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October 12, 2023, 07:31:02 AM


 Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.

I agree Inoue will just beat him easily if this is the kind of performance he can show, he thought he could knockout Oguni in the first round but Oguni just took all his punches, and Oguni also connected, power punches of Casimero who usually drops his opponents are not there anymore I don't want to know what happens to his punches but it seems he cannot carry his power in the Super Bantamweight but unfortunately he cannot stay in the Bantamweight because he can not keep up with the weight.
Casimero is fading if this continues he will end up beaten up by a good fighter in the Super Bantamweight, Oguni is not even considered as a top prospect in that weight category.
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October 12, 2023, 07:30:37 AM
You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.

Right from the get-go, it seemed like Casimero was off-balance, and he lost some of his speed. It appeared as if he was eager to finish the fight early with a knockout, which might have caused him to tire out. This strategy didn't work out so well, especially since his opponent had a strong chin and absorbed many good counter punches while continuing the fight.

It's definitely a draw, and I'm sure quite a few of us were hoping for a KO or a clear win by decision for Casimero.

Now, it makes me curious what was the odds for draw, isn't it x100?
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October 12, 2023, 07:16:26 AM


Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

This is the second straight time that Casimero has shown sluggishness in his fight he easily loses steam if the fight was not stopped he could lose the fight because Oguni just eats his punches and there are many punches of Oguni coming in.
Will this become the end of Casimero's era I didn't see Casimero's old form, he usually hurt or knockout his opponents if he connected his left hook but it seems the power of those hooks is not there anymore, I hate to say that Casimero is fading I rule out an Inoue fight its risky to fight Inoue after hsi dismal showing in his last two fights.


He's out of gas earliest of the round and that is disappointing part to be seen. If he remain like that for sure he don't have any chance to win against Inoue since that Japanese monster is well known to last until 12 rounds. Many fans got disappointed since he start so strong on first round but he's catching some air when round 2 until the end of their match. Also got disappointed with the result since I really think that Casimero win that match since he heavily beaten up Oguni on that match.

We see how strong the punches of Casimero but his stamina is really a huge upset to it so maybe on his next fight he need to get a proper trainer to enhance his gas so he can last long and can deliver more solid punch to his opponent. Many are not satisfied with his todays performance and for sure his haters will laugh at him and call him old and need to retire. Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.
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October 12, 2023, 07:09:55 AM
You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.
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October 12, 2023, 07:02:27 AM


Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

This is the second straight time that Casimero has shown sluggishness in his fight he easily loses steam if the fight was not stopped he could lose the fight because Oguni just eats his punches and there are many punches of Oguni coming in.
Will this become the end of Casimero's era I didn't see Casimero's old form, he usually hurt or knockout his opponents if he connected his left hook but it seems the power of those hooks is not there anymore, I hate to say that Casimero is fading I rule out an Inoue fight its risky to fight Inoue after hsi dismal showing in his last two fights.
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October 12, 2023, 06:56:57 AM
Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.

I'm a bit puzzled about why the fight ended in a draw. If it's true that Oguni was ahead on the scorecards, then he should have been declared the winner, especially since the fight was stopped due to a possible accidental headbutt. Casimero seems to have a streak of bad luck when it comes to facing Japanes opponents. The last time ended in a "no contest," and he was fortunate that his opponent admitted defeat and that win was recorded as TKO.

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.
Not really that knowledgeable when it comes to boxing rules when it comes to headbutts and cuts if a fight would really be that be completely stopped and would be called a draw, because we've seen fights that even fighters have those cuts but still the fight continues. I totally much agree that when it comes to stamina then that Jap fighter is much more tougher and its true that the current
performance or fighting style of Casimero is really just that too far off for Inoue on which i could say that he wont really be standing a chance.

Imagine that Oguni caliber isnt really that much but he do struggle out on knocking him out. How much more if we do speak about Inoue? He would really be massacred inside the ring.
For the fight results then everyone is shocked, some say that Casimero win but for me i would go for Oguni when it comes to scores.
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October 12, 2023, 06:52:49 AM
The fight ended not as we wanted it seems the referee ruled it a draw because of the cut on Oguni's head the rule is if there's a cut because of the headbut before round 4 it is considered a draw, I noticed that Casimero lost sting on his punches, but he deserves this win because the cut results from punches and not from headbut there's a possibility of a draw but with this fight we have seen that Casimero is easily losing steam he caught Oguni with big punches but failed to bring him down, could be Oguni has a solid chin or Casimero losses in his punches.
I don't think he stands a chance against Inoue if they ever meet.

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.
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October 12, 2023, 06:47:36 AM
Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.

I'm a bit puzzled about why the fight ended in a draw. If it's true that Oguni was ahead on the scorecards, then he should have been declared the winner, especially since the fight was stopped due to a possible accidental headbutt. Casimero seems to have a streak of bad luck when it comes to facing Japanes opponents. The last time ended in a "no contest," and he was fortunate that his opponent admitted defeat and that win was recorded as TKO.

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.
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October 12, 2023, 06:47:12 AM
The fight ended not as we wanted it seems the referee ruled it a draw because of the cut on Oguni's head the rule is if there's a cut because of the headbut before round 4 it is considered a draw, I noticed that Casimero lost sting on his punches, but he deserves this win because the cut results from punches and not from headbut there's a possibility of a draw but with this fight we have seen that Casimero is easily losing steam he caught Oguni with big punches but failed to bring him down, could be Oguni has a solid chin or Casimero losses in his punches.
I don't think he stands a chance against Inoue if they ever meet.
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October 12, 2023, 06:41:38 AM
Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.
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October 12, 2023, 06:39:12 AM
I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.
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October 12, 2023, 06:26:16 AM
The Japanese fighter is taller though, and so it seems that Casimero has had a hard time against Oguni. However, Casimero is throwing big bombs and at least 4 has connected by Oguni is just eating it.

But I'm not sure if that jaw can hold with that power from Casimero. John Riel is also targeting that body.

Round 2 has just started, let's see if Casimero can score a knockout win as we wanted him to win that way. Another good round for Casimero.
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October 12, 2023, 06:19:08 AM
I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713

Thanks for sharing, buddy! Let's savor this fight; I'm pretty sure they won't take it down because they want us to witness our champ in action, hehe. I'm not sure who the PPV provider is for this event, but I don't really bother since most of Casimero's fights are live on Facebook, even if it's through unofficial streaming.

Right now, Casimero is in an interview, and he seems like a genuinely helpful person, quite the opposite of his boxing persona.
Thanks for the shared up link bro!

Right now it is already the start of the main event. Singing their national anthem. Seems like Casimero is really that in good condition and shape. Somewhat he shouldnt really be that confident
though yet it turns out that he's the favorite of this fight against with Japanese fighter. Lets see if this fight would really be able to show something if ever Casimero and Inoue
would happen but well lets just focus on this fight for now.

About on the stream then usually it wont really be taken down.Somewhat streamers do shows off those text for some donations but well its not
really that being forceful though but its up to you whether be giving out some donation or not.  Tongue
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October 12, 2023, 06:17:40 AM
I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight. Casimero taking on a relatively unknown fighter might not be the best matchup, but the fact that it's happening in Japan could set the stage for some serious hype around a potential Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

They say Casimero should secure a win by KO, so it's a smart move to bet on him for a KO victory.

Unfortunately, there aren't any betting odds available yet for Casimero winning by KO. Right now, it's just the moneyline, and the odds are only at 1.15.

Yeah, limited options to bet on our local bookies but i secured a bet on my crypto bookies "over 6.5". I hope that Casimero would not catch Oguni early in the fight so that we will enjoy watching until the 10th round hehe.

ATM, Casimero's name is already called by the announcer.

Good luck to us Kabayans.
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October 12, 2023, 05:56:45 AM
I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713

Thanks for sharing, buddy! Let's savor this fight; I'm pretty sure they won't take it down because they want us to witness our champ in action, hehe. I'm not sure who the PPV provider is for this event, but I don't really bother since most of Casimero's fights are live on Facebook, even if it's through unofficial streaming.

Right now, Casimero is in an interview, and he seems like a genuinely helpful person, quite the opposite of his boxing persona.
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October 12, 2023, 05:49:26 AM
I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713
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October 12, 2023, 05:47:59 AM
I'm tuning in right now, and I believe the main event is up next. I missed the undercard, but it seems there's a Filipino winner. I'll have to find out the name later, I guess. But for now, I'm really looking forward to the upcoming match.

Speaking of streaming, there are plenty of free streams on Facebook, so you all can tune in there now.

GOOD LUCK KABAYAN CASIMERO!
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October 11, 2023, 07:44:28 AM
I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight. Casimero taking on a relatively unknown fighter might not be the best matchup, but the fact that it's happening in Japan could set the stage for some serious hype around a potential Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

They say Casimero should secure a win by KO, so it's a smart move to bet on him for a KO victory.

Unfortunately, there aren't any betting odds available yet for Casimero winning by KO. Right now, it's just the moneyline, and the odds are only at 1.15.
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October 11, 2023, 06:59:49 AM
@bisdak40, thanks for sharing the betting odds of the fight. i check it my own and I can see that all markets are not yet available. I was waiting for the round range as it's way easier to predict compared to predicting the exact round. Maybe i'll just check again tomorrow, maybe they'll add that, hopefully.

As this site says, https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/john-riel-casimero-vs-yukiorni-oguni-date-start-time-tv-channel-and-live-stream/b9414df5e8l61ts8q9yim887v

The time is

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Casimero vs. Oguni fight date, start time
Date : Thursday October 12
Time : 10 a.m. UK / 5 a.m.​ ET
Main event ringwalks (approx): 12 p.m. UK / 7 a.m.​ ET

That's 7:00 PM tomorrow if converted.
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October 11, 2023, 06:17:57 AM
Odds are already out and it seems bookies are predicting that this would end via knockout so let us guess what round it may be.

Unlike Nghitumbwa, Oguni is very silent and secretive about his training camp and not so vocal about this fight so i think he is intimidated by Casimero. Since it is very hard to predict on what round this will end, i will just bet that this fight will reach over 6.5 with that @1.91 odds.




Just as anticipated, the odds have been released in advance of tomorrow's fight. I'm quite interested in observing how Casimero plans to defeat Oguni. He's the clear favorite, judging by the odds but odd is attractive on winning by decision. The probability of that happening seems quite low. So, it's either he faces the risk of losing if the fight goes to the judges' scorecards, possibly due to hometown bias, or he might secure a victory by knocking out Oguni.

The over 6.5 rounds option is tempting, but, to be honest, I'm more inclined to take a chance on odds greater than 1.91, but I wanna say good luck to you.
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