Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 16. (Read 8566 times)

They are not giving our expectation, it should be the best of the best, and if one of them will say now, it only means that he is not a real champion and he is not up for a challenge. I like to believe that it's gonna happen this year, but just like you, I'm slowly losing hope.

I know that is a tentative date, but they keep on floating that one to the fans and they want us to believed that indeed the fight is going to happen that time. But so far, there is no official announcement from either camp. So yes as a fans, we are all losing patience because we wanted to see who is the best super welterweight right now. They are the only 2 fighters in that division that can claim to that title and we want to see this fight happened and don't keep up hanging around for so long.

If they can't make it to the two tentative dates, of Nov. 12 and 19, then I doubt that this fight could ever be made this year.

As others said, those who dates are very close, as we are near the end of the month of September and this fighter needs 2 months to prepare, not just training, but they are obliged to come out and talk to the media about their fight. So those two dates are not going to be met. December might be too close, and perhaps they will rather have the holidays. So most likely the fight will be next year.

Both champs need proper trainings though they have that routine but coming to a big fight.
They needed to have enough time for good preparations and to assess what fighting strategy to use.

November might be adjusted unless they already agree behind the door, and they are just making sure all the details
inside the contract are being reviewed well.

For the fans, as long as the fight will take place wherever it is and whenever it is, still a good fight and worth the wait.

There are rumors that there is a rematch clause. The way things are happening, it looks like Bud is sacrificing a lot just to make this fight become a reality. It is possible that the rematch clause is only given to Spence probably because he's the one prolonging this fight for many years. Time is not on Bud's side, he's nearly a year inactive and is already 35 years old, he needs to give in to nearly all of Spence's demands if he really wanted to become undisputed at welterweight before moving up to super welterweight. And Bud is currently without a promoter and a network after leaving Top Rank, so expect PBC and Showtime or Fox a little biased towards their fighter Spence.

If there is a rematch clause, then a rematch should happen first because undisputed Charlo is 7 pounds north. Charlo, Tank, Spence, and AB used to be very good friends, although there was a fallout between Tank and AB, I believe Jermell and Spence are still very good friends. But even if they are very close friends, I believe Charlo vs Spence is more doable than Charlo vs Bud. Spence already mentioned moving up in weight in the last few years although he never mentioned Charlo's name Currently, all the belts at 154 are owned by his close friend. I think it was Jermell (or maybe Spence) in an interview that mentioned that he is willing to fight his dear friend when the price is right. And the fact that Charlo and Spence are with PBC then it is more doable if both are serious.

Whereas Jermell Charlo already mentioned that he will not give Bud a free automatic shot at the 154 undisputed belts. He wants Bud to climb the rankings and earned his shot at the division. Although a WBO champion has the right to request to fight the other WBO champions in different divisions. This means Bud as the current WBO welterweight champion can actually activate his right to fight Charlo at 154. If Bud beats Spence pretty easily, I believe Charlo will vacate his WBO belt at 154 or maybe vacate all the belts at 154 and move up to 160.

Yes, and that's what I don't like, because Mayweather clearly came across as a scaredy for me, and a scaredy isn't worthy of being a boxing champion, these things are what shouldn't be allowed, because if Mayweather wants to believe he's the best of all boxers should leave those fears and defend their titles every time a boxer challenges him, there is nothing better than a boxer being the challenger and whoever defends the title wins, because history can be written as that boxer who was never afraid nothing or no one, at least I have a very bad taste that Pacquiao has not had his well-deserved revenge for an initial fight that left me with many doubts.


Well, I had also heard that tentatively that date is very likely to happen, and that's not bad, it's long before the start of the World Cup and it may be that this fight is an appetizer to what will be endless emotions at the end of the year, So that date is not so bad, if I would like it to be before the World Cup, because when the World Cup in Qatar starts it will be something from another world, and most people will have their attention monopolized only there, that does not mean that they will leave boxing to one side, but it will be more difficult to attract bettors, since the majority will be watching the football matches and that is if there will be bets.

This may be interesting information:

SHOWDOWN Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford date: UK start time, live stream, undercard, ring walks and how to watch undisputed welterweight fight in Las Vegas




Source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1196131/errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-date-uk-start-time-ringwalks-undercard-live-stream-tv-channel-undisputed-welterweight-fight/

There were two tentative dates that came out, one is November 12 and the other is November 19. Las Vegas was also the rumored venue. But again, no signed contract no fight taking place. Although there seems to be no insurmountable obstacle that is hindering the fight from happening, there must still be certain details that are ironed out until now.

So far, I don't think the fight will take place in November. September is about to end. Both fighters will need more than 2 months for all the preparations and neither will formally start training until the contracts are signed.

I think that was only a tentative date, it's not official yet that's why we are still discussing on when they will make the official announcement. Some are saying this fight will push through this year, but until now there's still no announcement so I think we are losing patience here.

Yes and so we shouldn't be get as excited though, there are still a lot of things that the camps need to settle in writing. And so there is no still sign contract, everything that the media has reported, nothing concrete about this fight.

They have the date of Nov 19 if I'm not mistaken, but it can be taken by anyone if they don't reach an agreement as early as November as there will be no time left to prepare.

But until and unless an agreement is reached, this will only remain to be a dream match in the sport of boxing. And the final agreement isn't just something that even both fighters verbally agree to. It will have to be in the form of contract signing. Until a contract is agreed to by affixing their signatures, nothing is final. So dates, venues, purse-split, etc don't mean anything if in the end either one of them won't sign. But I hope both of their camps would also take into consideration the strong demand of the boxing fans. And that's to make this fight happen.

No idea what are those legal languages, but for layman's term, it could be the split of the purse in the fight. And if there is a rematch clause, what will be the new split then. It should be very clear on both sides and we all know that this involves a lot of money so they need to be very clear about it.

Regarding the rematch, I do believed it was mentioned in the report that they will do a second fight. So I think they will remain at 147 lbs and then so how it goes after that.

A well-deserve treats coming from both camps, by announcing the dates it will save the fans time and money to allocate for this fight.

I'm pretty sure that there are lots of fans who really wanted to see these two champs inside the ring fighting.

No doubt it can be a fight of the year, both are known to be undefeated and the belts that in stake, something that a fighter would
really try everything to win.

As a knowledgeable in boxing, do you think that regardless of who will win on this match between Spence and Crawford, they will face Jermell Charlo next at the super middleweight?

Or a rematch is bound to happen first?

I really like that this fight between Spence and Crawford should happen now to now end the issues of who's the best in the Welterweight and finally will move on to their next plan.

EDIT: I saw this on the news,

"Coppinger did note the contract has not yet been signed by Crawford or Spence as their lawyers "clean up" some of the legal language in the agreement.

Any ideas or thoughts on what are those legal languages on the agreement that they need to clean?

After this secret conversation, I hope the final decision will now be officially signed.

We are waiting for this fight for several months. They should treat the boxing community with a good news.

For now, that was the latest and good progress of the fight.

Anyways, that news won't come out for anything. We can really expect that this fight will happen this year.

I don't see with this positive news recently, that the fight won't materialize to happen this year.

I definitely agree on that mate! Even though we don't know for sure but surely Crawford having a 40 percent of the purse is already a good thing for their camp because Spence has managed to put more food on the table that is why he is in the A-side, but anything lower than that? I don't think that the fight would be even possible. Anyway, it has been reported that both sides already agreed verbally and what's left to do is the signing of contract, maybe this week.

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We don't know what happened in the negotiation, because they kept most of the details the most important thing now is the fight will finally push through, the Canelo - GGG did not live up to our expectations I'm sure this fight will, and what a way to set the date, at the last quarter of the year if there's enough action, drama and it lives up to the hype then this fight could possibly be one of the candidates for the fight of the year.

I'd been annoyed by the prolonged negotiations. For me, the fight is not yet done until fully signed. In the end, it is Bud that will give up too much to Spence. Bud refused PBC's earlier 2 fight deal in which the 2nd fight would be against Spence. Bud argued that there is no need for him to face Swift Garcia and wanted Spence right away and it actually makes sense. But now Bud is inactive for nearly a year. Although he may be right, if he ended up knocking out Swift Garcia then there are more reasons for Spence to avoid him. So Bud is 35 years old and inactive for a year, I'm not giving Spence 100% credit if he beats Bud.

The way PBC is treating Crawford, I don't they will be able to sign him if he beats Spence except for a 1 or 2 fights deal that would guarantee a title shot against undisputed super middleweight champion Jermell Charlo. After that, I think he is headed to DAZN.

If that is true, then Crawford really wanted to make this fight happen despite getting the low income in this fight. Therefore, if Spence won't gonna agree with it and he will still decline until they get old and finally retire from boxing, then the blame is on Spence. I mean, come on man, this is actually a slap in the face to him because this is how Crawford really wanted to prove to the world that he can also beat Spence with no problem just like how he beat his past opponents.

What was the split Crawford agreed? did he agree about getting 40% only of the total revenue? If that's true then Spence has no excuse not to get this fight into reality as despite it's an undisputed championship fight, Crawford still give him an edge on the revenue split.