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September 10, 2022, 10:26:42 AM
Perhaps they are waiting for the Canelo vs GGG trilogy and wanted to see how the fans are going to react, like the PPV numbers. But it doesn't make sense because fanbase are different. I guess we are all just looking for some excuses as to why the fight is still delayed.  This fight is one of the biggest for the year 2022 and we are all hype about it.



I don't think that's necessary, it's already given, this fight will generate huge PPV sales and gate entrance as well. That's not the problem I'm seeing here, it's probably the split of the revenue, or one of the boxers is not confident he can win the fight, of course, that would result in losing the undefeated record.
In my perspective these fight are better than canelo vs GGG and it's different fight because canelo and GGG that fight is a rematch which is we already saw the first fight but this fight are the most awaited fight in the year it because both fighters Spence and Crawford they are both undefeated so the fans want to see this in live so without a doubt if where this fight gonna happend expecting that there a lot of people where come and want to see.
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September 10, 2022, 09:31:01 AM
Perhaps they are waiting for the Canelo vs GGG trilogy and wanted to see how the fans are going to react, like the PPV numbers. But it doesn't make sense because fanbase are different. I guess we are all just looking for some excuses as to why the fight is still delayed.  This fight is one of the biggest for the year 2022 and we are all hype about it.



I don't think that's necessary, it's already given, this fight will generate huge PPV sales and gate entrance as well. That's not the problem I'm seeing here, it's probably the split of the revenue, or one of the boxers is not confident he can win the fight, of course, that would result in losing the undefeated record.
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September 09, 2022, 04:59:21 PM
Of course this is mere speculation, because I have a lot of faith that it will be done, also September is a very good month to square the best world events in sports and give great joy to all fans and bettors.

Soon we will be down to the last quarter, if there's no announcement this month regarding the final date of the fight, then it's safe not to assume anymore that this fight is gonna happen this year. I know it's a big fight and we all want to see this, however, if they did not agree with the terms, then hyping this is just useless after all.

Everyone has faith that this fight will be done, but so far, there is no announcement that some of us is thinking that is not going to happen anymore, at least for this year.

Perhaps they are waiting for the Canelo vs GGG trilogy and wanted to see how the fans are going to react, like the PPV numbers. But it doesn't make sense because fanbase are different. I guess we are all just looking for some excuses as to why the fight is still delayed.  This fight is one of the biggest for the year 2022 and we are all hype about it.

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September 09, 2022, 11:36:25 AM
For now, let's just wait for some final announcements as I heard that they are already nearing the end of their discussion and just prepping the undercard fights to maximize the revenue.

That specific update was I think released last month or about 2 weeks ago and I've heard they are looking forward to making the fight happen somewhere in October or November, so I reckon that by the end of this month they can already announce the final details to make the fight happen in the same month when they envisioned it. Also, to at least give the people some time to prepare everything prior to the fight date and of course some final preparations for both camps.

It's now September, if they are thinking October or November, it is somewhat late for the fighters because they have to prepare months for this fight. And we haven't heard anything new, except that they are still in the negotiation table and no timelines yet. I'm starting to believed that this fight is not going to be made at least for this year. Maybe Crawford and Spence will have to take the next couple of months and enjoy till the end of this year. Or announced the fight in October/November to be held early 2023.

You got a point but only Spence and Crawford knows if they will really have their fight this year, and if they both know that it will happen then a timeline in October and November can still be pursued because that said, they have already prepared for it and training with each other.

But yes, your point is really not far from reality because mostly, most fights are scheduled 3-4 months earlier from the day of their fight and it really looks like that there would be no undisputed fight in welterweight soon. If that's the case then I think Crawford should grab another fight because Spence is quite playing by the time.
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September 08, 2022, 11:31:58 PM
Of course this is mere speculation, because I have a lot of faith that it will be done, also September is a very good month to square the best world events in sports and give great joy to all fans and bettors.

Soon we will be down to the last quarter, if there's no announcement this month regarding the final date of the fight, then it's safe not to assume anymore that this fight is gonna happen this year. I know it's a big fight and we all want to see this, however, if they did not agree with the terms, then hyping this is just useless after all.
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September 08, 2022, 11:13:16 PM
^^ Venue is also very important for this fight, gamblers will come out on the fight week so hotels and casinos will have to take advantage of it. Again, we have seen Crawford and Floyd in the public together and I reckon it could be in Floyd's hometown and for sure Floyd as well might be indirectly making money out of it. Good if they can add good undercard in this fight, but the selling point is still the main fight. Knowing how deep PBC's stable though, maybe they will have another big name to be included here.
It would be nice if they will have a good undercard, since it's a big fight, they should entertain the crown with a good undercard. I can't wait to see this fight but until now promoters' have not stated yet the date and venue of the fight. I understand what they are doing, it's probably their marketing trick so people will continue talking about this fight.

I echo your sentiment. It might be possible that the promoters are really observing how fans will demand for this

possible upcoming fight. Both Crawford and Spence do have fans that will be glad to see the fight live or even in PPV. It should be great
if we will good undercards fight while waiting for the big event.

Still, in the process, I guess, negotiations are rolling and everything will be depends on how both camps together with the handlers
will announce the date and the venue.

Building a hype towards rumors is how they can test the waters on the way their fans react to this match. And since this already create huge noise maybe we can see this match up to happen. Also I'm sure this one will get huge global sales since both of the fighters are famous and a hot piece right now in boxing world so this one most provably can sold huge volume of tickets and this one will take advantage by their promoters.
It is a fact that the fans will echo this fight and exaggerate, each one has many fans and followers who will go for their favorite boxers, but technically it is something else, maybe you can see the strategy, the manner and style of fight, this is something that undoubtedly affects every fight, I am a person who likes to see numbers, statistics, see where the betting trend is going, but I like to do my own research, I look for some close up of the boxers in their training, interviews, every detail that I can see and take advantage of to help me make a decision, even the previous fights and see how they did, they are short details but I think it's worth it.

For now, let's just wait for some final announcements as I heard that they are already nearing the end of their discussion and just prepping the undercard fights to maximize the revenue.

That specific update was I think released last month or about 2 weeks ago and I've heard they are looking forward to making the fight happen somewhere in October or November, so I reckon that by the end of this month they can already announce the final details to make the fight happen in the same month when they envisioned it. Also, to at least give the people some time to prepare everything prior to the fight date and of course some final preparations for both camps.

It's now September, if they are thinking October or November, it is somewhat late for the fighters because they have to prepare months for this fight. And we haven't heard anything new, except that they are still in the negotiation table and no timelines yet. I'm starting to believed that this fight is not going to be made at least for this year. Maybe Crawford and Spence will have to take the next couple of months and enjoy till the end of this year. Or announced the fight in October/November to be held early 2023.

Do you think that fight will not happen? I'm waiting but I think they can give the surprise for December, I don't know, but it's very particular this year, because we have to remember that the QATAR World Cup will be held and this is something that will attract many people, for that reason they will be so pending the World Cup, things are usually like that, that is why I think that this fight will take place.

Of course this is mere speculation, because I have a lot of faith that it will be done, also September is a very good month to square the best world events in sports and give great joy to all fans and bettors.
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September 08, 2022, 12:57:11 PM
For now, let's just wait for some final announcements as I heard that they are already nearing the end of their discussion and just prepping the undercard fights to maximize the revenue.

That specific update was I think released last month or about 2 weeks ago and I've heard they are looking forward to making the fight happen somewhere in October or November, so I reckon that by the end of this month they can already announce the final details to make the fight happen in the same month when they envisioned it. Also, to at least give the people some time to prepare everything prior to the fight date and of course some final preparations for both camps.

It's now September, if they are thinking October or November, it is somewhat late for the fighters because they have to prepare months for this fight. And we haven't heard anything new, except that they are still in the negotiation table and no timelines yet. I'm starting to believed that this fight is not going to be made at least for this year. Maybe Crawford and Spence will have to take the next couple of months and enjoy till the end of this year. Or announced the fight in October/November to be held early 2023.
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September 08, 2022, 12:34:01 PM
For now, let's just wait for some final announcements as I heard that they are already nearing the end of their discussion and just prepping the undercard fights to maximize the revenue.

That specific update was I think released last month or about 2 weeks ago and I've heard they are looking forward to making the fight happen somewhere in October or November, so I reckon that by the end of this month they can already announce the final details to make the fight happen in the same month when they envisioned it. Also, to at least give the people some time to prepare everything prior to the fight date and of course some final preparations for both camps.
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September 08, 2022, 12:25:50 PM
Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.

They already know about that fact and they cannot deny that their idol was once a marathon runner inside the boxing ring against a much older Manny Pacquiao and their fight was already called years earlier when Pacquiao was a bit younger but Mayweather didn't go along that discussion as he knew that a prime Pacquiao will definitely stain his record.


We can't do anything about that as we didn't witness anything as Mayweather is wise enough not to fight the prime Pacquiao   

and also not to give him a chance for a rematch. Even more fans are calling for this to happen, though for fans, a win is a win

whatever way the fighter did it, consider it strategy even he keeps on avoiding Pacquiao's attacks, run and jabs strategy

very effective and give him that win. Moving back to Crawford and Spence, I'm looking to see both fighters to be more

aggressive and ready to throw counter punches to KO their opponents.

I can't argue more about that because you're right, a win is a win, even if we turn the world upside down Grin Mayweather was intelligent enough to maintain his record and has a right to call himself one of the best boxer in his generation. Well, as of now, both of them are now engaging for some exhibition fights and I do hope that their fate will once again cross soon.

Anyway, we are now approaching in mid September but still there are no new updates regarding the whereabouts of this fight and I seriously think that the people are now tired of waiting of this fight to happen. Sooner or later, these people will give up the idea that there could be a an undisputed fight happening in welterweight this year.
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September 07, 2022, 03:13:02 PM
Spence's doctor said that it will be critical for him if he pursues the fight because it will lead him to blindness as he can't really avoid getting punched in his eye.

They think it's a bluff although I don't see any reason why to think of that. People have just to move on that issue as it is now settled. Either way, if Pacquiao's fight against Spence pushes through, Pacman might suffer a much more painful defeat as he is not fully focused on his boxing. Ugas turned Pacquiao into a punching bag wherein Spence did the same against Ugas after the replacement.

Going back to the topic, Spence is not that coward but just playing business over legacy.

And that's the reality because if that fight wasn't cancelled, I'm afraid Pacquiao might get defeated by a way of KO/TKO instead of decision just like how Pacquiao got defeated by Ugas. Spence and his camp already provided a thorough reason why that fight didn't happened and he proved as well that he can still fight good after the surgery after all the speculations that he can't fight the same anymore because of that injury he acquired. Well, I'd say look at Ugas, it's like he's been swarmed by a group of Hornets or bees.
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September 07, 2022, 10:03:57 AM
It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.

I'm thinking the same way too, if there's no final announcement by the end of this month then I guess it's already safe to assume that there would be no undisputed match that would take place this year especially if their looking forward to make it happen in November. I know we've been expecting this to happen and we are even delighted when we knew that there's an ongoing discussion but I think we are near the point where we get tired of assuming.

Still, I will try to be optimistic that we will receive a good news this month and there is still time for them to make some final preparations (if there's any).

Oh well, who knows, maybe we will be surprised to here a final announcement coming from both parties that the fight has been made. Let's just think positive that they will settled their dispute regardless if it is the money or the place where the fight is going to be made. And the driving factors for this boxers and promoters is money so this fight can easily be made.
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September 07, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.

They already know about that fact and they cannot deny that their idol was once a marathon runner inside the boxing ring against a much older Manny Pacquiao and their fight was already called years earlier when Pacquiao was a bit younger but Mayweather didn't go along that discussion as he knew that a prime Pacquiao will definitely stain his record.


We can't do anything about that as we didn't witness anything as Mayweather is wise enough not to fight the prime Pacquiao   

and also not to give him a chance for a rematch. Even more fans are calling for this to happen, though for fans, a win is a win

whatever way the fighter did it, consider it strategy even he keeps on avoiding Pacquiao's attacks, run and jabs strategy

very effective and give him that win. Moving back to Crawford and Spence, I'm looking to see both fighters to be more

aggressive and ready to throw counter punches to KO their opponents.
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September 06, 2022, 01:30:47 PM
Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.

They already know about that fact and they cannot deny that their idol was once a marathon runner inside the boxing ring against a much older Manny Pacquiao and their fight was already called years earlier when Pacquiao was a bit younger but Mayweather didn't go along that discussion as he knew that a prime Pacquiao will definitely stain his record.
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September 06, 2022, 10:07:27 AM

Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.

Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.


Well apart from those things, I think that this time Crawford is much more hungry for victory and this is something that when a boxer is clear about it he would do anything to achieve it, to see Crawford how everything has gone, in his training and everything could I clearly said that Crawford, even if his body fails him, will not give up, maybe Spence has a better level in every way right now, but sometimes the desire can overcome anything, and above all the perseverance that he has had Crawford, I'm sure he's not going to waste the opportunity around the world, plus Crawford is much more complete and wants to show what he's made of.

I think it's more of Crawford really wanted to show that he is the best among the best in this welterweight. And I think some of us will agree to that and thinking that Crawford could be the slight favorite in this fight.

So that is also a good form of motivation (and so with Spence). And as discussed, they fought the same fighter in Porter and Crawford win is the most impressive, causing Porter to retire for good in boxing.

Precisely for that reason is that I would like Crawford not to lose, it would be a shame if he retired, I know that Spence is at another level and can make a difference with any boxer, for me Spence is one of the best boxers there is currently, I don't know how I would classify him, but he is a very good fighter. There has been a lot of speculation regarding Crawford, especially because of the weight, now if we get to see Crawford he really wants to fight and this is something that helps him a lot, now if we take into account the different bets that are going to generate thanks to this fight, the public will love this show.

It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.

I'm thinking the same way too, if there's no final announcement by the end of this month then I guess it's already safe to assume that there would be no undisputed match that would take place this year especially if their looking forward to make it happen in November. I know we've been expecting this to happen and we are even delighted when we knew that there's an ongoing discussion but I think we are near the point where we get tired of assuming.

Still, I will try to be optimistic that we will receive a good news this month and there is still time for them to make some final preparations (if there's any).

Yes, it's September, but nothing has been sighted yet, I think that the dfederation will not miss this opportunity, I am not very expert in marketing and everything that has to do with problems and marketing, but I consider it to be a great opportunity to do it right now, it is possible since December is beginning, if they do not do this fight now, it is likely that they will lose the opportunity, for October there are good fights, it would not be bad to put one like this in context, besides they would raise a large amount of money and the bets would be on another level, of course all this is in the hands of the managers and they are the ones who decide, although this time they should act quickly.
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September 02, 2022, 07:33:58 PM
Spence's doctor said that it will be critical for him if he pursues the fight because it will lead him to blindness as he can't really avoid getting punched in his eye.

They think it's a bluff although I don't see any reason why to think of that. People have just to move on that issue as it is now settled. Either way, if Pacquiao's fight against Spence pushes through, Pacman might suffer a much more painful defeat as he is not fully focused on his boxing. Ugas turned Pacquiao into a punching bag wherein Spence did the same against Ugas after the replacement.

Going back to the topic, Spence is not that coward but just playing business over legacy.
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September 02, 2022, 03:04:06 PM
True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

Spence is a coward, he does not fight the best to keep is undefeated record. He could have fought Pacman but cancel the fight to get an eye operation, and beat Ugas easily. For me, I now respect Crawford than Spence because he doesn't want to take risk and stake his undefeated record for this unification fight.

I understand your frustrations mate but there are a few details that you've said that I think you misunderstood like calling Spence a coward because he intentionally avoided a fight versus Manny Pacquiao last year and replaced by Ugas instead of him. There's a reason why Spence didn't fight Pacquiao and you mentioned it already why, I mean do you really expect him to fight even if his other eye is still in a healing process? Spence's doctor said that it will be critical for him if he pursues the fight because it will lead him to blindness as he can't really avoid getting punched in his eye.

For now, let's just wait for some final announcements as I heard that they are already nearing the end of their discussion and just prepping the undercard fights to maximize the revenue.
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September 02, 2022, 01:57:09 PM
It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.

I'm thinking the same way too, if there's no final announcement by the end of this month then I guess it's already safe to assume that there would be no undisputed match that would take place this year especially if their looking forward to make it happen in November. I know we've been expecting this to happen and we are even delighted when we knew that there's an ongoing discussion but I think we are near the point where we get tired of assuming.

Still, I will try to be optimistic that we will receive a good news this month and there is still time for them to make some final preparations (if there's any).
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September 02, 2022, 05:27:31 AM
The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

I'm also looking forward that this undisputed fight can happen this year but I think we are just going to be disappointed for waiting for this fight all this time, Spence's camp should give some update too because Spence's image is getting ugly as people thinks that he is the reason why this fight hasn't materialized yet.

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

That's right! Spence saying that he already have some back-up if this fight won't happen is bad news for the fans that have been waiting for this fight and that will scathe his image more in the public because it will be clear that he is trying to avoid Crawford at this point. Spence Jr. is good that's why people are excited but he got some doubts that he can't take down the current Crawford, and now, he is starting to look like Mayweather because like Mayweather he waited for Pacquiao to get more older before pursuing a fight.
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September 01, 2022, 08:30:22 PM
Spence is a coward, he does not fight the best to keep is undefeated record. He could have fought Pacman but cancel the fight to get an eye operation, and beat Ugas easily. For me, I now respect Crawford than Spence because he doesn't want to take risk and stake his undefeated record for this unification fight.

Before a certain fight, both boxers are checked if they are healthy enough to fight. The eye operation is being advised to Spence that's why let's not say he used that as an excuse for not fighting Manny Pacquiao. About his story with Crawford, maybe the best term is dodging and not being a coward. Crawford before is also under the shadow of top ranks that's why he didn't get his preferred match, especially against Spence.

Moving forward, should be no coward or something else as Spence and Crawford will now face each other finally and the possibility is high.

Wait, we shouldn't put the word coward here they are all after the money because their health is always on the line in every fight. Spence fight with Pacman has been canceled because of his eye operation that is true and it doesn't mean that he is avoiding Manny at all cost. That's what we perceived it though he doesn't want to have a piece of Crawford because he thinks that he might lost. But what if he get a good offer? I think he will without a heart beat sign the contract. But for now, maybe the offer is not that good and so the stalling game begins. Who will go and bite on the bluff of either side?
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September 01, 2022, 08:22:39 PM
It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.
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