[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 - page 12.

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Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

That last point on your statement is true, small chance still a chance and even by stats Tapales is by far from Inoue we can't conclude
it yet if a lucky punch will give him the win.

Though we are hi-jacking the topic, it's good to see if Tapales will do everything and bring his name up, whether he loses or he makes an
upset, it will be interesting to see his progress and his fighting dedications.

Let see if what will be the turn of events for both Tapales and Casimero who will going to have their respective fights.

He may have a very slim chance in this fight but that is certainly not a reason for him to give up early because we never know, upset can happen anytime and thinking that it's somehow possible, there's still a chance as long as he will give his very best to show the world that he wasn't just lucky on why he became a champion as he sure do worked hard for it. For me, I don't care anymore whether if he loses or not. What's more important is that he will make the Filipino's proud because he is the first Filipino boxer who will fight for the undisputed level, a feat that Pacquiao could've achieved but this is Tapales now and he is the one who made it first.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 06, 2023, 09:35:01 AM

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I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

But for us, we're lucky because our sports bookies might not want to pass in this because everything is a business for them. And I agree with you right there mate, ML won't be that juicy and so it's only possible for us to find good odds in other options.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 06, 2023, 10:12:21 AM

Maybe we can see some betting odds later once the date is getting nearer to its fight night. Or maybe betting odds are only available to local countries where these two fighters came from.

Yukinori Oguni was a good opponent some years ago. He is a former world champion. But he went inactive or probably made a retirement and then some years later he made a comeback but only settled to draw against a mediocre opponent. Oguni is currently more than a year inactive so this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

About Casimero's quick rise in the rankings, it is normal since he is a 3-division world champion and it's been a long time since he lost a fight.

The betting odds will be most released on the match night,it also may easy available to the fighters countries.Because this is not the factor of the Casimero and Oguni,this odds was common to all the players and favours the fighters countries.Yukinori Oguni record was the unique one,he won 21/25 matches till his 35 years,many people saying Oguni going to retire from the boxing.

But it’s hard one,still at his retirement age,Japanese player Oguni had good record of 8 KO and 13 win by decision.In his complete record,the draw matches and loss are each two game.The record of 4/25 was very hardest part,Casimero need to very cautious even after one year gap for the Oguni.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 05, 2023, 09:53:41 PM

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

Regarding my recent checking at some major boxing odds preview sites, the odds for this fight is not available yet.

There's no doubt that John Riel Casimero will be the favorite here being ranked #10 by The Ring, ranked #6 by the WBC, and ranked #3 by the WBO while on the other hand, Yukinori Oguni isn't even ringing a bell for being a strong contender and just staying at his comfort zone for long.

Should be another win for Casimero as it really should be no matter what. Losing against a not even consider a strong contender does mean that says goodbye on his quest of becoming a world title holder again. Easy road to being ranked facing unpopular boxers on the way. Good progress indeed to become close on being a title contender.

https://www.proboxingodds.com/
https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/John-Riel-Casimero-1319
https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-oguni/

Maybe we can see some betting odds later once the date is getting nearer to its fight night. Or maybe betting odds are only available to local countries where these two fighters came from.

Yukinori Oguni was a good opponent some years ago. He is a former world champion. But he went inactive or probably made a retirement and then some years later he made a comeback but only settled to draw against a mediocre opponent. Oguni is currently more than a year inactive so this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

About Casimero's quick rise in the rankings, it is normal since he is a 3-division world champion and it's been a long time since he lost a fight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 06, 2023, 09:35:01 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 05, 2023, 09:53:41 PM

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Most of the time, if the fight isn't that popular, the odds are not released early. Since this isn't a championship fight, we can expect the odds to come out a week or a day before the fight, so just be patient as we'll eventually be able to place our bets at the right time. However, I'm expecting that Casimero will be the heavy favorite, so there's likely no value in the moneyline. Perhaps betting on a knockout win within a specific round range could be an interesting option.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 05, 2023, 09:53:41 PM

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 05, 2023, 09:53:41 PM

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

Regarding my recent checking at some major boxing odds preview sites, the odds for this fight is not available yet.

There's no doubt that John Riel Casimero will be the favorite here being ranked #10 by The Ring, ranked #6 by the WBC, and ranked #3 by the WBO while on the other hand, Yukinori Oguni isn't even ringing a bell for being a strong contender and just staying at his comfort zone for long.

Should be another win for Casimero as it really should be no matter what. Losing against a not even consider a strong contender does mean that says goodbye on his quest of becoming a world title holder again. Easy road to being ranked facing unpopular boxers on the way. Good progress indeed to become close on being a title contender.

https://www.proboxingodds.com/
https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/John-Riel-Casimero-1319
https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-oguni/

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I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 05, 2023, 07:42:25 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 05, 2023, 10:31:20 AM

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

That last point on your statement is true, small chance still a chance and even by stats Tapales is by far from Inoue we can't conclude
it yet if a lucky punch will give him the win.

Though we are hi-jacking the topic, it's good to see if Tapales will do everything and bring his name up, whether he loses or he makes an
upset, it will be interesting to see his progress and his fighting dedications.

Let see if what will be the turn of events for both Tapales and Casimero who will going to have their respective fights.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 05, 2023, 10:31:20 AM

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

Casimero's journey ahead is very tough. If he wants to become a champion, he needs to beat Inoue in the current division. I'm no longer considering the outcome of Inoue vs. Tapales, as I'm certain Inoue will easily win. Now, I'm more interested in how Casimero and Inoue will negotiate once the former becomes a mandatory challenger.

I read an article stating that Inoue would stay in this division for a while after beating Tapales. That statement alone gives hope to us fans that one day we will see our anticipated fight, which is Casimero vs. Inoue. This one should be a war.

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

Casimero's journey ahead is very tough. If he wants to become a champion, he needs to beat Inoue in the current division. I'm no longer considering the outcome of Inoue vs. Tapales, as I'm certain Inoue will easily win. Now, I'm more interested in how Casimero and Inoue will negotiate once the former becomes a mandatory challenger.

I read an article stating that Inoue would stay in this division for a while after beating Tapales. That statement alone gives hope to us fans that one day we will see our anticipated fight, which is Casimero vs. Inoue. This one should be a war.

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Quote from: harizen on September 03, 2023, 07:58:40 PM

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 31, 2023, 05:44:56 PM

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 04, 2023, 09:24:48 AM

So consistency is the key although we wanted for to him impressively. I guess we are used to seeing this man knocking people out. But he should focus one fight at a time, this time is opponent doesn't have a good record so hopefully he can win and it could be a added bonus if that is a big knockout. And then after that, maybe he can chase Inoue. If no Inoue then just continue with fighting good boxers like Nery.

Consistency is no longer a problem for him, as he hasn't lost a fight in the current division he is competing in. Yes, as long as he has more fights and keeps winning, his ranking will likely improve, and he might become a mandatory challenger. Hopefully, by that time, Inoue is still in the same division so they can face each other, putting an end to the speculation.

This fight isn't what we were expecting. Personally, I thought Casimero would face a tougher opponent, but he ended up fighting a less active boxer. The only positive aspect of this fight is that it will be held in Japan. If Casimero continues to taunt Inoue, fans may start calling for a showdown between them, which would be beneficial for both fighters and us as fans, as it's a matchup we want to see.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Yes, he started at a unranked fighter as obviously this is a new division for him. But after 2 fights, he is slowly breaking into the top 5 or top 100.

Quote from: harizen on September 03, 2023, 07:58:40 PM

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

So consistency is the key although we wanted for to him impressively. I guess we are used to seeing this man knocking people out. But he should focus one fight at a time, this time is opponent doesn't have a good record so hopefully he can win and it could be a added bonus if that is a big knockout. And then after that, maybe he can chase Inoue. If no Inoue then just continue with fighting good boxers like Nery.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

Agree to that, better to focus on each fight that will offer to him, keep winning and let those fights hype his name and his rankings.

For now, the schedule fight is important to continue his chase in earning a title. Coming from the scratch is not an easy task for him
but there's nothing he can do aside from making his way to become a good challenger.

I like that last statement. If destiny dictates, there's no one who can stop the possibility of facing Inoue inside the ring,
let the future state itself.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

Yes, it might have a slight effect on his power, as his opponent might be used to taking bigger shots than what Casimero can throw.
But still though, it is his ticket in this weight class, he needs to win, and win impressively with a knockout so that he can have a potential date with Inoue.
And they chooses the right opponent for him, a cherry pick fight and we should see no less than a knockout.
Also, Casimero shouldn't take his opponent lightly, he also needs to train harder and think of the future as a motivation for this fight.

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I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 03, 2023, 09:28:33 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 03, 2023, 03:30:37 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 03, 2023, 01:54:34 AM

Quote from: lionheart78 on August 31, 2023, 05:44:56 PM

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

I'm also looking forward about it because I'm also waiting to see if Casimero still have the power to knock his opponent out, that fight against Ryo Akaho is not included, IMO, because that was a messed up fight. Casimero deserved that fight and deserved to celebrate at the end of the fight, but for some reasons, Akaho became an Oscar awardee because of his acting skills he showed and hence why the fight has ended much earlier.

This time, this is his chance to show that he still have that knock out power because his foe, Oguni doesn't possess anything that can truly challenge the Filipino pride. And if he still cannot knockout Oguni, I think it's too much for him to ask for a fight with Inoue. Just saying.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 03, 2023, 03:30:37 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 03, 2023, 01:54:34 AM

Quote from: lionheart78 on August 31, 2023, 05:44:56 PM

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division. He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

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