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Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Billy Joe Saunders - May 8 - page 4. (Read 1455 times)

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This is a great match. The two have a nice background in boxing industry. They hold several titles which make me think that the match will be worth the time to see. Both are skilled and are almost on the same level of strength. However, I think that this match will be in favor of Canelo Alvarez.
Thats why this is a must watch boxing event for this year.

Many of us are too confident that Canelo might win through knock out knowing his performance on his past opponents but I think its too early to say.

We cant underestimate the strength of Saunders and maybe this time he has a lot of improvement that we didnt see before.
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This is a great match. The two have a nice background in boxing industry. They hold several titles which make me think that the match will be worth the time to see. Both are skilled and are almost on the same level of strength. However, I think that this match will be in favor of Canelo Alvarez.

Canelo Alvarez has fought some widely-known, great boxers in the past. He has fought with Floyd Mayweather, Kovalev, Miguel Cotto, and many more. Though there are some opponents that he had a hard time fighting with, but he still managed to overcome them and win the match. Billy joe Saunders on the other hand has a good reputation as well in boxing. He fought with David Lemieux which I think highlighted and showcased his strength and ability among all of his matches. They will surely make the match intense and interesting to watch.
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

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Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.
@1.91, that is a low risk with high reward already but also take note that Saunders has an undefeated record so knocking him down isn't an easy task. I'm thinking that this will go into a decision.

Saunders has a huge speed advantage therefore, he demanded a bigger ring so that he can hit and run as fast as he could. This might be a easy night for Canelo but I'm pretty sure that he will pull this one off. I'm very much excited to watch this fight days from now Smiley.

But he can't run all night with a huge ring, sooner or later Canelo are going to caught up with him.

Just like in Amir Khan fight, Amir is very quick and in the early going, he score some rounds, but Canelo didn't get frustrated and continue to chase Khan around the ring until he caught him and then boom, the one single knock out punch. So this might repeat here, Saunders might be fast, but sooner or later he will get tired and Canelo will take advantage of it.
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415

Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.
@1.91, that is a low risk with high reward already but also take note that Saunders has an undefeated record so knocking him down isn't an easy task. I'm thinking that this will go into a decision.

Saunders has a huge speed advantage therefore, he demanded a bigger ring so that he can hit and run as fast as he could. This might be a easy night for Canelo but I'm pretty sure that he will pull this one off. I'm very much excited to watch this fight days from now Smiley.
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^^ Yup, and with that huge amount, it will definitely be a good risk/bet on Canelo to win by knock out. You just sit and watch the fight and hope that you can win your bet.

And Canelo has a good % of knockout if I'm not mistaken, so it is really possible.

I'm not taking on Saunders, I think Canelo's talent is just above anyone else in this division.
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415

Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.

Good odds and that's likely the outcome, but if the UD win has better odds, then I understand if @bisdak40 took that. Here we are again, we are all looking at Canelo's talent in boxing, and how good he is in his last fights, and that's the reason why we also did not see how attractive the value betting on his opponent, anyone taking on Saunders  with a very nice odds?

the odds for canelo by KO is still good at about 1.83 rather than placing a bet on him at 1.12 if he wins over saunders. couple of days and we will see another rumble inside the ring. this is gonna be interesting. most of boxing fans here are rooting for canelo. so hopefully, he will not fail us.
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415

Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.

Good odds and that's likely the outcome, but if the UD win has better odds, then I understand if @bisdak40 took that. Here we are again, we are all looking at Canelo's talent in boxing, and how good he is in his last fights, and that's the reason why we also did not see how attractive the value betting on his opponent, anyone taking on Saunders  with a very nice odds?
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415

Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.
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How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.

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Eubank Jr. Backs Up Talk, Bets £10,000 on Canelo To Knock Saunders Out

https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415
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It's starting to look doubtful whether this fight will even happen. Saunders has been complaining about the judges and about the ring size. I think Saunders and his father are just mad that Canelo is the center of attention and are making a big deal out of small things. It would be really crazy for Saunders to follow through on his threats of pulling out of this fight.

It's going to happen it's the end of Saunder's career in boxing if he did not show up without a valid reason, only an injury can make the fight stopped but not with ring size, it's a bad precedent and boxers can request any outrageous thing just not to make the fight push through, he will be charged with violation of the contract.
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@Yamifoud - fans are allowed to watch the fight live as tickets are on sale, but probably in limited capacity.

https://www.stubhub.com/canelo-alvarez-arlington-tickets-5-8-2021/event/104812241/?priceWithFees=true

I read all of Saunders complain, LOL, it's too late, and I'm sure he will be fine by not attending as Canelo Alvarez Goes Solo on Media Day at AT&T Stadium. I don't know if he is playing mind games against Canelo, but I think it won't work.

How can he play mind games when he is a huge underdog in this fight. I would agree with Saunders to play this kind of games if he has the talent to offset Canelo but he hasn't the had the tools.

And probably this will make Canelo more motivated and not to let the fight goes to the judges scorecard as he might go for a knock out here in the later rounds. Bitch move from Saunders and his team and it will totally back fire on them.
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It's starting to look doubtful whether this fight will even happen. Saunders has been complaining about the judges and about the ring size. I think Saunders and his father are just mad that Canelo is the center of attention and are making a big deal out of small things. It would be really crazy for Saunders to follow through on his threats of pulling out of this fight.
He wants attention that is why he is complaining even with just a few things like ring size, judges etc.
Canelo really is the center of attention right now and he is always the attention whenever he has a fight.

Maybe its mind games like @kemarit has said Cheesy but with the experiences Canelo has, I don't think that it will be effective against him. We know that Saunders is kinda trolling when he is in the ring and we saw that against Lemieux. We might see this too in the 8th of May. The battle of Speed against the Power.
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@Yamifoud - fans are allowed to watch the fight live as tickets are on sale, but probably in limited capacity.

https://www.stubhub.com/canelo-alvarez-arlington-tickets-5-8-2021/event/104812241/?priceWithFees=true

I read all of Saunders complain, LOL, it's too late, and I'm sure he will be fine by not attending as Canelo Alvarez Goes Solo on Media Day at AT&T Stadium. I don't know if he is playing mind games against Canelo, but I think it won't work.
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It's starting to look doubtful whether this fight will even happen. Saunders has been complaining about the judges and about the ring size. I think Saunders and his father are just mad that Canelo is the center of attention and are making a big deal out of small things. It would be really crazy for Saunders to follow through on his threats of pulling out of this fight.

According to Eddie Hearn, both fighters knew before hand that there will be no British and Mexican judge, so I don't know why Saunders is complaining. For me this is a sign that Saunders has been beaten psychologically even before the fight starts.

Of course Canelo is the A side in this fight, if he pulls out of this fight, it will be the end of Saunders career and expect a boxing litigation.
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It's starting to look doubtful whether this fight will even happen. Saunders has been complaining about the judges and about the ring size. I think Saunders and his father are just mad that Canelo is the center of attention and are making a big deal out of small things. It would be really crazy for Saunders to follow through on his threats of pulling out of this fight.
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If by chance, Saunder will win by KO, the odds is at 40.0 right now, while if he wins by decision, at 6.60 odds. Do you think some gamblers will bet on him? Canelo is clearly the favorite to win here. We don't know what kind of preparation they both have. So we are only basing from their previous fights.

It's hard to bet on Saunders, Canelo is just too good in his last fight and he will be better than his last fight, Canelo just keeps getting better, his performance against Smith is just awesome and for me, Smith is a better fighter than Saunders, I'm sure Canelo will win I just want to see his improvements because he is training hard for this fight.
I think Saunders will only be good on early rounds like what I have seen on his previous fights but its not going to work for Canelo. Anyway this is an interesting fight with these two great boxers.

I think the same, hope Saunders will survive the barrage of punches to the body that Canelo will throw as i will be betting on a Canelo win via UD. I don't think that Canelo will lose in this stage of his career, lack of quality opponents or he is just too good hehe.
Canelo might win but if we think that Saunders will last, I guess we will still get good odds for betting on Canelo to win by decision.
The last fight of Canelo proved that if his opponent will refuse to be aggressive and will choose to survive, it could happen, so that bet has a chance here.

Just 5 days left before this fight take place. Is the venue already been set?

The venue for this fight is AT & T Stadium in Texas. That's formerly known as the Cowboy's Stadium.

So crowd is already allowed here?
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If by chance, Saunder will win by KO, the odds is at 40.0 right now, while if he wins by decision, at 6.60 odds. Do you think some gamblers will bet on him? Canelo is clearly the favorite to win here. We don't know what kind of preparation they both have. So we are only basing from their previous fights.

It's hard to bet on Saunders, Canelo is just too good in his last fight and he will be better than his last fight, Canelo just keeps getting better, his performance against Smith is just awesome and for me, Smith is a better fighter than Saunders, I'm sure Canelo will win I just want to see his improvements because he is training hard for this fight.
I think Saunders will only be good on early rounds like what I have seen on his previous fights but its not going to work for Canelo. Anyway this is an interesting fight with these two great boxers.

I think the same, hope Saunders will survive the barrage of punches to the body that Canelo will throw as i will be betting on a Canelo win via UD. I don't think that Canelo will lose in this stage of his career, lack of quality opponents or he is just too good hehe.

Just 5 days left before this fight take place. Is the venue already been set?

The venue for this fight is AT & T Stadium in Texas. That's formerly known as the Cowboy's Stadium.
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If by chance, Saunder will win by KO, the odds is at 40.0 right now, while if he wins by decision, at 6.60 odds. Do you think some gamblers will bet on him? Canelo is clearly the favorite to win here. We don't know what kind of preparation they both have. So we are only basing from their previous fights.

It's hard to bet on Saunders, Canelo is just too good in his last fight and he will be better than his last fight, Canelo just keeps getting better, his performance against Smith is just awesome and for me, Smith is a better fighter than Saunders, I'm sure Canelo will win I just want to see his improvements because he is training hard for this fight.
I think Saunders will only be good on early rounds like what I have seen on his previous fights but its not going to work for Canelo. Anyway this is an interesting fight with these two great boxers.

Just 5 days left before this fight take place. Is the venue already been set?
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The reason why the odds for Saunders winning by way of knock out is very high is that it is very unlikely to happen. It may happen as unexpected results do happen in boxing sometimes but you cannot be counting on that with your money. Even that decision win for Saunders is unlikely to happen.

But there are always people who will bet on certain fighters even if they are underdogs. It happens always. May be they are huge fans of the fighter, they are simply counting on the possibility of an upset, or they are trying to make big money by risking.

Upsets are still happening in any contact sports we have just seen some upsets in MMA and  Saunders have a good knock out ratio we cannot rule out any possibility of a knockout and if you are betting for Saunders to win by knock out now that's a real gamble, both fighters knows the importance of this match, they will come to prepare and give the spectators a big surprise, I love to see Canelo fight again because every fight for Canelo is a showcase of a new skill.
Saunders has an undefeated record and his knockout ration is obviously lower than 50% so if Saunders will have a chance of winning this fight, it will turn out to be a decision.
On the other hand, I want to think that Saunders still have a chance to knockout Canelo but all throughout Canelo's boxing career he hasn't been knocked out yet or even knocked down once. He wobbled once but that is when he is still 18 years old. I'm not removing the possibility of Saunders knocking out Canelo since everything is possible in boxing but the chances of it to happen is somewhat close to zero percent (for me).

I believe though that upsets are happening especially in boxing and we've seen many of this. If this will be an upset, it will be a decision and not by a knock out. Either way, all of us are happy to see these 2 boxers fight with each other Smiley.
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If by chance, Saunder will win by KO, the odds is at 40.0 right now, while if he wins by decision, at 6.60 odds. Do you think some gamblers will bet on him? Canelo is clearly the favorite to win here. We don't know what kind of preparation they both have. So we are only basing from their previous fights.

The reason why the odds for Saunders winning by way of knock out is very high is that it is very unlikely to happen. It may happen as unexpected results do happen in boxing sometimes but you cannot be counting on that with your money. Even that decision win for Saunders is unlikely to happen.

But there are always people who will bet on certain fighters even if they are underdogs. It happens always. May be they are huge fans of the fighter, they are simply counting on the possibility of an upset, or they are trying to make big money by risking.

That's how bookies work, they make odds based on what people thought on a certain fight. What people think now is that Canelo would win easily, so he is now overvalued in the sportsbook, and that gives very high odds for his opponent just to attract bettors.

I don't think oddsmakers are making odds based on what people thought. Odds are usually created by expert analysts. Of course it is normal that the odds would match a lot of people's expectation.

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As for me, I think the odds are just right and I would love to play Saunders to win for higher odds, just for the sake of fun and who knows this little chance would win. However, now, in reality, I think Canelo would win, but just in case he makes mistakes, at least I'll benefit.

There are people who bet this way. I don't do it this way unless I believe in the fighter to be capable of winning despite the odds.
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