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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD



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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.

He has fulfilled his mandatory, beat him by quitting in his stool and then said,  I didn't break a sweat, lets make it more challenging by going on the supposedly next tougher guy in the division, a champion and that is Billy Joe Saunders.

And again, on paper, the match has some hype, Saunders is the champion and supposedly has the perfect game plan to beat Canelo. But if you inspect closely, we see that this is not a big challenge . No disrespect to Saunders, but Canelo is invincible right now and the stronger one and could unify the belts at super middle weight.
You could be right but at least we have something to look forward to, the mandatory fight was a waste of time, even his opponent knew he had no chance but he had to fight and earn a small fortune in the process, even if this fight results in a disappointment at least it will be one more step on the quest Canelo has of reunifying all the belts under him and that is always attractive, maybe once he does that Canelo could fight in a heavier division as he will have no opponents left to fight if he remains in the one he is currently in.
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I'm a fan of Canelo but if ever he will face Manny, I might bet against him as I like to support my country man.

If they ever meet I will also support Pacquiao because he needs all the support and prayer because he is fighting a fighter who is at his prime and probably one of the big punchers and with good excellent ring generalship, I hope they will not meet for Pacquiao's sake, Pacquiao although still great and in great shape, age might creep in on him.
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I'm a fan of Canelo but if ever he will face Manny, I might bet against him as I like to support my country man.
Well, who knows there will be a fight between Manny and Canelo since most of their fans looking forward to these two fighters that will have a match soon.
Even me, Manny Pacquiao was a legend of the boxing industry and I will not hesitate to support him in his fight. He is a very aggressive boxing fighter among others and no doubt on it.
However, on the match of Canelo and Saunder, I am in favor of Canelo, he has a strong punch that makes Saunder in serious pain. Perhaps, the odds now are in favor of Canelo.
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Better if Canelo would just stay up on the current weight division and wont tend to chase down and reduce himself just for the sake of fighting Manny, neither of the two would really
be sacrificing something if they move neither up or down on said division but for Manny then i wont be seeing that his fight with Canelo would turn out to be good.

Canelo would stay at his current weight division, he is dominating so theirs no need to try to follow the footstep of Manny as with his size, he can't do that. Manny is already a legend, it might take centuries before someone could beat his record and the good thing is he is still fighting now and that gives us time to  enjoy seeing these fighters getting good fights.

I'm a fan of Canelo but if ever he will face Manny, I might bet against him as I like to support my country man.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

Nah, it won't happen, Canelo is too big for Manny, too different  weight class, one a ageing legendary boxer who's legacy is already cemented. While the other is on his prime and destroying everyone in it's path.

Pacquiao should stick to 147 lbs, Canelo to 168 lbs. Let's just enjoys Canelo ride to greatness and become a legend himself. No need to bring his name to fight Manny.

That's a big difference in weight for sure whoever decide to fight is the one who needed to adjust, Manny can't go that heavy as surely he's going to lose his speed.

maybe if ever, Canelo can go down losing much weight if he really aiming to fight Manny, but like you, I personaly like to leave it that way.

Let them shine from what division they've belong.
Who knows about the probability for this fight to happen but since there are no news or rumors that do rises up this time then lets presume that this one hadnt really been able to push through.

Better if Canelo would just stay up on the current weight division and wont tend to chase down and reduce himself just for the sake of fighting Manny, neither of the two would really
be sacrificing something if they move neither up or down on said division but for Manny then i wont be seeing that his fight with Canelo would turn out to be good.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

Nah, it won't happen, Canelo is too big for Manny, too different  weight class, one a ageing legendary boxer who's legacy is already cemented. While the other is on his prime and destroying everyone in it's path.

Pacquiao should stick to 147 lbs, Canelo to 168 lbs. Let's just enjoys Canelo ride to greatness and become a legend himself. No need to bring his name to fight Manny.

That's a big difference in weight for sure whoever decide to fight is the one who needed to adjust, Manny can't go that heavy as surely he's going to lose his speed.

maybe if ever, Canelo can go down losing much weight if he really aiming to fight Manny, but like you, I personaly like to leave it that way.

Let them shine from what division they've belong.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

Nah, it won't happen, Canelo is too big for Manny, too different  weight class, one a ageing legendary boxer who's legacy is already cemented. While the other is on his prime and destroying everyone in it's path.

Pacquiao should stick to 147 lbs, Canelo to 168 lbs. Let's just enjoys Canelo ride to greatness and become a legend himself. No need to bring his name to fight Manny.

They could fight in a catch weight but it's not good IMO as for sure Canelo will have to drain himself just to fight Manny, not good for boxing and not good for Canelo's career as Manny never loss fighting a big man in his career in a catch weight fight.

Manny should focus on Crawford while Canelo please give GGG a trilogy fight.  Grin
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

Nah, it won't happen, Canelo is too big for Manny, too different  weight class, one a ageing legendary boxer who's legacy is already cemented. While the other is on his prime and destroying everyone in it's path.

Pacquiao should stick to 147 lbs, Canelo to 168 lbs. Let's just enjoys Canelo ride to greatness and become a legend himself. No need to bring his name to fight Manny.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

There's no Canelo vs Pacquiao, there's even no rumor for that. It's actually Pacquiao vs Crawford and that was not finalized yet although we have heard from Bob Arum already regarding fight. Also, no one is interested anymore on Pacquiao vs McGregor because McGregor loss on his last fight.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.
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This is not related to Canelo or Saunders, but will "champion be still a champion" if he was loosing the fight and won only due to disqualification (landed an illegal strike not on purpose, but while being in a "rage-mode") of his opponent?
My comment was about "power level" mate. Yes, generally top-3/5 rank are strong compared to the rest. So in the case of disqualification and stuff, as long as, the title fight is between those ranks, well.. "a champion is still a champion." Hence anyone trying to fight the champ will still respect him because his "power level" is up there. Sometimes, luck is what makes the champ stands out from the other top-3/5.


Canelo lost over Mayweather but in an interview, Mayweather admitted that Canelo can box and hard to beat. he pays respect to Canelo that they lasted 12 rounds. a champ is a champ. if they do a rematch, Mayweather might be in a dangerous position knowing he is already past prime 44 years of age.

with Saunders, he has the experience advantage due to his southpaw stance if he could establish lead foot to throw a power punch as Pacquaio would do it.
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This is not related to Canelo or Saunders, but will "champion be still a champion" if he was loosing the fight and won only due to disqualification (landed an illegal strike not on purpose, but while being in a "rage-mode") of his opponent?
My comment was about "power level" mate. Yes, generally top-3/5 rank are strong compared to the rest. So in the case of disqualification and stuff, as long as, the title fight is between those ranks, well.. "a champion is still a champion." Hence anyone trying to fight the champ will still respect him because his "power level" is up there. Sometimes, luck is what makes the champ stands out from the other top-3/5.
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A champion is still a champion

This is not related to Canelo or Saunders, but will "champion be still a champion" if he was loosing the fight and won only due to disqualification (landed an illegal strike not on purpose, but while being in a "rage-mode") of his opponent?
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A champion is still a champion, no matter if he is someone relatively less popular. From the technical point of view, surely Canelo is way better than BJ Saunders, but remember that boxing is also about weight. I think BJ Saunders is bigger and heavier than Canelo that will make a big problem for him. I think this match will be a nice slugfest. I'll go for Canelo.
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by the replies, we could already see Canelo is the winning bet.  there is just so much Canelo had done in the past compare to Billy Joe Saunders when we look at the names of the opponents he beaten there the famous names including Shane Moseley, Kovalev and then Miguel Cotto. although both of them started at a young age,  there is no discounting Canelo is a much stronger fighter. the fight will just taint 1 loss for Billy Joe's record.

Of course Saul Alvarez is the favorite in this fight and I am sure he will beat Billy Joe Saunders. That's what the bookmakers' odds say. I'm more interested to see if Saunders can make it through all 12 rounds.

By the way, does anyone know what weight class the fight will be in yet?

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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.

The fight between Pacquiao and Crawford has not reached its finality yet. Like what you mentioned, there are only some speculations about the whole fight. Compared to Alvarez vs Saunders (as it also falls right exactly on my birthday), I might actually go big on this fight.

It's been a while since I last engaged into sports gambling but I feel good in this fight. The domination of Alvarez continues and I feel like he's going to be more dominant in the upcoming years and into the future.

So in that case are you ready the bet the odds of Canelo even at? ;
Canelo @1.17

Probably an early round could give a better odds but until now there are only limited odds so we can't tell.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.

The fight between Pacquiao and Crawford has not reached its finality yet. Like what you mentioned, there are only some speculations about the whole fight. Compared to Alvarez vs Saunders (as it also falls right exactly on my birthday), I might actually go big on this fight.

It's been a while since I last engaged into sports gambling but I feel good in this fight. The domination of Alvarez continues and I feel like he's going to be more dominant in the upcoming years and into the future.
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But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.
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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD



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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.
There is no need for overconfident in every boxing fight because a single punch can drop Him down like a dead cow so better for Him to treat the fighter/opponent as a wild animal that in any chances can kill Him.

Canelo is one of the best for this division and i know with all His effort he can bring down BJS .

But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .
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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD



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Now that Canelo Alvarez has torn through the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his 168-pound championship, he can fully focus on the first of two title unification fights he hopes to win later this year.

As expected, Matchroom Boxing announced after Alvarez’s three-round demolition of Avni Yildirim on Saturday night that he’ll battle unbeaten WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders on May 8. The site of the Alvarez-Saunders bout wasn’t announced, but promoter Eddie Hearn informed BoxingScene.com before Alvarez defeated Yildirim that Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, are the two venues under serious consideration.

OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.
This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.

He has fulfilled his mandatory, beat him by quitting in his stool and then said,  I didn't break a sweat, lets make it more challenging by going on the supposedly next tougher guy in the division, a champion and that is Billy Joe Saunders.

And again, on paper, the match has some hype, Saunders is the champion and supposedly has the perfect game plan to beat Canelo. But if you inspect closely, we see that this is not a big challenge . No disrespect to Saunders, but Canelo is invincible right now and the stronger one and could unify the belts at super middle weight.
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