 17/5.4%
 BPM 2:       |  2.78/ 2.79/ 2.71Gh/s | A: 34 R:0+0(none) HW: 19/5.6%
 BPM 3:       |  3.77/ 3.75/ 3.42Gh/s | A: 77 R:0+0(none) HW: 62/ 14%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would like to know how many milliamps it was drawing at the time Wink

I ran it for about 15 mins, the dry ice didnt last long.

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Quote from: btmtb on November 13, 2013, 04:56:38 AM

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It's my understanding that the hashrate meter is constantly being revised at ozcoin and it's been rather inaccurate of late. Check the actual number of shares match to confirm there's nothing going astray, or try it on another pool (for at least an hour).

Thanks for the tip, didn't realise that, swapped to Slush' pool now, will report back.

Slush needs one full block and or one hour, minimum, for the miner hash rate to settle.
Also a minimum of 10 blocks to show your pool average.

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Quote from: btmtb on November 13, 2013, 04:56:38 AM

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It's my understanding that the hashrate meter is constantly being revised at ozcoin and it's been rather inaccurate of late. Check the actual number of shares match to confirm there's nothing going astray, or try it on another pool (for at least an hour).

Thanks for the tip, didn't realise that, swapped to Slush' pool now, will report back.

I have had problems with the 3.2.0 bfgminer losing contact with one of my furies over extended uptime (in Win7x64). The problem doesn't seem to affect cgminer, however.

I would also add that I actually saw FEWER HW errors from my Fury after the 'pencil mod'. It took my effective rate from about 2.11ghps to 2.55ghps or so. Not bad, not bad at all. It does make the fury a little warmer, but not as hot as the BEs get without any mods. So as long as you you have a decent fan on them, you should be fine IMHO as long as you're not in some rather hot area with no air conditioning. There are lots of unknowns when first developing a product. I strongly suspect if they had it to do again, they'd use a different resistor in that spot, or make it configurable/programmable. I don't fault them for that at all. They err'd on the side of caution, and a few swipes with a pencil is entirely easy.

One good thing about bfgminer, however, is that it will report the faster speeds almost immediately from the pencil mod. Those first two numbers go up to like 3ghps or so for the fury, with an effective (3rd #) rate of about 2.5 to 2.6ghps. So I am quite content. It's within the low-end estimate range without the mod, and hits the high-end estimate (2.7ish) with the pencil mod.

And to the person who asked that the pencil mod info be taken down... Who the hell do you think you are? Honestly? Bitterdog took time out of his life to provide high-quality images for everyone. He could have kept such info to himself, but didn't. I, for one, very much appreciate his efforts and the efforts of everyone involved (Beastlymac and SSINC in my case) in bringing this product to us. If only BFL had people with such integrity working for them...

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It's my understanding that the hashrate meter is constantly being revised at ozcoin and it's been rather inaccurate of late. Check the actual number of shares match to confirm there's nothing going astray, or try it on another pool (for at least an hour).

Thanks for the tip, didn't realise that, swapped to Slush' pool now, will report back.

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: btmtb on November 13, 2013, 04:17:55 AM

The numbers are (I've included the BE just for comparative purposes against other cheap hardware):
REPORTED BY CGMINER 3.8.1
AMU 0: | 335.3M/335.1Mh/s | A: 4204 R: 0 HW: 41 WU: 4.7/m
BF1 0: | 2.183G/2.175Gh/s | A:27518 R:203 HW:1847 WU:30.6/m

REPORTED BY POOL (Ozco.in)
AMU 449.09 MHash/s
BF1 1,294.84 MHash/s

It's my understanding that the hashrate meter is constantly being revised at ozcoin and it's been rather inaccurate of late. Check the actual number of shares match to confirm there's nothing going astray, or try it on another pool (for at least an hour).

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Quote from: btmtb on November 13, 2013, 04:17:55 AM

Got one of these to play with between old gear and waiting for new pre-orders to arrive. Running on W7 x64 with CGMiner 3.8.1 (had to use zadig to bind the driver to the device), alongside a crappy BE (which basically just keeps the room warm Wink

). I also tried this with the custom edition BFGminer linked in the first post which worked straight away after installing the .inf using device manager.

They work but the performance is poor against the stated numbers but this could still be due to my current setup, but it's still an interesting device regardless. CGM and BFG both reported similar hash rates numbers (though BFG didn't seem to report *any* errors, but I think this was inaccurate rather than amazing performance).

The numbers are (I've included the BE just for comparative purposes against other cheap hardware):
REPORTED BY CGMINER 3.8.1
AMU 0: | 335.3M/335.1Mh/s | A: 4204 R: 0 HW: 41 WU: 4.7/m
BF1 0: | 2.183G/2.175Gh/s | A:27518 R:203 HW:1847 WU:30.6/m

REPORTED BY POOL (Ozco.in)
AMU 449.09 MHash/s
BF1 1,294.84 MHash/s

I'm assuming the difference between the pool report and the software report is due to the number of rejects/errors, though I'm happy to be corrected by anyone who's more informed, and that is the source of the my little disappointment. At this stage, I'm not ready to blame the hardware personally, because I'm just awaiting delivery of a higher quality powered hub with hopefully a cleaner feed than my current, and new cooling heat sink and fan, once I've done this I'll be interested to see the results. I'll also try on another pool shortly, just to see if it's a problem with Oz. If these don't improve the throughput I'll be more inclined to think it's the chips or boards not meeting spec. Not pencil modded yet, I'll try this once I'm happiest that I've got the hashrate/errors at a stable level to provide a baseline for measuring any impact.

BF1 0: | 2.183G/2.175Gh/s | A:27518 R:203 HW:1847 WU:30.6/m

Your pool should still be returning more than 2Gh Try another pool........... and check your internet connection..............

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That's a perfect illustration why I like this forum. The highly refined and curteous way people here communicate with one another. Roll Eyes

Even though it might draw the wrath of HellDiver on me: In part I do agree with the previous poster: 2.2"ish" Gh/s is != 2.7 +/- 10

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Got one of these to play with between old gear and waiting for new pre-orders to arrive. Running on W7 x64 with CGMiner 3.8.1 (had to use zadig to bind the driver to the device), alongside a crappy BE (which basically just keeps the room warm Wink

). I also tried this with the custom edition BFGminer linked in the first post which worked straight away after installing the .inf using device manager.

They work but the performance is poor against the stated numbers but this could still be due to my current setup, but it's still an interesting device regardless. CGM and BFG both reported similar hash rates numbers (though BFG didn't seem to report *any* errors, but I think this was inaccurate rather than amazing performance).

The numbers are (I've included the BE just for comparative purposes against other cheap hardware):
REPORTED BY CGMINER 3.8.1
AMU 0: | 335.3M/335.1Mh/s | A: 4204 R: 0 HW: 41 WU: 4.7/m
BF1 0: | 2.183G/2.175Gh/s | A:27518 R:203 HW:1847 WU:30.6/m

REPORTED BY POOL (Ozco.in)
AMU 449.09 MHash/s
BF1 1,294.84 MHash/s

I'm assuming the difference between the pool report and the software report is due to the number of rejects/errors, though I'm happy to be corrected by anyone who's more informed, and that is the source of the my little disappointment. At this stage, I'm not ready to blame the hardware personally, because I'm just awaiting delivery of a higher quality powered hub with hopefully a cleaner feed than my current, and new cooling heat sink and fan, once I've done this I'll be interested to see the results. I'll also try on another pool shortly, just to see if it's a problem with Oz. If these don't improve the throughput I'll be more inclined to think it's the chips or boards not meeting spec. Not pencil modded yet, I'll try this once I'm happiest that I've got the hashrate/errors at a stable level to provide a baseline for measuring any impact.

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Quote from: Jeffrey on November 13, 2013, 03:30:53 AM

Sadly enough I'm starting to feel the bluefury isn't a good product.

That's your opinion. You obviously don't remember the clusterfuck the Block Erupters were when they came out.

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It's sold as 2.2-2.7ghs but many people don't even get above 2ghs. Besides that it seems many miners are bad products, only mining half speed or lower, and the amount of HW errors on all devices is just so high.
People have to do pencil mod tricks to get some decent speeds. (and I'd like to add, please remove those posts from this thread, pencil-modding a device has nothing to do with support)

The pencil mods should stay. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it should be removed from the thread. This is a support thread. Where people go to learn about the product they paid for.

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Also I see many questions and little answers.

I see more complaining and crying, especially from you.

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Hoping there will be something like new drivers or firmware that will fix this, but slowly I feel it was a bad buy, especially considering the price we paid.

Opinions are like arse-holes. Everyone has one, and most of them stink.

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Sadly enough I'm starting to feel the bluefury isn't a good product.
It's sold as 2.2-2.7ghs but many people don't even get above 2ghs. Besides that it seems many miners are bad products, only mining half speed or lower, and the amount of HW errors on all devices is just so high.
People have to do pencil mod tricks to get some decent speeds. (and I'd like to add, please remove those posts from this thread, pencil-modding a device has nothing to do with support)

Also I see many questions and little answers.

Hoping there will be something like new drivers or firmware that will fix this, but slowly I feel it was a bad buy, especially considering the price we paid.

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Quote from: jml on November 12, 2013, 11:05:21 PM

Quote from: eousphoros on November 12, 2013, 10:52:17 PM

Code:

cgminer version 3.8.1 - Started: [2013-11-12 21:43:52]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):16.88G (avg):16.77Gh/s | A:84239  R:352  HW:3356  WU:233.8/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 45  LW: 108588  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to pool diff 16 with stratum as user 1
 Block: 446cc771...  Diff:511M  Started: [03:46:42]  Best share: 213K
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 AMU 0:                | 335.8M/336.2Mh/s | A: 1660 R:  0 HW:  17 WU:  4.7/m
 AMU 1:                | 335.6M/336.1Mh/s | A: 1770 R:  0 HW:  20 WU:  4.5/m
 BAJ 0:  max 50C 3.34V | 8.328G/8.144Gh/s | A:40541 R:208 HW: 473 WU:112.7/m
 BF1 0:                | 2.666G/2.632Gh/s | A:13398 R: 48 HW:1002 WU: 37.4/m
 BF1 1:                | 2.602G/2.616Gh/s | A:13086 R: 64 HW: 917 WU: 36.6/m
 BF1 2:                | 2.701G/2.703Gh/s | A:13832 R: 32 HW: 929 WU: 37.9/m
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

All of the hw errors make me kinda sad.

Same as me, I am getting a lot of HW errors. PXY0 is an ASICminer blade overclocked and has a far less ratio between accepted shares and HW errors.

Code:

 PXY 0:       |  9.87/12.82/12.46Gh/s | A:2724 R:56+14(1.9%) HW: 393/.91%
 BPM 0:       |  2.38/ 2.38/ 2.28Gh/s | A: 486 R: 3+ 0(.63%) HW: 302/3.8%
 BPM 1:       |  2.35/ 2.34/ 2.17Gh/s | A: 465 R: 0+ 0(none) HW: 310/4.1%
 BPM 2:       |  2.36/ 2.36/ 2.14Gh/s | A: 425 R: 0+ 0(none) HW: 293/3.9%
 BPM 3:       |  2.32/ 2.32/ 2.21Gh/s | A: 443 R: 3+ 0(.68%) HW: 334/4.3%

Forget about the HW errors, What are you getting back from the pool? That is what matters.

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Quote from: jml on November 12, 2013, 11:02:52 PM

I am using bfgminer 3.6 and I have noticed the following with a D-Link 7 port hub 3Amp. OS is Raspbian wheezy.

- I am only able to plug in 2 bluefury (BF) USB sticks within one USB hub.
- Plugging more than 2 BF's on a D-Link USB hub will not work with bfgminer; I get 2 sticks with red LED's and the other 2 either yellow or orange LED's.
- BF USB sticks cannot live within the same USB hub with any combination of erupter USB stick; BE sticks won't be detected. They must be plugged elsewhere on a different hub but not within the same hub.

Has anyone noticed the same problem with my configuration?

9 Blues + 1 Red on 2 D-Link hubs using a Pi with MinePeon (angled extenders on sockets 1 & 7) no space to try erupters

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Huuuummmm may have used a little too much pencil
bfgminer version 3.5.1 - Started: [2013-11-12 21:11:42] - [ 0 days 00:37:44] [M]anage devices [P]ool management S ettings [D]isplay options [H]elp [Q]uit Connected to pool1.us.multipool.us diff 96 with stratum as user mogrith59.mogri Block: ...6886a3ab #214221 Diff:143k ( 1.02Th/s) Started: [22:48:40] ST:2 F:0 NB:31 AS:0 BW:[ 11/ 0 B/s] E:65.29 I: 240mBTC/hr BS:698 1 | 3.28/ 3.19/ 2.12Gh/s | A:9 R:1+0( 10%) HW:379/ 23% -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BPM 0: | 3.19/ 3.19/ 2.12Gh/s | A:9 R:1+0( 10%) HW:379/ 23% --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

this one has less (On Minepeon 0.2.4)
Devices Name ID Temp MH/s Accept Reject Error Utility Last Share BPM 0 N/A 2572.598 3527 29 [0.81%] 427 [5.63%] 16.824 22:51:46 Totals 1 2572.598 3527 29 [0.81%] 427 [5.63%] 16.824

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Quote from: eousphoros on November 12, 2013, 10:52:17 PM

Code:

cgminer version 3.8.1 - Started: [2013-11-12 21:43:52]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):16.88G (avg):16.77Gh/s | A:84239  R:352  HW:3356  WU:233.8/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 45  LW: 108588  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to pool diff 16 with stratum as user 1
 Block: 446cc771...  Diff:511M  Started: [03:46:42]  Best share: 213K
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 AMU 0:                | 335.8M/336.2Mh/s | A: 1660 R:  0 HW:  17 WU:  4.7/m
 AMU 1:                | 335.6M/336.1Mh/s | A: 1770 R:  0 HW:  20 WU:  4.5/m
 BAJ 0:  max 50C 3.34V | 8.328G/8.144Gh/s | A:40541 R:208 HW: 473 WU:112.7/m
 BF1 0:                | 2.666G/2.632Gh/s | A:13398 R: 48 HW:1002 WU: 37.4/m
 BF1 1:                | 2.602G/2.616Gh/s | A:13086 R: 64 HW: 917 WU: 36.6/m
 BF1 2:                | 2.701G/2.703Gh/s | A:13832 R: 32 HW: 929 WU: 37.9/m
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

All of the hw errors make me kinda sad.

Same as me, I am getting a lot of HW errors. PXY0 is an ASICminer blade overclocked and has a far less ratio between accepted shares and HW errors.

Code:

 PXY 0:       |  9.87/12.82/12.46Gh/s | A:2724 R:56+14(1.9%) HW: 393/.91%
 BPM 0:       |  2.38/ 2.38/ 2.28Gh/s | A: 486 R: 3+ 0(.63%) HW: 302/3.8%
 BPM 1:       |  2.35/ 2.34/ 2.17Gh/s | A: 465 R: 0+ 0(none) HW: 310/4.1%
 BPM 2:       |  2.36/ 2.36/ 2.14Gh/s | A: 425 R: 0+ 0(none) HW: 293/3.9%
 BPM 3:       |  2.32/ 2.32/ 2.21Gh/s | A: 443 R: 3+ 0(.68%) HW: 334/4.3%

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I am using bfgminer 3.6 and I have noticed the following with a D-Link 7 port hub 3Amp. OS is Raspbian wheezy.

- I am only able to plug in 2 bluefury (BF) USB sticks within one USB hub.
- Plugging more than 2 BF's on a D-Link USB hub will not work with bfgminer; I get 2 sticks with red LED's and the other 2 either yellow or orange LED's.
- BF USB sticks cannot live within the same USB hub with any combination of erupter USB stick; BE sticks won't be detected. They must be plugged elsewhere on a different hub but not within the same hub.

Has anyone noticed the same problem with my configuration?

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Code:

cgminer version 3.8.1 - Started: [2013-11-12 21:43:52]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):16.88G (avg):16.77Gh/s | A:84239  R:352  HW:3356  WU:233.8/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 45  LW: 108588  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to pool diff 16 with stratum as user 1
 Block: 446cc771...  Diff:511M  Started: [03:46:42]  Best share: 213K
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 AMU 0:                | 335.8M/336.2Mh/s | A: 1660 R:  0 HW:  17 WU:  4.7/m
 AMU 1:                | 335.6M/336.1Mh/s | A: 1770 R:  0 HW:  20 WU:  4.5/m
 BAJ 0:  max 50C 3.34V | 8.328G/8.144Gh/s | A:40541 R:208 HW: 473 WU:112.7/m
 BF1 0:                | 2.666G/2.632Gh/s | A:13398 R: 48 HW:1002 WU: 37.4/m
 BF1 1:                | 2.602G/2.616Gh/s | A:13086 R: 64 HW: 917 WU: 36.6/m
 BF1 2:                | 2.701G/2.703Gh/s | A:13832 R: 32 HW: 929 WU: 37.9/m
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

All of the hw errors make me kinda sad.

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Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks to all that helped me getting the BlueFury's working. I got it working on the PC (Win8.1x64) and Minepeon.

Also now that it is working. After running a sample run for 10 minutes there are a load of errors. Is this normal or do I have defective miners?

Here is a screenshot.

http://i.imgur.com/UvrHrsL.jpg

Thanks.

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