[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 33.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

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Quote from: stadus on July 21, 2022, 05:52:04 PM

Spence clearly said that he's going to move and have a fight with Crawford for the undisputed title but that doesn't mean that Spence is in a hurry or he's excited about it. Crawford on the other hand is trying to get the fight this year that's why he's giving a constant update to the boxing world to get the fans informed that Spence has yet that determined to get an early fight.

Either way, if the fight will happen this year or next year, one thing is for sure, both boxers' next fight is between just the two of them. I don't care for delays (but shouldn't be too long) or what but as long as no other opponents are on their way, that should be worth waiting.

Still, there's not much difference if the fight will happen this year or next. Surely, they won't take a break for 2 years so no excuse next year.

That period of delay should be worth waiting for. I just hope that the next official news will be that the fight is now pushed and not the other way around which is canceled and won't happen anymore. That's disappointing news to the whole boxing community.

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Well, I hope that it's not the case because admit that I'm not that optimistic and patient because I'm very excited and looking forward see this fight this year, October hopefully just like what they proposed and I hope that there will be some good announcements for us in the coming days or weeks.

Spence should release a statement too so that his fans and the whole boxing community will know why it is taking longer for them to reach an agreement because he will be blamed for this as Crawford has been always in the spotlight and giving some updates about the fight that they are still on the process but nothing has yet been made.

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Quote from: Jating on July 21, 2022, 06:00:50 PM

^^Well that's what we fans are seeing it, Spence is afraid to face Crawford and get his first lost. Because him or part of his team keeps delaying it. And then goes to the public saying otherwise, but then Crawford will contradict all they said. So we become so frustrated with him not making the promises after the Ugas fight that he will fight Crawford for the unification before his desire to move up in 154 lbs to chase more money against Charlo.

Looks more like a drama, there's a clip talking about Crawford is afraid to fight Spence, while the other clip show Spence is afraid to fight Crawford lol. However, sooner or later we will see Spence vs Crawford will be happen 100% as long as both of them didn't lose.

Quote from: inthelongrun on July 23, 2022, 12:47:08 AM

It could be envy and jealousy on Spence's side. Because if Crawford wins the undisputed belts, he will become the first 2 division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. And then Crawford already mentioned before that he wants Spence ASAP so he can move up again and fight undisputed champion Jermell Charlo. Now imagine if Crawford beats Charlo too? That would be a hell of an achievement. That would make Crawford a 4 division lineal champion and the first ever 3 division undisputed champion. Although Charlo (a close friend of Spence) earlier already said that he will not give Crawford the shot. But Crawford is the welterweight WBO champion and can exercise a mandatory on any WBO champions. So most likely Charlo will just vacate the WBO belt to block Crawford's legacy attempts.

That's too much and seems unrealistic he will fight Charlo in his first fight on light middleweight division because he's risking his whole reputation that has been built since his first fight on professional career. Canelo is the prove aka the best middleweight and super middleweight division can still have a problem when he move to the next division and fight a champion.

He need to start from the bottom and collecting 1-2 belts first rather than fight an undisputed champion.

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Quote from: Jating on July 21, 2022, 06:00:50 PM

^^Well that's what we fans are seeing it, Spence is afraid to face Crawford and get his first lost. Because him or part of his team keeps delaying it. And then goes to the public saying otherwise, but then Crawford will contradict all they said. So we become so frustrated with him not making the promises after the Ugas fight that he will fight Crawford for the unification before his desire to move up in 154 lbs to chase more money against Charlo.

It could be envy and jealousy on Spence's side. Because if Crawford wins the undisputed belts, he will become the first 2 division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. And then Crawford already mentioned before that he wants Spence ASAP so he can move up again and fight undisputed champion Jermell Charlo. Now imagine if Crawford beats Charlo too? That would be a hell of an achievement. That would make Crawford a 4 division lineal champion and the first ever 3 division undisputed champion. Although Charlo (a close friend of Spence) earlier already said that he will not give Crawford the shot. But Crawford is the welterweight WBO champion and can exercise a mandatory on any WBO champions. So most likely Charlo will just vacate the WBO belt to block Crawford's legacy attempts.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

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I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

But if he wanted to cement his legacy then he should fight Crawford and see who is the best between them. They are in their primes and the winner will surely be recognized as the best and unified champion, that is a great accomplished for either one of them, more on Spence.

Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

Right, we are all eagerly waiting for any news, just even a slight news telling us that the negotiations is ongoing and it might be close to be signed by both parties.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 22, 2022, 03:58:17 PM

I really don't know why there's still no positive update about the whereabouts of this fight and I also think that they are way past the purse split because there is no doubt that Spence should have the bigger slice, unless if they are now asking for 65 or 70 Huh

which makes it unreasonable, I hope that is not the case why there's no movement.
Crawford has been through many interviews already since the talking started and tried to put some pressure on this fight but I guess, Spence's side is just taking the time.

Or maybe it was us who has the problem here? We are asking for it in rush and don't take things easily.

What if there are only a few tweaks needed. Besides, it's still early to announce if the fight will take place 2-3 months from now. That's the usual timeframe.

There are even no reports that this fight is bound not to happen. Let's trust the progress.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

I don't think it that way. If Spence is not willing to risk his records, then why does he plan on moving up where there are even lots of boxers that are even much better compared to Terence Crawford. There are more dangerous boxers that Spence will face once he moved up that can destroy his record.

It's not about the Spence record but there are other thing/s they are addressing why the fight is still not official.

For what's that thing, we don't know, and all we need is to wait.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 20, 2022, 10:46:39 PM

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

Both are undefeated. Both are in their career's prime. Both are top pound-for-pound fighters. Both are very popular. And most of all, both want the fight to happen.

I really don't know why there's still no positive update about the whereabouts of this fight and I also think that they are way past the purse split because there is no doubt that Spence should have the bigger slice, unless if they are now asking for 65 or 70 Huh

which makes it unreasonable, I hope that is not the case why there's no movement.
Crawford has been through many interviews already since the talking started and tried to put some pressure on this fight but I guess, Spence's side is just taking the time.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

Both are risking their undefeated record so it's a fair game, however, if Spence believe that Crawford might beat him and he will just avoid that to happen, then this fight is not going to happen as Spence will use every excuse in this world just to make sure the fight will not happen.

They are both undefeated so for me this is gonna Good fight for the both fighter to challenge their skill and I'm their career in boxing, we all know they have both chance of winning but Spence is more favorite right now. But if spence make some excuses about this fight I think thats not reasonable he must fight against other undefeated to know where his skill can go far if he will be still the undefeated or he will got his first lost.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 22, 2022, 08:21:54 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

I don't buy the reason that he is not willing to take the risk of being defeated. For me it's more about the money, who is getting the bigger share.

So that if ever he will lose, then still a good amount of money will be enough, like $6 million onwards. And this is same with Crawford as well. But we all speculate that he will be getting like 45-40 split but he will be the favorite in this fight or it could be that there will be a rematch clause, let's see.

First, it should satisfy their expectation like the sharing because the loser of this fight will definitely fall in the ranking and will lose some belts, so their future is at stake here. Crawford will likely get the lower rate, and since we haven't heard that he would accept lower than 50/50, then it's hard to expect the fight will happen anytime soon.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

I don't buy the reason that he is not willing to take the risk of being defeated. For me it's more about the money, who is getting the bigger share.

So that if ever he will lose, then still a good amount of money will be enough, like $6 million onwards. And this is same with Crawford as well. But we all speculate that he will be getting like 45-40 split but he will be the favorite in this fight or it could be that there will be a rematch clause, let's see.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 22, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

Both are risking their undefeated record so it's a fair game, however, if Spence believe that Crawford might beat him and he will just avoid that to happen, then this fight is not going to happen as Spence will use every excuse in this world just to make sure the fight will not happen.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 21, 2022, 08:19:49 PM

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

Maybe that's one of the reason, Spence is not willing to risk his records or someone from his camp sees that possibility.

Many fans are hoping and still waiting for the final date but there's nothing yet as negotiations are still ongoing,
it's a disappointing outcome in case the fight won't materialize since it has been expected to know who's the
best fighter in this weight division. Still positive that both camps will settle and arrange the signing.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 20, 2022, 10:46:39 PM

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

We hope that the surprising news will not be like that. It's really a waste and somehow disappointing if the current Top 2 Welterweights in the whole world will not meet and face each other in the ring. We don't want to see another delay like what happened to Pacquiao and Mayweather bout which take several years in the making and both are not in their prime anymore when they fought each other.

We need to see Spence and Crawford battle each other in their prime.
We want to see who's gonna take their first loss.
We want to see who will unify the 4 Welterweight titles and will become the undisputed champion in that division.

I hope both sides will now officially settled everything and bring entertainment to all boxing fans.

I agree. Although that Pacquiao vs Mayweather match was a big thing in the history of boxing, it wasn't as exciting as the prospect of Crawford vs Spence happening soon. For one, that fight indeed happened when both boxers were not anymore in their prime. And we also know that in that fight one will give all his punches and may even try to look for a knockout while the other will do all his running and will try not to take even a single punch. Both Crawford and Spence are knockout artists. This must be a better match.

That fight between Manny vs Mayweather was hyped but in the actual fight, it was a boring one. We believe that it's going to be fun and we try to convince ourselves but Mayweather is really a boring fighter, and since he was the one dictating the tempo of the fight, you already know what to expect.

This one sure is firepower.

Both offensive fighters are going against each other, we called this a "WAR".

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 20, 2022, 10:46:39 PM

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

We hope that the surprising news will not be like that. It's really a waste and somehow disappointing if the current Top 2 Welterweights in the whole world will not meet and face each other in the ring. We don't want to see another delay like what happened to Pacquiao and Mayweather bout which take several years in the making and both are not in their prime anymore when they fought each other.

We need to see Spence and Crawford battle each other in their prime.
We want to see who's gonna take their first loss.
We want to see who will unify the 4 Welterweight titles and will become the undisputed champion in that division.

I hope both sides will now officially settled everything and bring entertainment to all boxing fans.

I agree. Although that Pacquiao vs Mayweather match was a big thing in the history of boxing, it wasn't as exciting as the prospect of Crawford vs Spence happening soon. For one, that fight indeed happened when both boxers were not anymore in their prime. And we also know that in that fight one will give all his punches and may even try to look for a knockout while the other will do all his running and will try not to take even a single punch. Both Crawford and Spence are knockout artists. This must be a better match.

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Quote from: harizen on July 21, 2022, 06:59:11 PM

Quote from: stadus on July 21, 2022, 05:52:04 PM

Spence clearly said that he's going to move and have a fight with Crawford for the undisputed title but that doesn't mean that Spence is in a hurry or he's excited about it. Crawford on the other hand is trying to get the fight this year that's why he's giving a constant update to the boxing world to get the fans informed that Spence has yet that determined to get an early fight.

Either way, if the fight will happen this year or next year, one thing is for sure, both boxers' next fight is between just the two of them. I don't care for delays (but shouldn't be too long) or what but as long as no other opponents are on their way, that should be worth waiting.

Still, there's not much difference if the fight will happen this year or next. Surely, they won't take a break for 2 years so no excuse next year.

That period of delay should be worth waiting for. I just hope that the next official news will be that the fight is now pushed and not the other way around which is canceled and won't happen anymore. That's disappointing news to the whole boxing community.

I like of you being positive mate, but like the rest of the boxing fans in the community, we are very eager to hear any news of the fight who stall it, what is the sticking point that both fighters agree and disagree (if the fight indeed will not happen this year).

And it seems that Spence is the brunt or taking most of the blame if this fight will be delayed. And he definitely doesn't like it was it will a dent on his name.

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Quote from: stadus on July 21, 2022, 05:52:04 PM

Spence clearly said that he's going to move and have a fight with Crawford for the undisputed title but that doesn't mean that Spence is in a hurry or he's excited about it. Crawford on the other hand is trying to get the fight this year that's why he's giving a constant update to the boxing world to get the fans informed that Spence has yet that determined to get an early fight.

Either way, if the fight will happen this year or next year, one thing is for sure, both boxers' next fight is between just the two of them. I don't care for delays (but shouldn't be too long) or what but as long as no other opponents are on their way, that should be worth waiting.

Still, there's not much difference if the fight will happen this year or next. Surely, they won't take a break for 2 years so no excuse next year.

That period of delay should be worth waiting for. I just hope that the next official news will be that the fight is now pushed and not the other way around which is canceled and won't happen anymore. That's disappointing news to the whole boxing community.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 20, 2022, 06:53:33 PM

Alright, any idea why the fight is delayed in the announcement? Just a wild guess everyone.

Or it's really considered delayed to this point even though the fight is expected to happen in October? Maybe are just in rush.

How about waiting for several weeks and extending our patience. We might get a surprising good news in the weeks after.

Well, I'm still hoping that they can reach an agreement and release a final announcement about its fight details somewhere before mid of August. Although, it's been quite a while now since they had a discussion and Crawford revealed that nothing was ever set and no details were written in stones as he said and that could mean something like Spence is trying to duck and stall some time for his benefit.

Also, maybe Crawford was in a kind of rush because he knew that time is not on his side that's why he releasing unnecessary statements to put pressure into Spence. Just maybe.

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^^Well that's what we fans are seeing it, Spence is afraid to face Crawford and get his first lost. Because him or part of his team keeps delaying it. And then goes to the public saying otherwise, but then Crawford will contradict all they said. So we become so frustrated with him not making the promises after the Ugas fight that he will fight Crawford for the unification before his desire to move up in 154 lbs to chase more money against Charlo.

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It really seems to me that Spence was literally playing the game against Crawford while the latter is still hot and ripe, I get that Spence was trying to be tough and all to maintain his posture and of course the hype. But he cannot really hide his true agenda that he is still trying to duck and avoid all these time because Crawford is much more superior than him this time.

We don't know but as far as current stories are concerned, both camps are really interested in this fight, especially Spence Jr. who even pointed out that Terence Crawford is his next opponent before moving up.

He said that there are 2 more fights in the Welterweight before he moves upon which the first one is against Ugas which is now settled and the next is Crawford.

Before, maybe it was understandable that he is trying to play with Crawford by dodging the fight but currently, Spence has no choice but to fight Crawford as that's the only thing that needs to be done - to unify all the championship in the Welterweight.

But that doesn't take away the fact that he's trying to stall some time to get an advantage against Crawford, if the fight will purse this year, I will surely side with Crawford of course but if this fight will be materialized next year in 1st quarter, I think I'll go for Spence for that at least re-consider my bet.

Spence clearly said that he's going to move and have a fight with Crawford for the undisputed title but that doesn't mean that Spence is in a hurry or he's excited about it. Crawford on the other hand is trying to get the fight this year that's why he's giving a constant update to the boxing world to get the fans informed that Spence has yet that determined to get an early fight.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 20, 2022, 04:38:07 PM

Boxing fans, will surely be disappointed if the fight are not going to happen this year, or at least being derailed because Spence is stalling the fight so that he can have advantage of Crawford getting older. We have discussed to death about the purse split and the PPv numbers and who will be the A-side. And we all agree that Spence should get the lion share. But if he is the one that doesn't want to make the fight this year, then for sure it will back fire on him and will criticized for waiting to long before agreeing to this fight.

No doubt, fans will be mad and criticize Spence for giving us all a ride for nothing. We saw how confident he made a statement after he won versus Ugas but we didn't saw this coming that he will still try to stall some time. Spence is clearly afraid for Crawford.

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We cannot be sure since the fight is not officially announced yet. The moment they will sign the contract, that's the time that we have to assume the fight is going to happen, if no contract, I'm afraid that we are just speculating.

That's the one thing that the whole community is waiting for, and they will not accept any further delay, they cannot wait for another year because both of their camps have their own plans, and they have to settle the score, like my previous post about this matchup, they have a lifetime to regret if this fight will not push through, they should go for it while they are on top of their career, there is no other legacy fight for both fighters like this one.

I hope the organization will make it a mandatory fight for both so they have no choice but to fight. The only reason why until now it's still not official is because of the money issue, as long as they will not agree with the sharing of revenue and their individual purse, this fight will not happen.

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