Topic: [Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 - page 13. (Read 1877 times)

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

This fight is very suitable for Casimero to shine, he is one of the best boxers and he has not given much to talk about, so perhaps this fight was organized so that Casimero has not had much action and they do not want them to be forgotten of him, so this is something that cannot be left unnoticed, in our case when we think of boxers like him, they will always be what attracts attention, whereas Oguni is a boxer who is not very renowned, or I don't know much about him. His career is an athlete who, many times, has done things that can benefit him, but here is a golden opportunity for him, because if he beats a legend like Casimero, he would be listed as one of the best in the category. The danger of this type of fight for boxers like Casimero is that if he does not start training well and hard, they can surprise him in a way that he would not like, in the case of him, he must train as hard as if he were going to fight against Inoue, because in Boxing things can happen Anyway, if Oguni has a tougher training then he can win, because nothing is Written and as I said before, a boxer wins his fight is in training, because miracles the probability of its occurrence is very low.

We all know the power that Casimero has in these cases , we cannot say less because he is a pretty good boxer, nor is it that Oguni is not good, but mostly we as fans follow other boxers but it really does not sound like Oguni to me , He is a Boxer that from what I have investigated about him, well, he falls among the most normal boxers, who want to be promoted, but I think putting a test as great as Casimero's on him is putting a fairly large ceiling on him, so as I have said nothing is impossible, and I can that this Oguni does not Make his Mouth open,  and it would even be something interesting if this boxer shows us that he has a good level of Boxing.

Yes, it's really up to Inoue and his manager if who they wanted to be the challenger and indeed if they are going to stay at 122 lbs for sometime before moving up. So in this case, the best thing for Casimero is just to win his fight as what we said, just like what he did in 118 lbs, he needs to knockout his opponents and maybe he will be given the chance despite not ranking higher.

Also one way it what he has done in the past, taunt Inoue specially that this fight is in Japan, maybe Inoue will be in the ring side to watch it live and if Casimero wins then he can call Inoue.

Winning in this match is like it's a ladder for casimiero to reach his target Opponent which is the monster of Japan inoue but for me casimero must don't rush for that when though he will know that he can best oguni easily but he must take this fight seriously as we all know that Oguni is one of the best fighter in their division and also cashmere must win this fight and it's better if it's came from Knockout so that the Fans will support him again.

The provocation is to prove that Casimero can beat Inoue and to stop the so called Inoue craze.  They should have met in the ring way back years ago but it was cancelled due to the pandemic.  When the boxing resume, they should have continued that cancelled fight but Casimero's camp were surprised when Inoue were scheduled to fight agaisnt Moloney instead of Casimero.  This maybe a personal thing for Casimero since they should have been matched but Inoue's  camp had a change of heart.

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I believe that there is a reason why Casimero is actually trying to provoke Inoue to fight against him. I think he believes that if he actually takes the long path, he might not even win consistently to actually reach what he is targeting, which is in this case getting a fight against Inoue. Otherwise he would have fought other fighters. I am not talking trash about anyone. I am just saying that to fight against the best fighter you have to prove yourself first. Otherwise it does not make sense for the best fighter to fight against you. This is what my opinion is, of course, I could be wrong.

That will be his only choice because fighting this Oguni from Japan will not guarantee anything to make him the mandatory challenger for the undisputed champion because of the fact that you've said. It will be a wild race and yet Casimero has chosen a path that doesn't involve his rankings and so his sole choice to be selected to be one is if Naoya Inoue will choose John Riel Casimero himself, and also considering that Inoue wins his fight.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Ok, so another bold revelation from their camp. It must have been very hard though for the Casimero's early on their lives as it seems that John Riel cheated so that he can box and most likely earn money for his family back then. And probably that is the reason why he is really tough not just physical, but mentally as well because of his early upbringing.


Yes, this is also what the majority is saying here. Casimero needs to give us an impressive win, by knockout so that he can secure at least a shot for the title. Otherwise if this is just another low and so-so performance, then he might not get his chance against Inoue.

There is an update about Casimero's age streamed by this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMjQeKVyAs&t=126s, showing  John Riel Casimero's brother Jason Casimero stated that they cheated on John Riel Casimero's age just to be qualified as a professional boxer while he is talking with the camp of Casimero on his live streaming channel called Quadro Alas It's my boy. John Riel Casimero's brother stated that John Riel Casimero started boxing at the age of 16, they cheated and added 2 years just to make Casimero qualified to be a professional boxer.  So it means Casimero is only 32 years old and is only 2 years older than Inoue.

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

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Sometimes im already that get pissed or got irritated on how this man calls Inoue about for a fight and made out some provocation but its true that as Inoue is really getting up those belts then the chances
for these two fighters to have that clash is getting more slimmer and slimmer. I dont know on why people do still call for this fight considering that if we do try to compare about their rankings then i would
say that Casimero would really be still needing to climb up to reach out Inoue. If ever there would be some consideration which this fight could be set up but it would really be that totally
depending into its promoter though because this is something the key which would really be making this fight happen but for now lets see on how he would be handling out Oguni on this upcoming October.

That's completely unnecessary for Casimero to call someone who's an elite fighter. I know he just wants attention to have a shot at fighting Inoue before when he said it, up until now that motive remains the same but Casimero's chances are becoming slimmer as time passes by. I've seen him practicing punching the bag, but he's out of shape, his belly became bigger and he looks like demotivated. Saw it from a random boxing reel in Facebook. Well, I hope he's gonna come back win a championship and have a chance to fight Inoue.

Bob had been building up Inoue for a long time, he had to go and fight outside Japan this time. One way of doing this is to move up to the usual weight of the Westerners. This will also give him money when fights are in the US. Since he had defeated Fulton, it should not also be surprising that he can carry on defeating others in that division but most likely the goal is not just to make money but also belts.

I'm not sure if Pacman had unified a lot of belts but Inoue made it to that level as well.

Inoue knows very well what is happening here. He knows that he is a money fight right now. And there will be a lot of people trying to fight against him. And Casimero is probably doing this because he wants to have a go at him even though he might not deserve it. I am definitely not going to say that he does not deserve the fight. It is a different conversation if he actually deserves the fight or not. But if there is a big fighter who can actually be a payday for other fighters, there will be a lot of fighters talking trash about him.

So I don’t know if he is going to take Casimero seriously or not. Maybe if Casimero wins his fight on 12th October, he will get his chance.

If you guys have forgot, CASIMERO AGREES TO THREE-FIGHT DEAL WITH JAPANESE PROMOTERS; which is why now he is getting a Japanese boxer again instead of what we have expected as he is indeed looking forward to make his name good and lift his rankings in WBC as well. If I'm not mistaken, this will be his last fight with the said promoter and after that, we will likely see Nery vs Casimero if in case there is still time before of the any sanctioning bodies will order a mandatory fight to the unified champion.

Easy win for Casimero? I won't doubt that and would love to bet if this wouldn't fall below 1.50 odds. I think I agree with what Darker45 said and he should have set his eyes on the prize that are worth it, he should have demanded for a worthy opponent instead of Oguni that's already ageing.

I think Bob Arum only said that because he wanted to hype Inoue but the truth is Inoue could not break Pacman's record of the being the only boxer to achieve that fate, 8-division world champion. Inoue is just a 3-division world champion and so many big names just one or two division up of the super bantamweight division which i think are hard to defeat.

Inoue is one of Bob's cash cow at the moment so he will say whatever good things he could say when the press are around.

I just hope that Bob would let his ward fight Casimero very soon.

This won't stop until he gets a chance to fight Inoue. He's set his sights on Inoue as he seeks a fast track to success, but Casimero's luck in this regard seems a bit uncertain, as he hasn't been able to cross paths with Inoue just yet. This is his opportunity, as they now compete in the same division—Casimero as a challenger and Inoue as the champion.

It wouldn't be unreasonable if Inoue were to put an end to the speculations surrounding their matchup by facing Casimero. It could silence Casimero in one effective way: a knockout victory. However, it's perplexing why Inoue doesn't seem interested. This lack of enthusiasm on Inoue's part raises questions and can't help but lead people to consider whether Inoue is avoiding a clash with Casimero out of fear.