Topic: [Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 - page 9. (Read 1947 times)

He can continue mentioning Inoue if he beats and knocks out Oguni his last fight is not good if he mentions Inoue after his last fight people will not believe that he can beat Inoue he needs to level up his game and prove that he has what it takes to beat Inoue and maybe Inoue's promoter will notice it and finally arrange a match, with how Inoue perform and reputation he is only going to pick boxers who deserves like a champion like himself or with a good rank in the 4 boxing organization

It's Casimero who needs Inoue more than Inoue needs Casimero, Inoue can just ignore Casimero because he is hungry to conquer new weight classes and titles.

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

But his strategy is to win every fight and win it by knockout. Meaning it should be impressive that the boxing community might think that he will have same chance against the Monster. And if he wins by knockout, then for sure, the first thing that he will call is Inoue. But Naoya will have to deal with Tapales for unification.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

I don't think that Casimero will go back to MP promotions, the damage has been done between two parties and maybe as long as Sean Gibbons is with Manny, I doubt that he will re-sign with MP.
And it seems that he has move forward already with his Japanese promoter, had fights held in Manila and now he will have a Japanese fighter in front of him.
So he has move on with his career and as what we have been saying, this fight is going to be the deal breaker for him.
He needs to win impressively so that he will send the message across that he is still one force to reckon in this division.
His Japanese promoter are taking it easy, so this might be good for John Riel although he is not getting any younger though.

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

And if Inoue will not secure a rematch clause against Casimero, then we already know why and that is because they are not viewing Casimero as a threat. We cannot blame them if they will choose that but in that case, they should be careful because anything can happen because if ever Casimero upsets him. Then I don't think he's in the right page to call for a rematch because Casimero is not obliged to give that to him, unless Casimero wanted that as well.

But his current situation makes him hard to get title matches. Maybe if he will go back to MP promotions he can get those big matches that he want as the management says that they can give that to Casimero if he want to go back and the only condition they need is to say sorry to them. But I think its hard for Casimero to do it since he's like he surrender to them and eat his own pride just to get those matches.

But if he really want  there fight against Inoue will happen he need a solid promotions to backed up him and maybe if MP promotions handle Casimero maybe they can set some good contracts to make this match happen.

And most likely this is the reason for Casimero to bolted out of MP promotions and move to a Japanese promoter? So that in the future, maybe he can secure a fight with the Japanese monster.

Or maybe as per reported before, Casimero wanted to be his own boss, even as far as going back to the Philippines when MP's Sean Gibbons advise him to stay in the US after his win against Rigo.

And most likely there is a blame game between the two, when Casimero failed to make 118 lbs 2x and was never able to fight Butler.

I believe the current promoter is not doing well. Since leaving MP Promotion, he hasn't been able to secure great fights. I think the solution is to return to having good fights in the future. Who knows, he might have a chance to fight Inoue if MP Promotion can negotiate a good deal with Inoue's camp. This could potentially happen if he continues to win. At his current age of 34, he needs to be selective with his fights, as 34 years old is no longer considered young.

As I mentioned, the promoter still plays a significant role in making big fights happen.

Perhaps he might be in the borderline of losing his prime years already at age 34 years old. So everything depends on his this fight, I mean if he looks sharp and win by knockout, then we might say that he can still fight and pull that trigger.

But if he can't and then won by a boring 12 rounds decision which also happens in his last fight in Manila, maybe he was already on the decline and he can't do anything if ever he will have to face Inoue in the future. So let's see how his performance against Oguni before we can make our conclusions.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I think just like you, it could be that those results happen and they can have the best results, because basically I don't believe that Inoue Kle will pass through Tapalñes, although as I have always said, everything is possible in boxing, for that reason it is what I I say that boxing can give surprises, just seeing the result of Spence vs Crawford because it is something that no one expected, but of course we all know the level of the Japanese and without detracting from what Tapales does, but he is more proale than gne Inoue, you can see that he can do it, now Csimero's fight is the same, we all know that Casimero is a favorite, that he can make a difference because what he can achieve may be different, however we must think about something, that he is a boxer that they can surprise him, it is even very likely that it happens, so the training of this boxer must be above the one he must face, I am one of those who think that if he can achieve it, because I want to see the fight between Casimero vs Inoue .

I like to get ahead of these fights, I think many things can be done, I could think that the boxers have that fight in mind, whether one of them wins or loses, I think that fight should happen, so that Inoue does want to be one of them. The best have to beat the best in this category, and I am very sure that he can give him that plea, in fact one of the boxers who wanted me to welcome Inoue was that one, but well the events happened like this and well nothing to do, now things are going the way they are, I think that these boxers must think that they do not have it easy, that a boxer who has just increased the category is already handling it and that is something that can be very strong for those who have always dominated This category, and it is also somewhat shocking, however I stick to the talent, to the genius of an Inoue who does not neglect his talent , the Japanese can be seen to train Day and Night, that is why they are his results.

A strong opponent isn't enough; he wants to face the strongest, and there's no one else but the winner of Inoue vs. Tapales, which I believe Inoue is likely to win. Inoue should give Casimero a chance to fight him, as that would undoubtedly excite the crowd. Most of Inoue's fights aren't very entertaining, as they tend to be one-sided. So, dancing with Casimero in the ring could add an element of unpredictability.

If it were only about the money, he could earn a decent amount. However, as a boxer, it's about achieving something significant before retirement. Just imagine if he could beat Inoue; that would elevate his name to the ranks of the greatest boxers in the lower divisions and open up opportunities for even bigger fights. I believe that if Inoue agrees to fight Casimero, he might ask the promoter to include a rematch clause in case he loses, giving him a chance to reclaim his title.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

This fight is very important for both of them so that a fierce fight will definitely be presented later it just that of the two Casimero has more dominant advantages such as more mature fighting experience and he has also held more than just one title several times so there a chance for Casimero to beat Oguni.
No one can predict how the fight will go whether it will last until the final round or end by knockout because Oguni also said that he was prepared and would give Casimero a surprise.

Casimero really can't wait to meet and fight Naoya Inoue and that the reason why he is trying to move up in class and have a chance to fight Naoya Inoue the WBC and WBO champion in the Batam Super class.
The decision is also up to Naoya Inoue whether he will accept Casimero challenge or not but if this challenge is accepted there will be quite a hot and spectacular title fight.

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.