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September 19, 2022, 05:45:10 AM
Yes, we don't really know what the exact split are, unless it will be reveal later. But the point is that Crawford has agreed already on what should be the split in principle. Each legal representative is just going to iron out things including the rematch clause, where it mentioned that the winner will get the lion share in the rematch. So this is also one of our wish list for sure, as this could be a unification bout in the 147 lbs division in the last 10 years. And this I'm not sure, Crawford unified the 140 lbs, and if he wins against Spence, perhaps he will be the first man to do it in two different weight classes.
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September 18, 2022, 06:52:55 PM
They already build the hype train, fans are waiting, social media are exploding and having their own predictions as how the fight is going to turn out an who is the winner. They just have to sit down so that we will see this fight really happening this year or the next. And the timing of the release of the statement, this is Canelo and GGG week because they will have the fight.

Even though it's not sure yet that this fight will happen, there's already hype. That's how big this match is as many fans are really waiting.

But I think we should not worry about this fight now as it's now more close to happening.

If the fight will be in November, expect the news next month.
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September 18, 2022, 06:34:51 PM
35%-40% of the purse is a good deal for Crawford, IMO.  Anything lower beyond that will make the fight almost impossible,

Since they will not disclose to the public what the purse split should look like, we can safely assume that Crawford might get the 60/40 split since the fight will surely happen. Crawford, even how hungry to face Spence will not agree on below 40% share.

Seeing this recent news related to the fight, we can give 90% that the fight will really happen on November 19 this year.

after the trilogy of canelo vs GGG, we are now looking forward to another great fight this year. so hopefully, each camp will iron out things here so they can finally announce this fight to the boxing fans. i am certain that this fight will be sold out. and for sure, each boxer will receive a huge payout of this career. spence will be the favourite though crawford being the underdog, is not bad. as it is already expected. but wonder what is the gap of odds will they give for this fight?
legendary
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September 18, 2022, 06:27:55 PM
35%-40% of the purse is a good deal for Crawford, IMO.  Anything lower beyond that will make the fight almost impossible,

Since they will not disclose to the public what the purse split should look like, we can safely assume that Crawford might get the 60/40 split since the fight will surely happen. Crawford, even how hungry to face Spence will not agree on below 40% share.

Seeing this recent news related to the fight, we can give 90% that the fight will really happen on November 19 this year.
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September 18, 2022, 04:03:33 PM
Although the exact purse splitting wasn't reported but it was stated here in this link that Crawford will receive less that's why the fight took longer to make, some speculated that he will receive somewhere 35 to 40 percent of the purse but we cannot say that for sure. Also, there's a rematch clause that the loser can exercise in any time they intended and the winner of the said fight will earn more revenue for the second fight.

35%-40% of the purse is a good deal for Crawford, IMO.  Anything lower beyond that will make the fight almost impossible, but as the news said, their legal team are now preparing the document since they already to the terms in principle.  So we just need to sit back and relax and wait for the finality of the said deal hopefully both party agree and sign the deal.  If the deal went through, we are again in for possible fight of the year event.

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BoxingScene.com has learned that talks between Errol Spence and Terence Crawford have resulted in both fighters agreeing to terms in principle. The matter is now in the hands of their respective legal teams to button up final details, with hopes that a deal will be signed by both parties in the coming days.
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September 18, 2022, 02:34:31 PM
There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.

It's either that Spence really doesn't want the fight or his team, or they are trying to bluff Crawford with much higher split in the fight. But 60-40 in favor of Errol is already a good split and if Crawford is going to accept it then good.

But so far all we heard is that they agreed verbally? That is still very far from making this fight. They did to do it asap, everyone is waiting for it. After GGG vs Canelo, there will be no super fight in the calendar.

Until now Crawford has not made a statement regarding that 60:40 split, if he will announce that he is okay with that split, then we can conclude that it was only Spence who is trying to avoid him because he maybe believes that he cannot beat Crawford.

Although the exact purse splitting wasn't reported but it was stated here in this link that Crawford will receive less that's why the fight took longer to make, some speculated that he will receive somewhere 35 to 40 percent of the purse but we cannot say that for sure. Also, there's a rematch clause that the loser can exercise in any time they intended and the winner of the said fight will earn more revenue for the second fight.
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September 17, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
Spence's doctor said that it will be critical for him if he pursues the fight because it will lead him to blindness as he can't really avoid getting punched in his eye.

They think it's a bluff although I don't see any reason why to think of that. People have just to move on that issue as it is now settled. Either way, if Pacquiao's fight against Spence pushes through, Pacman might suffer a much more painful defeat as he is not fully focused on his boxing. Ugas turned Pacquiao into a punching bag wherein Spence did the same against Ugas after the replacement.

Going back to the topic, Spence is not that coward but just playing business over legacy.

If in fact we can tell if Crawford starts attacking Spence in his eye, if so then that's his weakest point and I think Crawford will take advantage of that weakness, maybe that's why he wants to fight this fight as much as possible. fast, although it seems to me that it is a weakness that he should take advantage of, I would not do it in Crawford's position, I prefer to win properly, that is, with my own effort and not because of imminent weakness, I also know that there is a lot of money at stake, but I think a person's integrity comes first, and that's something Spence should keep in mind, I don't think he wants to risk going blind just from that fight.

There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.

It's either that Spence really doesn't want the fight or his team, or they are trying to bluff Crawford with much higher split in the fight. But 60-40 in favor of Errol is already a good split and if Crawford is going to accept it then good.

But so far all we heard is that they agreed verbally? That is still very far from making this fight. They did to do it asap, everyone is waiting for it. After GGG vs Canelo, there will be no super fight in the calendar.

Until now Crawford has not made a statement regarding that 60:40 split, if he will announce that he is okay with that split, then we can conclude that it was only Spence who is trying to avoid him because he maybe believes that he cannot beat Crawford.

I think Crawford will still grab the split offer regardless of its amount just to prove that he really wants to face Spence. If Spence still wouldn't agree on facing him, it would really prove that it's him who is avoiding this match. The decision on this split will only prove things clearly so we'll wait and see if Crawford would grab it.

No doubt he will accept it, both for Crawford and for Spence they need this fight, I don't know but seeing that they can do many things for this fight, many believe that Crawford is not interested, the truth is I don't know why they say, until now if he fights against Spence It is because he wants to have a greater reputation, some say that Spence will not give him a chance to breathe, I still cannot draw a conclusion about it, for me they are both good, and I think they are both at an adequate level, taking Canelo's , the fight is taking a turn very much in favor of Canelo, I see a much more mature Canelo and I see GGG very badly, he is very slow, this fight is undoubtedly being won by Canelo.
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September 17, 2022, 10:15:19 AM
There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.

It's either that Spence really doesn't want the fight or his team, or they are trying to bluff Crawford with much higher split in the fight. But 60-40 in favor of Errol is already a good split and if Crawford is going to accept it then good.

But so far all we heard is that they agreed verbally? That is still very far from making this fight. They did to do it asap, everyone is waiting for it. After GGG vs Canelo, there will be no super fight in the calendar.

Until now Crawford has not made a statement regarding that 60:40 split, if he will announce that he is okay with that split, then we can conclude that it was only Spence who is trying to avoid him because he maybe believes that he cannot beat Crawford.

I think Crawford will still grab the split offer regardless of its amount just to prove that he really wants to face Spence. If Spence still wouldn't agree on facing him, it would really prove that it's him who is avoiding this match. The decision on this split will only prove things clearly so we'll wait and see if Crawford would grab it.
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September 17, 2022, 07:07:08 AM
There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.

It's either that Spence really doesn't want the fight or his team, or they are trying to bluff Crawford with much higher split in the fight. But 60-40 in favor of Errol is already a good split and if Crawford is going to accept it then good.

But so far all we heard is that they agreed verbally? That is still very far from making this fight. They did to do it asap, everyone is waiting for it. After GGG vs Canelo, there will be no super fight in the calendar.

Until now Crawford has not made a statement regarding that 60:40 split, if he will announce that he is okay with that split, then we can conclude that it was only Spence who is trying to avoid him because he maybe believes that he cannot beat Crawford.
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September 17, 2022, 03:36:05 AM
There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.

It's either that Spence really doesn't want the fight or his team, or they are trying to bluff Crawford with much higher split in the fight. But 60-40 in favor of Errol is already a good split and if Crawford is going to accept it then good.

But so far all we heard is that they agreed verbally? That is still very far from making this fight. They did to do it asap, everyone is waiting for it. After GGG vs Canelo, there will be no super fight in the calendar.
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September 17, 2022, 03:32:08 AM
There is no question that Crawford would accept the lesser of the split. And he is fine with it so I guess that argument has been settled already. But there is the promotion and then the network that might be the stumbling block in this negotiations. But hopefully they can settle their difference just like any major fight that has happen in the past like Floyd vs Manny. They have to do it for the fans because there is a demand and the money that they are going to made is huge as well.
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September 17, 2022, 03:26:03 AM


Good to know that even way back it's a rumor that Crawford is okay with getting a much lesser slice

That's the only way to get did fight to happen, Spence's reasoning is he had more titles than Crawford so the ball is on Crawford really, he can get a good deal if he wins the fight as stipulated in the contract, and that's the reason why he agrees.

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but the fact that the fight will be pushed then fans are the winner here, as we will be able to see the clash of the champions
were many fans really wanted to see if who among these two champions is really the best from this division. I'll not think
of the rematch, yet I would like to enjoy watching them first inside the ring.

This has been a great year in boxing we have seen a lot of great fights in the past 9 months and the GGG - Canelo fight and this fight with Spence - Crawford is the most anticipated fight we will see what fight will be the fight of the year and the knock out of the year.
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September 17, 2022, 02:45:39 AM
It's almost a done deal Crawford will get less of the revenue split but if he wins and the loser triggers a rematch the winner will get a big share of the split on their next fight, yes, they have a rematch clause on their contract but will still depend on the outcome of the fight, but with these two fighters with a good stoppage record, I doubt it will end in a decision, its good that Crawford to get less in their revenue split just to get this fight going.

As expected from the start that Crawford might get the less split. Shouldn't be a problem for him as even before, he really wants to destroy Spence and settles everything even if it means receiving a less split. After all, if Crawford will able to win this match and a rematch clause will be activated by the loser, supposed to be Spence, the former will now get the large slice of the cake.

I'm sure whoever wins here, a rematch is more likely possible to happen. Even though I saw Spence not interested in the rematch in case he won this fight, having the much-shared split will make him accept the rematch. I'm seeing Floyd Mayweather Jr. on him that has a mindset that if the price is not right, he won't be interested.

Good to know that even way back it's a rumor that Crawford is okay with getting a much lesser slice

but the fact that the fight will be pushed then fans are the winner here, as we will be able to see the clash of the champions
where many fans really wanted to see if who among these two champions is really the best from this division. I'll not think
of the rematch, yet I would like to enjoy watching them first inside the ring.
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September 16, 2022, 08:44:01 PM


I'm not sure if this is the latest update though, we have heard this if I'm not mistaken, that these 2 have agreed already verbally when they won their respective bout. And that was months ago that's why the target date is November 19.

They already build the hype train, fans are waiting, social media are exploding and having their own predictions as how the fight is going to turn out an who is the winner. They just have to sit down so that we will see this fight really happening this year or the next. And the timing of the release of the statement, this is Canelo and GGG week because they will have the fight.

Yes its the latest update, they agree to the terms

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Errol Spence Jr and Terence Crawford have agreed to “all material terms” for a Nov. 19 fight, Mike Coppinger reports at ESPN.com, while Coppinger also notes that the deal has not yet been signed, though it’s expected it will be.

Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford deal agreed for Nov. 19

It's almost a done deal Crawford will get less of the revenue split but if he wins and the loser triggers a rematch the winner will get a big share of the split on their next fight, yes, they have a rematch clause on their contract but will still depend on the outcome of the fight, but with these two fighters with a good stoppage record, I doubt it will end in a decision, its good that Crawford to get less in their revenue split just to get this fight going.

However, you also need to consider that both of them have not been stopped or knocked out before in the whole of their professional careers and they are also both undefeated boxers. This might end with a decision and it might be a split decision. If we are lucky, hopefully the odds makers might think this will end with a knockout and make the fight over or under 7.5 rounds, where we will bet on over 7.5 hehehe.

In any case, I am very shocked that the managers and the promoters from both of their teams have found an agreement. But as a fan I am very happy to see this super fight occur between 2 kings of welterweight.

This should be the climax of their career where they could prove who the real undefeated is without any knockout record. I'm actually looking forward to this match. It will surely be one of the most exciting fights this year. Whatever the result is, I know that they're both prepared to win and own the title.
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September 16, 2022, 08:10:01 PM


I'm not sure if this is the latest update though, we have heard this if I'm not mistaken, that these 2 have agreed already verbally when they won their respective bout. And that was months ago that's why the target date is November 19.

They already build the hype train, fans are waiting, social media are exploding and having their own predictions as how the fight is going to turn out an who is the winner. They just have to sit down so that we will see this fight really happening this year or the next. And the timing of the release of the statement, this is Canelo and GGG week because they will have the fight.

Yes its the latest update, they agree to the terms

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Errol Spence Jr and Terence Crawford have agreed to “all material terms” for a Nov. 19 fight, Mike Coppinger reports at ESPN.com, while Coppinger also notes that the deal has not yet been signed, though it’s expected it will be.

Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford deal agreed for Nov. 19

It's almost a done deal Crawford will get less of the revenue split but if he wins and the loser triggers a rematch the winner will get a big share of the split on their next fight, yes, they have a rematch clause on their contract but will still depend on the outcome of the fight, but with these two fighters with a good stoppage record, I doubt it will end in a decision, its good that Crawford to get less in their revenue split just to get this fight going.

However, you also need to consider that both of them have not been stopped or knocked out before in the whole of their professional careers and they are also both undefeated boxers. This might end with a decision and it might be a split decision. If we are lucky, hopefully the odds makers might think this will end with a knockout and make the fight over or under 7.5 rounds, where we will bet on over 7.5 hehehe.

In any case, I am very shocked that the managers and the promoters from both of their teams have found an agreement. But as a fan I am very happy to see this superfight occur between 2 kings of welterweight.
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September 16, 2022, 05:51:16 PM
It's almost a done deal Crawford will get less of the revenue split but if he wins and the loser triggers a rematch the winner will get a big share of the split on their next fight, yes, they have a rematch clause on their contract but will still depend on the outcome of the fight, but with these two fighters with a good stoppage record, I doubt it will end in a decision, its good that Crawford to get less in their revenue split just to get this fight going.

As expected from the start that Crawford might get the less split. Shouldn't be a problem for him as even before, he really wants to destroy Spence and settles everything even if it means receiving a less split. After all, if Crawford will able to win this match and a rematch clause will be activated by the loser, supposed to be Spence, the former will now get the large slice of the cake.

I'm sure whoever wins here, a rematch is more likely possible to happen. Even though I saw Spence not interested in the rematch in case he won this fight, having the much-shared split will make him accept the rematch. I'm seeing Floyd Mayweather Jr. on him that has a mindset that if the price is not right, he won't be interested.
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September 16, 2022, 05:17:11 PM


I'm not sure if this is the latest update though, we have heard this if I'm not mistaken, that these 2 have agreed already verbally when they won their respective bout. And that was months ago that's why the target date is November 19.

They already build the hype train, fans are waiting, social media are exploding and having their own predictions as how the fight is going to turn out an who is the winner. They just have to sit down so that we will see this fight really happening this year or the next. And the timing of the release of the statement, this is Canelo and GGG week because they will have the fight.

Yes its the latest update, they agree to the terms

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Errol Spence Jr and Terence Crawford have agreed to “all material terms” for a Nov. 19 fight, Mike Coppinger reports at ESPN.com, while Coppinger also notes that the deal has not yet been signed, though it’s expected it will be.

Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford deal agreed for Nov. 19

It's almost a done deal Crawford will get less of the revenue split but if he wins and the loser triggers a rematch the winner will get a big share of the split on their next fight, yes, they have a rematch clause on their contract but will still depend on the outcome of the fight, but with these two fighters with a good stoppage record, I doubt it will end in a decision, its good that Crawford to get less in their revenue split just to get this fight going.
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September 16, 2022, 04:18:49 PM
I think we should better wait till there is an official announcement regarding the anticipated fight. Of course, it's good to hear that there are development from within. But the report say that they are still looking at the November 19 date which is very near and things are very iron out regarding the PPV and which network are going to cover this mega fight.

If they haven't announced it yet I don't think they will rush it by the middle of November.  Probably the biggest fight for both of them and boxing will want to suck out as much as they can from this fight.  At this point it would probably be sometime in 2023 but who knows.  Just sitting waiting patiently.

As for me, I don't think that it's a rush even they will push it on the speculated date on November 19 and announcement will be posted even on the last day of this month. No problem about building a hype in attempt to lure more viewers since this is a mega fight and talks about this fight started way back several months ago. I even think that the moment this fight will be officially materialized and announcement will now be all over the world, ticket sales will be sold out might be within just 2-3 days.

Agree with you though, just sit and wait patiently.

I'm not sure if this is the latest update though, we have heard this if I'm not mistaken, that these 2 have agreed already verbally when they won their respective bout. And that was months ago that's why the target date is November 19.

They already build the hype train, fans are waiting, social media are exploding and having their own predictions as how the fight is going to turn out an who is the winner. They just have to sit down so that we will see this fight really happening this year or the next. And the timing of the release of the statement, this is Canelo and GGG week because they will have the fight.
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September 16, 2022, 04:02:13 PM

However, Spence made a big statement last April when he defeated Ugas via TKO because Spence said that he will come for Crawford's belt next. That's why are in this discussion now but unfortunately, the fight might not happen this year.

But was he really serious with his statement or did he just want to hype the match, I believe Crawford has been challenging Spence already before Spence beat Ugas, and we have not heard a response from him that he'll fight Crawford. If he really is serious to make this big fight happen, I think he should make it official so we will stop speculating.

They said the fight will happen this year, I have a little doubt it will happen.
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September 16, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
Crawford should start pressuring the opposite camp because he is getting old and he haven't had some fights this year too.

The fact that both parties "verbally agreed" now that they will push the fight on November 19 and it's a headline on most boxing news articles and websites, that's a good sign that there might be only a few problems now to deal with before the release of the official announcement.

It's good progress to hear compared to before when both camps are just being silent and almost no news is available to the public.

Anyways, Floyd Mayweather Jr. said way back months that if the fight will go official, we will hear it from him first or from Fighthype.
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