[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 34.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 21, 2022, 06:43:38 AM

We cannot be sure since the fight is not officially announced yet. The moment they will sign the contract, that's the time that we have to assume the fight is going to happen, if no contract, I'm afraid that we are just speculating.

That's the one thing that the whole community is waiting for, and they will not accept any further delay, they cannot wait for another year because both of their camps have their own plans, and they have to settle the score, like my previous post about this matchup, they have a lifetime to regret if this fight will not push through, they should go for it while they are on top of their career, there is no other legacy fight for both fighters like this one.

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 21, 2022, 05:50:32 AM

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 21, 2022, 03:23:05 AM

Well for those who want to hear what Crawford says about this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2CufWpkw8

And I would say that I will be positive that this fight is going to happen sooner than we all think. By the way I read Spence expressions and body language, there have been talks in the background that he can't tell right now because they are still working on it.

Well, it's good that Terence Crawford calmly says that he is now number one and it is clear that he is determined to prove it in a fight with Errol Spence Jr and all this gives hope that this fight will take place soon.

I think there's no conflict that might stop their fight so for sure this big fight will really happen since both of them is eager to prove that they are the number one fighter on their generation. Also for sure many boxing fans love to see this to happen since we can still say that each fight of this fighter is worth to see since they give quality performance which can satisfy their fans.

We cannot be sure since the fight is not officially announced yet. The moment they will sign the contract, that's the time that we have to assume the fight is going to happen, if no contract, I'm afraid that we are just speculating.

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Quote from: Daltonik on July 21, 2022, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on July 21, 2022, 03:23:05 AM

Well for those who want to hear what Crawford says about this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2CufWpkw8

And I would say that I will be positive that this fight is going to happen sooner than we all think. By the way I read Spence expressions and body language, there have been talks in the background that he can't tell right now because they are still working on it.

Well, it's good that Terence Crawford calmly says that he is now number one and it is clear that he is determined to prove it in a fight with Errol Spence Jr and all this gives hope that this fight will take place soon.

I think there's no conflict that might stop their fight so for sure this big fight will really happen since both of them is eager to prove that they are the number one fighter on their generation. Also for sure many boxing fans love to see this to happen since we can still say that each fight of this fighter is worth to see since they give quality performance which can satisfy their fans.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 21, 2022, 03:23:05 AM

Well for those who want to hear what Crawford says about this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2CufWpkw8

And I would say that I will be positive that this fight is going to happen sooner than we all think. By the way I read Spence expressions and body language, there have been talks in the background that he can't tell right now because they are still working on it.

Well, it's good that Terence Crawford calmly says that he is now number one and it is clear that he is determined to prove it in a fight with Errol Spence Jr and all this gives hope that this fight will take place soon.

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Well for those who want to hear what Crawford says about this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2CufWpkw8

And I would say that I will be positive that this fight is going to happen sooner than we all think. By the way I read Spence expressions and body language, there have been talks in the background that he can't tell right now because they are still working on it.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 21, 2022, 01:12:46 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 20, 2022, 10:46:39 PM

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

We hope that the surprising news will not be like that. It's really a waste and somehow disappointing if the current Top 2 Welterweights in the whole world will not meet and face each other in the ring. We don't want to see another delay like what happened to Pacquiao and Mayweather bout which take several years in the making and both are not in their prime anymore when they fought each other.

We need to see Spence and Crawford battle each other in their prime.
We want to see who's gonna take their first loss.
We want to see who will unify the 4 Welterweight titles and will become the undisputed champion in that division.

I hope both sides will now officially settled everything and bring entertainment to all boxing fans.

Right, and like the Pacman vs Floyd fight, we don't want to hear excuses specially who is going to lose on this fight as both of them are in their primes right now. We could have argument as to why someone lost the fight, but for excuses? we don't want to hear.

That's why everyone is really waiting that both sides have agreed on all the terms so that we boxing fans could be treated with the unification fight in 147 lbs that we haven't seen in years if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 20, 2022, 10:46:39 PM

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

We hope that the surprising news will not be like that. It's really a waste and somehow disappointing if the current Top 2 Welterweights in the whole world will not meet and face each other in the ring. We don't want to see another delay like what happened to Pacquiao and Mayweather bout which take several years in the making and both are not in their prime anymore when they fought each other.

We need to see Spence and Crawford battle each other in their prime.
We want to see who's gonna take their first loss.
We want to see who will unify the 4 Welterweight titles and will become the undisputed champion in that division.

I hope both sides will now officially settled everything and bring entertainment to all boxing fans.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:28:03 PM

Yeah no clue why it hasn't come together at this point. This is the fight not just us want to see but the boxing world wants to see. Best versus the best right. They can argue about purse until they are blue in the face but it seems there is more holding this up than just purse.

The concern related to purses etc. shouldn't be a big deal if that's the only thing they are addressing.

I believed too that there are other issues they are dealing with and not just the purse. I don't have any idea what are those though but I hope everything will be official now. Maybe they can also share with us those "problems" that makes the fight hanging until now.

Let's give this month for us to wait. We should expect to have an announcement by next month, August.

but i believe the situation here is more on purse split..thus, their respective promoters should set aside this aspect as it may hinder the two boxers to fight for their highest paying match. people are asking for it, so why delay for some reasons?
anyway, we will know their true sentiments here as it will come out for sure.

That's all we can do right now, sit and wait for the official announcement (if this is to be made).

Both wanted more money so who is going to give an inch? or if the promoters or networks are willing to shoulder the difference?

We are all anxious if this fight is going to happen or not.

It would be such a waste if this fight will not push through. This is going to be a mega fight. So in terms of demand from boxing fans all over the world, this fight should happen. In terms of revenue, it is not a problem either because this match will definitely make a lot of money.

Both are undefeated. Both are in their career's prime. Both are top pound-for-pound fighters. Both are very popular. And most of all, both want the fight to happen.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 20, 2022, 06:59:02 PM

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:28:03 PM

Yeah no clue why it hasn't come together at this point. This is the fight not just us want to see but the boxing world wants to see. Best versus the best right. They can argue about purse until they are blue in the face but it seems there is more holding this up than just purse.

The concern related to purses etc. shouldn't be a big deal if that's the only thing they are addressing.

I believed too that there are other issues they are dealing with and not just the purse. I don't have any idea what are those though but I hope everything will be official now. Maybe they can also share with us those "problems" that makes the fight hanging until now.

Let's give this month for us to wait. We should expect to have an announcement by next month, August.

but i believe the situation here is more on purse split..thus, their respective promoters should set aside this aspect as it may hinder the two boxers to fight for their highest paying match. people are asking for it, so why delay for some reasons?
anyway, we will know their true sentiments here as it will come out for sure.

That's all we can do right now, sit and wait for the official announcement (if this is to be made).

Both wanted more money so who is going to give an inch? or if the promoters or networks are willing to shoulder the difference?

We are all anxious if this fight is going to happen or not.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 20, 2022, 06:53:33 PM

Alright, any idea why the fight is delayed in the announcement? Just a wild guess everyone.

Or it's really considered delayed to this point even though the fight is expected to happen in October? Maybe are just in rush.

How about waiting for several weeks and extending our patience. We might get a surprising good news in the weeks after.

No idea, I thought that the negotiations might be done by now and if there is issues with the purse, Crawford said he is willing to take the B-side so don't know who's stalling or who is the delaying the big fight.

So at this point, we may say that there is no clear path, whether this year as they have plan or early next year. For sure us are now frustrated not hearing any news of this fight.

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Quote from: harizen on July 20, 2022, 06:43:04 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:28:03 PM

Yeah no clue why it hasn't come together at this point. This is the fight not just us want to see but the boxing world wants to see. Best versus the best right. They can argue about purse until they are blue in the face but it seems there is more holding this up than just purse.

The concern related to purses etc. shouldn't be a big deal if that's the only thing they are addressing.

I believed too that there are other issues they are dealing with and not just the purse. I don't have any idea what are those though but I hope everything will be official now. Maybe they can also share with us those "problems" that makes the fight hanging until now.

Let's give this month for us to wait. We should expect to have an announcement by next month, August.

but i believe the situation here is more on purse split..thus, their respective promoters should set aside this aspect as it may hinder the two boxers to fight for their highest paying match. people are asking for it, so why delay for some reasons?
anyway, we will know their true sentiments here as it will come out for sure.

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Alright, any idea why the fight is delayed in the announcement? Just a wild guess everyone.

Or it's really considered delayed to this point even though the fight is expected to happen in October? Maybe are just in rush.

How about waiting for several weeks and extending our patience. We might get a surprising good news in the weeks after.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:28:03 PM

Yeah no clue why it hasn't come together at this point. This is the fight not just us want to see but the boxing world wants to see. Best versus the best right. They can argue about purse until they are blue in the face but it seems there is more holding this up than just purse.

The concern related to purses etc. shouldn't be a big deal if that's the only thing they are addressing.

I believed too that there are other issues they are dealing with and not just the purse. I don't have any idea what are those though but I hope everything will be official now. Maybe they can also share with us those "problems" that makes the fight hanging until now.

Let's give this month for us to wait. We should expect to have an announcement by next month, August.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 20, 2022, 04:38:07 PM

Quote from: stadus on July 20, 2022, 04:09:44 PM

It really seems to me that Spence was literally playing the game against Crawford while the latter is still hot and ripe, I get that Spence was trying to be tough and all to maintain his posture and of course the hype. But he cannot really hide his true agenda that he is still trying to duck and avoid all these time because Crawford is much more superior than him this time.

It's been a while since they both confirmed that both camps are talking and trying to reach an agreement to have an undisputed this October in Las Vegas but when Crawford was interviewed by Showtime Sports yesterday, he said that they are still trying to reach an agreement with Spence and still trying to determine a date and place.

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Crawford on if there’s any news on a hotly anticipated fight with Errol Spence:
"Not really. Nothing’s really set in stone or any dates or anything thus far, but we definitely working on that fight to happen."

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/7/20/23271230/terence-crawford-talks-potential-fights-against-errol-spence-jaron-ennis-and-more-boxing-news-2022

Boxing fans, will surely be disappointed if the fight are not going to happen this year, or at least being derailed because Spence is stalling the fight so that he can have advantage of Crawford getting older. We have discussed to death about the purse split and the PPv numbers and who will be the A-side. And we all agree that Spence should get the lion share. But if he is the one that doesn't want to make the fight this year, then for sure it will back fire on him and will criticized for waiting to long before agreeing to this fight.

Yeah no clue why it hasn't come together at this point. This is the fight not just us want to see but the boxing world wants to see. Best versus the best right. They can argue about purse until they are blue in the face but it seems there is more holding this up than just purse.

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Quote from: stadus on July 20, 2022, 04:09:44 PM

It really seems to me that Spence was literally playing the game against Crawford while the latter is still hot and ripe, I get that Spence was trying to be tough and all to maintain his posture and of course the hype. But he cannot really hide his true agenda that he is still trying to duck and avoid all these time because Crawford is much more superior than him this time.

We don't know but as far as current stories are concerned, both camps are really interested in this fight, especially Spence Jr. who even pointed out that Terence Crawford is his next opponent before moving up.

He said that there are 2 more fights in the Welterweight before he moves upon which the first one is against Ugas which is now settled and the next is Crawford.

Before, maybe it was understandable that he is trying to play with Crawford by dodging the fight but currently, Spence has no choice but to fight Crawford as that's the only thing that needs to be done - to unify all the championship in the Welterweight.

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Quote from: stadus on July 20, 2022, 04:09:44 PM

It really seems to me that Spence was literally playing the game against Crawford while the latter is still hot and ripe, I get that Spence was trying to be tough and all to maintain his posture and of course the hype. But he cannot really hide his true agenda that he is still trying to duck and avoid all these time because Crawford is much more superior than him this time.

It's been a while since they both confirmed that both camps are talking and trying to reach an agreement to have an undisputed this October in Las Vegas but when Crawford was interviewed by Showtime Sports yesterday, he said that they are still trying to reach an agreement with Spence and still trying to determine a date and place.

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Crawford on if there’s any news on a hotly anticipated fight with Errol Spence:
"Not really. Nothing’s really set in stone or any dates or anything thus far, but we definitely working on that fight to happen."

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/7/20/23271230/terence-crawford-talks-potential-fights-against-errol-spence-jaron-ennis-and-more-boxing-news-2022

Boxing fans, will surely be disappointed if the fight are not going to happen this year, or at least being derailed because Spence is stalling the fight so that he can have advantage of Crawford getting older. We have discussed to death about the purse split and the PPv numbers and who will be the A-side. And we all agree that Spence should get the lion share. But if he is the one that doesn't want to make the fight this year, then for sure it will back fire on him and will criticized for waiting to long before agreeing to this fight.

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It really seems to me that Spence was literally playing the game against Crawford while the latter is still hot and ripe, I get that Spence was trying to be tough and all to maintain his posture and of course the hype. But he cannot really hide his true agenda that he is still trying to duck and avoid all these time because Crawford is much more superior than him this time.

It's been a while since they both confirmed that both camps are talking and trying to reach an agreement to have an undisputed this October in Las Vegas but when Crawford was interviewed by Showtime Sports yesterday, he said that they are still trying to reach an agreement with Spence and still trying to determine a date and place.

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Crawford on if there’s any news on a hotly anticipated fight with Errol Spence:
"Not really. Nothing’s really set in stone or any dates or anything thus far, but we definitely working on that fight to happen."

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/7/20/23271230/terence-crawford-talks-potential-fights-against-errol-spence-jaron-ennis-and-more-boxing-news-2022

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I agree with that, it's not a problem to sell this fight, the big problem is if these two will agree on the sharing of the revenue and purse. If one will demand a 50/50 share while the other boxer will not agree because he wants more, then this fight will just remain a speculation.

That 50/50 is never gonna happen as Spence would never accept that, the final call now is from Crawford, if he will agree to lower his share then most likely this fight will be realized. We have been anticipating this fight, it's a big disappointment if it will not happen this year after all the hype that is happening.

Crawford will accept a lower share and it's nothing new. It's on Spence if he really wants to force that ridiculous 60/40 or even 70/30. I say 55/45 in favor of Spence should be fair enough. It's not like Spence is a huge PPV draw either so his previous demands were unreasonable. The event will most likely draw 500k to 1 million PPV buys. It's like Spence 250k and Crawford 150k and the huge chunk of the draw is because they are fighting each other.

The latest in the grapevine is this will happen in November this year. So from early this year, then to October and now November. Does it look like Spence is still not confident to face his fears? So he is continuing to buy some time to make Crawford older and more inactive. Years of ducking and avoiding the boogeyman.

Even a 55/45 share won't get Spence interested to make the fight happen, I bet a 60/40 will be the nearest speculation we had so far we discussed here because Spence has said that he will only agree if he will get the bigger slice.

Honestly, this fight is not about the money anymore because the money that they will get is just a by-product of this fight. Both camps are now trying to talk about making their legacy to become an undisputed fighter in the Welterweight and Spence or Crawford will be the 7th boxer who will be going to attain the status next to Canelo Alvarez.

I totally see Spence trying to play the book where he is indeed trying to get some time because Crawford will get older day by day and will be a year inactive in the coming months while Spence will gain the advantage side.

In this order of ideas, I think that Spence will take advantage of the fact of being younger than Crawford, he will be able to get some kind of advantage, but I don't know, on the one hand there is youth, and on the other there is experience, as much as I feel that Crawford he has the skill of a fox when hunting, and he knows very well how he can fight Spence, I think the most intelligent and cunning will win this, because physically I see them both very well, I don't know who has more training, Crawford certainly doesn't take Spence's youth into account because I'm sure he'll advocate for his experience and strategy, which he'll have ready by now.

Both Spence Jr. and Crawford has the skill and ability to school one another but if the fight were to happen this year, for sure, I will put my bet on Crawford because he has more capabilities in his sleeve and probably more IQ and experience in the ring than Spence Jr.

But if this fight will happen next year then I have to re-assess and reconsider my options here because a month that will pass will bring more disadvantage to Crawford as he will be inactive this coming November and he's getting any older too. While Spence Jr. will still be fresh from his fight against Ugas recently and still standing at the peak of his youth and prime.

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Quote from: harizen on July 16, 2022, 06:57:47 PM

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Possibly, so what are they waiting for, they should make an official announcement already so people will start buying tickets for the probable biggest fight of the year. Crawford vs Spence, this is the fight that we have been waiting for, and I can't accept if it will not be realized this year.

Don't mind the ticket sales. That bout is expected to be sold out just even minutes or a few hours before the announcement.

Here are the key reasons:

a) the fight was been anticipated for long
b) the fight was between two champions
c) Spence is the King of PPV
d) Crawford is currently at the top of the rankings

That's why even there's no official announcement yet, it will be sold out no matter what.

Yes, I have certainly no doubt about it. This match-up will be the greatest fight of the year and probably for the whole decade, with two great boxers sharing a ring and clashing for the undisputed title in the Welterweight division. I can see that this fight is like the Mayweather-Pacquiao match up because it will surely generate millions and millions of dollars that will benefit both boxers and will even surpass the said match-up by these two.

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Well, it seems to me that the fight will take place anyway, maybe it's just an attempt to create an intrigue to attract audience interest, nothing more, but why is there so little hype around, maybe Showtime is not showing proper interest here.

Little hype? I don't think so, I believe the moment they will officially announce this fight, those tickets will be sold out easily. This is an anticipated fight, so I believe everyone will be eager to pay and watch this through PPV.

Yes, there is no need to worry about the sale of tickets for ppv, I think there will be no problems here, there is just a situation of forced silence, because both boxers have no defeats and now someone will have to lose, mutual determination is needed here.

They are not only thinking of the money but more about the legacy because it's good to retire an undefeated fighter like Mayweather. Actually, both can make the biggest payday of their career but they know the risk because the loser will eventually decrease his value or popularity.

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