Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 36. (Read 8536 times)

Mayweather is a PPV king, period.

The reason why he is the richest boxer in the history of boxing if I'm not mistaken, and I don't think the current era of boxers would defeat him. His era is full of exciting fighters, they have Pacman of course, now, boxers doding each other just to remain undefeated.

I'm not sure about this, Mayweather vs Pacman did 4.6M buys, that is hard to crack. Although that Mike Tyson vs RJJ did a decent numbers in the pandemic reaching around 1.65M.

So I'm guessing maybe around that numbers or maybe it will be as high as 2.0M but nowhere close to even Conor vs Floyd or Floyd vs Oscar Dela Hoya.

I understand, you're also entitled to your opinion at all and we are just talking some speculations that will likely happen if this match will materialize soon enough which I bet it will. If we are talking about chances, a draw or decision will be nearest speculation to this fight and we are not new to this as Canelo and GGG had the same outcome even if Canelo had an impressive KO ratio.
Aside from that, I can't honestly tell who have the higher hand on this fight because they are both exceptional and have their own set of skills.

I will tend to agree but this two needed each other in this era. I mean we have Pacman vs Floyd (although they fought late in their career), or other great champions in the past fighting each other not just for the belt but to become the best fighter in their generation.

So before moving to 154 lbs might be good legacy wise for Spence to beat Crawford or vice versa. This two need to dance and become the undisputed. As for who gets the more money, it seems that Spence has been arguing about it for years now maybe 60/40 or 55/45 in favor of him is not that bad.

Maybe pre-pandemic, we can say that it might be the biggest even topping the numbers of Floyd and Pacman. But with the recession and all the things that are happening right, it will be lucky if this fight will make 1.x M PPV in numbers. Yes, this is one of the biggest fight, maybe bigger than Canelo vs GGG, but the numbers will not do justice. Just sad that this fight is going to happen at this time wherein people doesn't have money and maybe just stay at home and look for free streaming, just saying.

Even before, Crawford already mentioned his willingness to accept the lower share. I forgot the exact number but he did talk in public about it. 45/55 I think. And there was also another option where the winner will take a certain percentage. I think it was fair. But obviously, it's Spence that really avoided Crawford over the years.

I disagree when some people mentioned that Crawford needs Spence because of his 3 belts compared to his 1 belt. Crawford even without fighting Spence has enough credits to enter the Hall of Fame. Spence's achievements are not enough to even get a nomination in the HoF. And if we talk about the money. Crawford was already receiving a minimum of $5 million per fight when Spence was just a hundred-thousand fighter. They're both rich and can move on from fighting each other. But if Spence cared about his career achievements, if he wants to enter the Hall of Fame then he needs Crawford for a chance to become undisputed. What more advantages does Spence want against Crawford? He was scared for many years when was approached by Crawford. Did Spence get a Crawfordphobia after that incident? Now he got a chance to fight an almost 1 year inactive and older version of Crawford.

Otherwise, Crawford can just activate a WBO mandatory status in super welterweight where Jermell Charlo holds all 4 belts and the Ring belt. A chance to become a 4 division world champion, a 3 time Ring/lineal champion, and the first to become a 2 division undisputed champion (4-belt era).

However, Spence versus Crawford might be the biggest payperview revenue in the history of boxing. It might be more than the payperview numbers of Mayweather versus Pacman. It would be very stupid for Terence Crawford's team to not demand a share equal to Spence's share.

There will be no outstanding favorite in this fight for sure, but I will reckon that Crawford might be the slight favorite. Just like in the Magsayo fight wherein in the beginning it was Vargas and then Magsayo took the lead and in the end, Vargas shows why he is the favorite.

Anyhow, no noise, means the negotiations is not yet done, or they don't want to spill the news this early and create more hype for the fans. Although there is already hype around it, but we all know that boxing is a business for the networks and their managers so the wait is killing us all.

I somehow disagree on this, Crawford-Spence fight doesn't need the hype to help them sell their fight because these two can create it whenever they wanted. Also, the hype was already there even though the fight is still classified as rumored but Crawford and Mayweather have been confirming that both camps are close to reaching a deal so frankly, there's some discussion up until now.

https://www.oddscritic.com/sports-betting-news/crawford-vs-spence-odds-date-tv-details/
I'm not sure if these odds are real, but since the fight is not official yet, then we cannot consider these odds as real ones.
However, this would give us a picture on what people think about this fight, if Crawford is the favorite, then be it, anyway it's just a slight favorite.

They should make it happen this year, too much wait already, there's no need to hype this fight as definitely it will be a sellout crowd. What we like to know here is who is the better fighter, I'm sure it's a 50/50 fight, don't know who will be the favorite because they are almost equal in terms of skills in boxing.

Don't know if that is the really case but actually if they remain silent towards that rumored fight then maybe they cannot hype up that huge match knowing that boxing still a business and sold millions of dollars ticket sales, so maybe there's no deal has been discuss yet toward thus fight and those news is just purely a rumor.

And if I'm not mistaken though, the news can only come out from the mouth of the reliable sources like you mentioned and they could include this in the contract itself. And if anyone break that, for sure the fight might got cancelled or if not, some monetary incentive of the parties that broke the agreement. And maybe this is the reason why it is so quiet that we don't hear anything from either of them because the negotiations are very secret that only a few people only knows what's going on behind. And all we hear are just noises and rumors.

There are too many rumors circulating but they were really vague as both camps and Showtime will try not to offend each other with the ongoing negotiations. So it's like we can only say that news is only reliable when it comes directly from Espinoza head of Showtime, Al Haymon of PBC, Ellerbe the manager of Spence, Spence himself, and Crawford himself. Stephen Espinoza of Showtime said this week that he is confident of a deal this month.

Errol Spence also said this week that a fight deal is near. But how near? I read another rumor that Spence is actually fine with the terms and that it is Crawford's monetary demands that are difficult to negotiate. These people aren't giving figures and numbers though so we do not have any idea what's going on. And we do not know if Crawford's demand is fair or not. Because clearly, Crawford is presenting himself in hostile territory with the fight itself aired by Spence's network and promoted by Spence's promoter.
 

Correct, this two might be training already in preparation for their October fight. And if ever this fight didn't happen on that time frame, still good for them to be both prepare. You don't prepare from the moment the fight is announced. At least you have a grasp on how much this fight is going to happen, so again, every boxer will get every inch of advantage like having this body and their mind on it. So win-win situation for them, both are champions and knows what it is the line for this fight.

Both parties know the status of the ongoing negotiations therefore they might be preparing now even before the official announcement.

It's not that everything will just begin to prepare after they announced the official status of the fight. Preparations are surely in progress now as we speak and they didn't just announce it. Don't know what other things are left to be fixed but let's trust the process.

Even if they will announce it in August and the fight is supposedly in October, it's just fine and no worries about the preparation time.

I disagree with you that if any case that the match will be decided by decision, it would be no fun. What if the majority of the rounds are all intense and their exchanges of blows are impressive that we didn't know who will win until the final bell rang.

I'd rather see that kind of match even it will end up in a decision. Not all fights that end up in a decision are not fun and entertaining.

Knowing also the capability of both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence, they won't surely allow themselves to be KO and will try to remain standing strong until the last round. This fight is very important to them and staying away from being KO will be one of their priority.

To be honest I don't see them gonna reach the last round and their victory will be decided by the judges scorecards because that would be no fun at all unless one of them dominated the other to win a unanimous decision. Since both fighters are capable of winning a knockout, the fans will gonna be crazy to cheer their favorite boxer once they clash inside the ring. I doubt Crawford will ever back down once he gauges Spence's punches because he can take it and when he does, either one of them will go down cause Spence will also unleash his power to the max.

Yes, there's a chance that this fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford could end into a draw but I think the chance is just slim because I'm also confident that only one of them will remain undefeated at the end of the day. Not sure though if it will be Spence Jr. or Crawford even if it will be a full 12-round fight, the judges will still give a call on who will be the hailed undefeated that night.

Practical Bob Arum, he's been always like that. I know that he's just protecting his beloved boxers to maintain their status but mostly, that's not what his boxers wanted because they have something in mind that could make a legacy and these boxers would definitely appreciate if Bob Arum will also listen. But as I said, Bob Arum is too afraid to scathe his boxers.
I won't be surprised if Artur Beterbiev will not re-sign the contract with Top Rank if his requests to become an undisputed in LHW and fight Bivol will not be granted.