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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD
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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.

by the replies, we could already see Canelo is the winning bet.  there is just so much Canelo had done in the past compare to Billy Joe Saunders when we look at the names of the opponents he beaten there the famous names including Shane Moseley, Kovalev and then Miguel Cotto. although both of them started at a young age,  there is no discounting Canelo is a much stronger fighter. the fight will just taint 1 loss for Billy Joe's record.


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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD



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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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Yes, Callum Smith he has the perfect plan as he has all the tools to be honest, but Canelo was too good. His jab doesn't have any effect on Canelo, he simply touch him but Canelo keeps coming forward with body shots that weakens Smith force him to just survived the fight. I think only a prime GGG can outwork Canelo and win at 160 lbs or 168 lbs.

I think to beat Canelo, you really have to beat him the fight, be the first to throw so that he will be off balance and then maybe he will be frustrated and then you counter him perfectly, just like what Triple-G did in their first meeting. But you also have the iron chin, and then the stamina. You also need to be the bigger guy so that you can push him around and put your weight on him during clinch like what Fury did against Wilder. And during the clinch, you should also throw some punches. And then you have to be very technical to let him miss.
I think you are talking about a better Canelo him, or his own version. Unfortunately, we haven't see any boxer that can do that to him. he fought taller and bigger guys already and they have no chance of beating him because he is smarter and he knows how to timing his punches to beat his opponent. As they say, it's easier said than done and until Canelo can experience the taste of defeat I will not stop backing him, of course I don't count the defeat from Mayweather as that's another type of boxer.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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Yes, Callum Smith he has the perfect plan as he has all the tools to be honest, but Canelo was too good. His jab doesn't have any effect on Canelo, he simply touch him but Canelo keeps coming forward with body shots that weakens Smith force him to just survived the fight. I think only a prime GGG can outwork Canelo and win at 160 lbs or 168 lbs.

I think to beat Canelo, you really have to beat him the fight, be the first to throw so that he will be off balance and then maybe he will be frustrated and then you counter him perfectly, just like what Triple-G did in their first meeting. But you also have the iron chin, and then the stamina. You also need to be the bigger guy so that you can push him around and put your weight on him during clinch like what Fury did against Wilder. And during the clinch, you should also throw some punches. And then you have to be very technical to let him miss.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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Yes, Callum Smith he has the perfect plan as he has all the tools to be honest, but Canelo was too good. His jab doesn't have any effect on Canelo, he simply touch him but Canelo keeps coming forward with body shots that weakens Smith force him to just survived the fight. I think only a prime GGG can outwork Canelo and win at 160 lbs or 168 lbs.
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^^ If there is such a blue print on how to beat Canelo, it will be Golovkin's strategy on the first fight. I'm sure majority of us saw the GGG beat Canelo. Many boxing analyst was infuriated with the judges decision there. It was very narrow and close fight, but the it was the wrong decision. In any case, GGG really fought toe to toe, never give Canelo the change to get comfortable and settle on his sweet spot.

However, can Saunders do that? does he have enough gas in his tank to fight full 12 rounds without himself getting hurt from the body shot? Does he have the chin?
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Saunder taking it personally?

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“I’m the seventh Brit he’s faced, he’s dealt with six of them very comfortably. The Brits like dancing and moving and thinking they’ve gotta run away, but I will be there for him to hit. I will be in range for him to hit," Saunders told Talk Sport.

And this is his plan:

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“I’ll be setting traps, the same as he’ll be setting traps. I don’t think running a million miles an hour is gonna do me any justice… He’s not got the best engine in the world, Canelo. He’s very good at what he does, extremely good at what he does, but there’s faults there. We’ve seen people try to run away and box him, we’ve seen people try to use the brawn, but we’ve only seen one man use his brain and that was Floyd Mayweather.

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Meaning he will go toe to toe against one of the most dangerous boxers in the world. No offense to him, but this is suicide, he will be open for a quick knock out from Canelo here.
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How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.

Let's see what will be the outcome on this fight, it needs more time for Canelo to study what's his opponent's weakness. Saunders capacity is really outstanding if we would have to consider it as the best odds for this coming fight. It's so exciting fight to see and betting will be more fun when you knew the advantage of your chosen boxer.

I don't think Canelo has a hard puzzle in Saunders as an opponent. I think he can fight normally and easily defeat Saunders. There's nothing that requires changing. It is not Canelo's problem to find out how to defeat Saunders. Quite the opposite, I think it requires a good amount of strategic planning, training, improvement, adjusting, etc on the part of Saunders to even last the whole 12 rounds with Canelo. If they prefer to do away with a UD against Canelo, that's even a lot harder to figure out how.

More than likely, Canelo will end this fight as soon as possible by KO just like Yildirim. But if Saunders can last up until 12 rounds, will bet on Canelo here. But working up until 12 rounds is not easy here. Saunders really do need a strategy how to make that happen. Hopefully, it will not be a mismatch like the Yildirim fight.

That KO might not really be on Canelo's plan. It will come at the perfect time after a perfect shot. Canelo has a strong power so that KO punch might land anytime within the fight.

On the other hand, Saunders might get a tip or a lesson or two from Callum Smith and Daniel Jacobs's 12-round survival with Canelo.

Not completely ruling out an upset on this fight though.
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How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.

Let's see what will be the outcome on this fight, it needs more time for Canelo to study what's his opponent's weakness. Saunders capacity is really outstanding if we would have to consider it as the best odds for this coming fight. It's so exciting fight to see and betting will be more fun when you knew the advantage of your chosen boxer.

I don't think Canelo has a hard puzzle in Saunders as an opponent. I think he can fight normally and easily defeat Saunders. There's nothing that requires changing. It is not Canelo's problem to find out how to defeat Saunders. Quite the opposite, I think it requires a good amount of strategic planning, training, improvement, adjusting, etc on the part of Saunders to even last the whole 12 rounds with Canelo. If they prefer to do away with a UD against Canelo, that's even a lot harder to figure out how.

More than likely, Canelo will end this fight as soon as possible by KO just like Yildirim. But if Saunders can last up until 12 rounds, will bet on Canelo here. But working up until 12 rounds is not easy here. Saunders really do need a strategy how to make that happen. Hopefully, it will not be a mismatch like the Yildirim fight.
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How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.

Let's see what will be the outcome on this fight, it needs more time for Canelo to study what's his opponent's weakness. Saunders capacity is really outstanding if we would have to consider it as the best odds for this coming fight. It's so exciting fight to see and betting will be more fun when you knew the advantage of your chosen boxer.

I don't think Canelo has a hard puzzle in Saunders as an opponent. I think he can fight normally and easily defeat Saunders. There's nothing that requires changing. It is not Canelo's problem to find out how to defeat Saunders. Quite the opposite, I think it requires a good amount of strategic planning, training, improvement, adjusting, etc on the part of Saunders to even last the whole 12 rounds with Canelo. If they prefer to do away with a UD against Canelo, that's even a lot harder to figure out how.
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How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.



Let's see what will be the outcome on this fight, it needs more time for Canelo to study what's his opponent's weakness. Saunders capacity is really outstanding if we would have to consider it as the best odds for this coming fight. It's so exciting fight to see and betting will be more fun when you knew the advantage of your chosen boxer.
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How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.

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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD



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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
If BJS did not Knockout Canelo? then he might be in trouble as we knew the opponent is really good in point system and His stamina , meaning that once the fight ends up to the last round then Saunders will be in trouble.

So better to know the opponent of face the bad consequences .
I'm highly doubtful about the chances of Canelo getting knocked out by BJS and yeah, Saunders will be in trouble the whole game I suppose so it's the battle of stamina and strength that would bring them to victory but only one can gain the title as a champion.

I don't want to be rude for Saunders fans but this might be his first lose if he can't beat the score card for Canelo. The only chances that I see is if Saunders could knock down Canelo that would be the score card on his side already.
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Saunders trainers has speak up:

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Mark Tibbs, head trainer for WBO super middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders, feels confident that his boxer can pull off a major upset when he faces WBC, WBA champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.

The two boxers are scheduled to collide on May 8th, with the location to be determined.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


It was Mike Tyson who says that everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face, they can have the best plan in the world, but if their boxer cannot take a punch then they better bid goodbye to that plan, the best plan is to have an iron chin and a big punch, I'm excited on the match after Saunders maybe the Charlo brothers will come next.

If a fighter is hit and he think he can't take the hit anymore, he will change his plan, instead of winning he will change it to surviving. I've seen a lot of fights in the past already that a cocky boxer trying to intimidate the champion but when he taste the punch, he change his style and just try to survive the 12 rounds.

This is very true, and I saw those things happened before when Pacquiao was still fighting in his prime.
His opponents were aggressive before the fight, but afterwards, they lay low and admitted his power inside the ring.
But if nothing else, this Alvarez vs Saunders fight is interesting to see, hopefully, not a boring one.
And the odds are out already in betbtc. Clearly, Alvarez is favored here.


https://www.bestodds.ai/odds/sport-boxing/matchups/billy-joe-saunders-vs-saul-alvarez
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Saunders trainers has speak up:

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Mark Tibbs, head trainer for WBO super middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders, feels confident that his boxer can pull off a major upset when he faces WBC, WBA champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.

The two boxers are scheduled to collide on May 8th, with the location to be determined.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


It was Mike Tyson who says that everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face, they can have the best plan in the world, but if their boxer cannot take a punch then they better bid goodbye to that plan, the best plan is to have an iron chin and a big punch, I'm excited on the match after Saunders maybe the Charlo brothers will come next.

Yes, that quote from Mike Tyson is brilliant, you have a plan, you lay it down with your trainer, you practice it to perfection, but once you gets hit, you totally forget about it and then go toe to toe, hehehehe, that's macho mentality. I don't think that Saunders have an iron chin, he has been down and been rock throughout his career. Again, for me Charlo brothers are too small for 168 lbs.
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Saunders trainers has speak up:

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Mark Tibbs, head trainer for WBO super middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders, feels confident that his boxer can pull off a major upset when he faces WBC, WBA champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.

The two boxers are scheduled to collide on May 8th, with the location to be determined.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


It was Mike Tyson who says that everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face, they can have the best plan in the world, but if their boxer cannot take a punch then they better bid goodbye to that plan, the best plan is to have an iron chin and a big punch, I'm excited on the match after Saunders maybe the Charlo brothers will come next.

If a fighter is hit and he think he can't take the hit anymore, he will change his plan, instead of winning he will change it to surviving. I've seen a lot of fights in the past already that a cocky boxer trying to intimidate the champion but when he taste the punch, he change his style and just try to survive the 12 rounds.
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Saunders trainers has speak up:

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Mark Tibbs, head trainer for WBO super middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders, feels confident that his boxer can pull off a major upset when he faces WBC, WBA champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.

The two boxers are scheduled to collide on May 8th, with the location to be determined.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


It was Mike Tyson who says that everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face, they can have the best plan in the world, but if their boxer cannot take a punch then they better bid goodbye to that plan, the best plan is to have an iron chin and a big punch, I'm excited on the match after Saunders maybe the Charlo brothers will come next.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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If you taste the first punch and you can't handle, then your Plan A is voided already. That's what happen to Callum Smith, they say he has the potential to beat beat Canelo, big, and power on both hands. But we have seen that once he tasted Canelo body punch, he just simply can't executed his game plan because he keeps on opening up against the short but big punch coming from Canelo. So yes, it's a question on how you gonna bet a fighter like Canelo as he haven't seen any blue print to beat him.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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Canelo in short is the better fighter, but I believe Callum Smith did his best, to be able to last in 12 rounds is already a big success as most boxers Canelo face would not last 12 rounds, Calum Smith will improve and let's hope we will see him one day to fight again Canelo, who knows right?
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https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.


What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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