[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 38.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

I think it's more of Ugas really wanted to have a big fight, so instead of waiting for Thurman, (which I personally was caught by surprise by his announcement that he will fight again). So it's the best option for now. And if Ugas will win against Spence, then he can either choose between Thurman or Spence.

Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

So it's prime vs prime fight here, and let's see which version are going to win. I will put Spence at a slight favorite here, but who knows, Ugas might pull a big surprised.

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Ugas has been in the shadow of this great welterweights such as Spence, and now he has been given the chance to proved that he belongs in the top. He beats Pacman alright, but there is an argument that Pacman is really old and wasn't able to prepare for his style. Nevertheless this fight will define the legacy of both fighters and could look for bigger fights in the future, like unification with Crawford.

I really want to see Spence win this fight because I really wanted to see him fighting Crawford with their clean record when they step in the ring. That would be the best fight of the century since these guys are the real deal in the weight division. They need to fight this year for real because time will decrease their skill and it would not be exciting anymore if they decide to fight when they are already old.

Yeah, still possible though, Spence is a great fighter and maybe he can still continue to dominate and beat Ugas in a close fight and keep his record intact. So that when he faces Crawford, both of them are undefeated and it could make a good boxing story board. So let's see if Spence is 100% recovered from his eye operation in this fight and there is no ring rust as well because of his long layoffs.

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Quote from: Dave1 on January 01, 2022, 10:56:36 PM

Ugas has been in the shadow of this great welterweights such as Spence, and now he has been given the chance to proved that he belongs in the top. He beats Pacman alright, but there is an argument that Pacman is really old and wasn't able to prepare for his style. Nevertheless this fight will define the legacy of both fighters and could look for bigger fights in the future, like unification with Crawford.

I really want to see Spence win this fight because I really wanted to see him fighting Crawford with their clean record when they step in the ring. That would be the best fight of the century since these guys are the real deal in the weight division. They need to fight this year for real because time will decrease their skill and it would not be exciting anymore if they decide to fight when they are already old.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 30, 2021, 06:50:25 PM

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

This is something I mentioned as well, it is easy to think that Ugas could fight someone else before the unification fight and squeeze more money that way, but we know that in a sport like boxing anything can happen, and if he happens to lose then any chance for a big payday will be over, and we have seen many examples of this in the past, for example in the heavyweight division Joshua avoided Fury and when he was according to the rumors finally ready to fight him he lost against Ruiz and then against Usyk, and now it is very unlikely he will ever fight Fury, so it is likely Ugas did not wanted something like this happening to him and went for the unification fight right away.

The money is good and Ugas believes he can beat Spence so this fight happens. No more bad speculation about Ugas, he proved himself already by beating Pacman, so he is really to take a bigger fight to win a unification battle. If he loses here, I'm sure he can still get big fights as it's not the first time he loses in a fight, but if he wins here, that's gonna make him a superstar, and the next stop would be Crawford.

Ugas has been in the shadow of this great welterweights such as Spence, and now he has been given the chance to proved that he belongs in the top. He beats Pacman alright, but there is an argument that Pacman is really old and wasn't able to prepare for his style. Nevertheless this fight will define the legacy of both fighters and could look for bigger fights in the future, like unification with Crawford.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 30, 2021, 06:50:25 PM

Quote from: Silberman on December 30, 2021, 05:34:37 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

This is something I mentioned as well, it is easy to think that Ugas could fight someone else before the unification fight and squeeze more money that way, but we know that in a sport like boxing anything can happen, and if he happens to lose then any chance for a big payday will be over, and we have seen many examples of this in the past, for example in the heavyweight division Joshua avoided Fury and when he was according to the rumors finally ready to fight him he lost against Ruiz and then against Usyk, and now it is very unlikely he will ever fight Fury, so it is likely Ugas did not wanted something like this happening to him and went for the unification fight right away.

The money is good and Ugas believes he can beat Spence so this fight happens. No more bad speculation about Ugas, he proved himself already by beating Pacman, so he is really to take a bigger fight to win a unification battle. If he loses here, I'm sure he can still get big fights as it's not the first time he loses in a fight, but if he wins here, that's gonna make him a superstar, and the next stop would be Crawford.

It's hard to imagine that Ugas will win here, if Spence is fully healthy, I think we are going to see a KO win from him as Ugas would only be a standing target since he cannot take advantage using his lenght like what he did on Pacquioa.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 30, 2021, 05:34:37 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

This is something I mentioned as well, it is easy to think that Ugas could fight someone else before the unification fight and squeeze more money that way, but we know that in a sport like boxing anything can happen, and if he happens to lose then any chance for a big payday will be over, and we have seen many examples of this in the past, for example in the heavyweight division Joshua avoided Fury and when he was according to the rumors finally ready to fight him he lost against Ruiz and then against Usyk, and now it is very unlikely he will ever fight Fury, so it is likely Ugas did not wanted something like this happening to him and went for the unification fight right away.

The money is good and Ugas believes he can beat Spence so this fight happens. No more bad speculation about Ugas, he proved himself already by beating Pacman, so he is really to take a bigger fight to win a unification battle. If he loses here, I'm sure he can still get big fights as it's not the first time he loses in a fight, but if he wins here, that's gonna make him a superstar, and the next stop would be Crawford.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

This is something I mentioned as well, it is easy to think that Ugas could fight someone else before the unification fight and squeeze more money that way, but we know that in a sport like boxing anything can happen, and if he happens to lose then any chance for a big payday will be over, and we have seen many examples of this in the past, for example in the heavyweight division Joshua avoided Fury and when he was according to the rumors finally ready to fight him he lost against Ruiz and then against Usyk, and now it is very unlikely he will ever fight Fury, so it is likely Ugas did not wanted something like this happening to him and went for the unification fight right away.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 30, 2021, 09:39:31 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 26, 2021, 04:29:06 PM

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence Jr. has more power than Yordenis Ugas, but he could lose

Shawn Porter shared his thought regarding the expected bout between Errol Spence Jr. and Yordenis Ugas next year 1Q. As he experienced fighting both these boxers, he was able to measure the weight on who's gonna likely win. No doubt, Spence Jr. was considered that have a power advantage but not closing a book right away that Ugas might have a chance to snatch a win.

And he quote "I’m actually convinced he may find a way to beat Errol Spence Jr,”. Let's see about that.

The truth in this type of confrontation would not know what could happen, UGAS is a very complete boxer and can give the surprise that everyone is looking for, statistics can show a way to the right thing, but many times it fails, although I have seen that in boxing the statistics are very exact and rarely fail, this is something very considered in sports betting, as everyone seeks to win at all costs, and some bettors who do not know the sport can bet blindly trusting in it. Anyway, the controversy is huge, I can't say if Errol is in his best form, anyway, if it were the fight right now, I wouldn't bet on any of them.

Coming from Shawn Porter, don't believe that thing as his opinion is biased.

Look, Shawn Porter beat Ugas via Split decision, and Porter losses to Spence in a Split decision, so the better fighter here is Spence because he is only fighting the leftover of Porter. I like to see if Ugas is really a great fighter or he just beat Pacman because Pacman had some leg tightness issue during their fight.

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Quote from: harizen on December 26, 2021, 04:29:06 PM

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence Jr. has more power than Yordenis Ugas, but he could lose

Shawn Porter shared his thought regarding the expected bout between Errol Spence Jr. and Yordenis Ugas next year 1Q. As he experienced fighting both these boxers, he was able to measure the weight on who's gonna likely win. No doubt, Spence Jr. was considered that have a power advantage but not closing a book right away that Ugas might have a chance to snatch a win.

And he quote "I’m actually convinced he may find a way to beat Errol Spence Jr,”. Let's see about that.

The truth in this type of confrontation would not know what could happen, UGAS is a very complete boxer and can give the surprise that everyone is looking for, statistics can show a way to the right thing, but many times it fails, although I have seen that in boxing the statistics are very exact and rarely fail, this is something very considered in sports betting, as everyone seeks to win at all costs, and some bettors who do not know the sport can bet blindly trusting in it. Anyway, the controversy is huge, I can't say if Errol is in his best form, anyway, if it were the fight right now, I wouldn't bet on any of them.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Ugas is not after just a big paycheck he takes an opportunity when presented, it was offered to him and of course, he will not hesitate to go for it, and it's a speculation that he can beat Thurman en route to Spence so he'll go for the big fish right away, Ugas made the right decision to go for the big fish and just make a preparation, it's like winning a lottery if he wins against Spence.

Remember that he has a belt as well and full of confidence against his win against Manny Pacquiao. And this opportunity presented itself to him, so most likely he will take it and proved that he is in the top 3 in the weight class. And speaking of Thurman, he is coming back so it will be fun to see those 4 fighting against each other and see who is the best.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 04:57:52 AM

Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Ugas is not after just a big paycheck he takes an opportunity when presented, it was offered to him and of course, he will not hesitate to go for it, and it's a speculation that he can beat Thurman en route to Spence so he'll go for the big fish right away, Ugas made the right decision to go for the big fish and just make a preparation, it's like winning a lottery if he wins against Spence.

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Some boxing enthusiasts said that Ugas instead should pick Keith Thurman first before jumping to Spence Jr. The reason is, Ugas has a chance to make another big paycheck before fighting Spence as the majority thinks that he can deal with Thurman as he was able to defeat Manny Pacquiao.

Of course, that's just speculation, and what if Thurman won? No big fight opportunity will happen to Ugas now. It's a good decision for me that he go directly with the big one as Ugas is also hitting his veteran period now.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 24, 2021, 03:21:43 AM

You are right, Ugas is very slow for Errol Spence. The only reason he is in this fight is because he has the belt and he defeated an old Pacman. No offense to Ugas fans here but he is not in the level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford but he should be happy that everything falls in his favor, first being the replacement fighter to fight Manny then defeat Manny where after that the money flows. I reckon that this fight would not last the distance as Ugas has no lateral movement.

I think the same way but at the end of the day he is a champion and that is more than enough for us to be interested in the fight even if we think Spence is the favorite to win it all, besides it is likely that Ugas knew this and instead of trying to face a challenger and then lose his title he decided to go for an unification fight thinking that even if he lost he will obtain more money that way, and if there is a rematch clause on the contract then he can get two title fights and receive even more money that way.

Ugas prove his worth that’s why he gain it by defeating Manny and we have to move on from that and accept the fact that he is a champion. Fighting Spence can be a big fight as well and hopefully, no more reason for Spend to cancel this match or else it can really affect his career. Too early to say buy I believe Ugas have the chance here to win agains Spend if this will push through.

He cannot find another excuse to cancel this fight, he already ruined the career of Manny Pacquiao, so he should fight the one who beat Pacquiao. I like Ugas because he is a real man, he even gave Pacquiao a chance for a rematch but the latter decided to retire from boxing, so it's Ugas and Spence now and I'm expecting it to be an exciting fight to watch.

Partially agree here. I think the explosiveness of what Pacquiao was supposed to show on Spence didn't happen when he fight Ugas. Aside from lots of things and works that Pacquiao is working on his mind outside boxing during that fight, there's still a difference when you prepared for someone and just about the match is now closing to the date, the opponent will be replaced.

Spence, whether that injury is just a reason or not to skip the fight with Manny, I think won't be another reason again to skip a fight with Ugas. He surely thinks that he can handle Ugas more instead of Manny.

As per reading news and reports about some updates, the fight will happen for real.

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Quote from: crzy on December 27, 2021, 04:35:42 PM

Quote from: Silberman on December 27, 2021, 04:22:10 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 24, 2021, 03:21:43 AM

You are right, Ugas is very slow for Errol Spence. The only reason he is in this fight is because he has the belt and he defeated an old Pacman. No offense to Ugas fans here but he is not in the level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford but he should be happy that everything falls in his favor, first being the replacement fighter to fight Manny then defeat Manny where after that the money flows. I reckon that this fight would not last the distance as Ugas has no lateral movement.

I think the same way but at the end of the day he is a champion and that is more than enough for us to be interested in the fight even if we think Spence is the favorite to win it all, besides it is likely that Ugas knew this and instead of trying to face a challenger and then lose his title he decided to go for an unification fight thinking that even if he lost he will obtain more money that way, and if there is a rematch clause on the contract then he can get two title fights and receive even more money that way.

Ugas prove his worth that’s why he gain it by defeating Manny and we have to move on from that and accept the fact that he is a champion. Fighting Spence can be a big fight as well and hopefully, no more reason for Spend to cancel this match or else it can really affect his career. Too early to say buy I believe Ugas have the chance here to win agains Spend if this will push through.

He cannot find another excuse to cancel this fight, he already ruined the career of Manny Pacquiao, so he should fight the one who beat Pacquiao. I like Ugas because he is a real man, he even gave Pacquiao a chance for a rematch but the latter decided to retire from boxing, so it's Ugas and Spence now and I'm expecting it to be an exciting fight to watch.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 27, 2021, 04:22:10 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 24, 2021, 03:21:43 AM

You are right, Ugas is very slow for Errol Spence. The only reason he is in this fight is because he has the belt and he defeated an old Pacman. No offense to Ugas fans here but he is not in the level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford but he should be happy that everything falls in his favor, first being the replacement fighter to fight Manny then defeat Manny where after that the money flows. I reckon that this fight would not last the distance as Ugas has no lateral movement.

I think the same way but at the end of the day he is a champion and that is more than enough for us to be interested in the fight even if we think Spence is the favorite to win it all, besides it is likely that Ugas knew this and instead of trying to face a challenger and then lose his title he decided to go for an unification fight thinking that even if he lost he will obtain more money that way, and if there is a rematch clause on the contract then he can get two title fights and receive even more money that way.

Ugas prove his worth that’s why he gain it by defeating Manny and we have to move on from that and accept the fact that he is a champion. Fighting Spence can be a big fight as well and hopefully, no more reason for Spend to cancel this match or else it can really affect his career. Too early to say buy I believe Ugas have the chance here to win agains Spend if this will push through.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 24, 2021, 03:21:43 AM

You are right, Ugas is very slow for Errol Spence. The only reason he is in this fight is because he has the belt and he defeated an old Pacman. No offense to Ugas fans here but he is not in the level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford but he should be happy that everything falls in his favor, first being the replacement fighter to fight Manny then defeat Manny where after that the money flows. I reckon that this fight would not last the distance as Ugas has no lateral movement.

I think the same way but at the end of the day he is a champion and that is more than enough for us to be interested in the fight even if we think Spence is the favorite to win it all, besides it is likely that Ugas knew this and instead of trying to face a challenger and then lose his title he decided to go for an unification fight thinking that even if he lost he will obtain more money that way, and if there is a rematch clause on the contract then he can get two title fights and receive even more money that way.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 27, 2021, 08:42:37 AM

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 27, 2021, 12:45:25 AM

Porter never really liked Spence! Spence exposed their sparring match before they fought and he played Porter style of fighting by saying Porter fights like he is swimming! Also, Spence said he doesn't like Porter style of fighting! Spence don't even consider Porter a boxer and he told Porter that to his face! He said Porter fights like he is playing football

To conclude here, they both have bad blood on each other.
This is why we are reading this kind of tirades.
But we will see the final verdict when both of these boxers will fight inside the ring.
Ugas, I believe, is just doing his preparations silently as I've seen when he fought Pacquiao, the respect you've seen is quite admirable.
So win or lose, I think, Ugas got his followers already. A lot noticed his good behavior from his last fight.

Porter and Spence does not have to throw bad words against each other as they already have fought and we know who won. This is a battle between Spence and Ugas, this is a big one so no more talking on Porter as he is not a popular challenger now.

This against two heavy fighters, and I like the way the post above you mentioned, Ugas is just preparing silently the same attitude he showed when the fight against Pacquiao was announced, after that win he already earned respect from the boxing followers, now it's time for him to make a good conclusion from this division, not an easy task but if he show the same caliber, he was when facing Pacquiao the chance of winning is there for him.

We will only conclude who's going to win after the final verdict was announced.

Good luck to every gambler who will participate in this fight.. Cool

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Quote from: TimeTeller on December 27, 2021, 07:44:07 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 27, 2021, 12:45:25 AM

Porter never really liked Spence! Spence exposed their sparring match before they fought and he played Porter style of fighting by saying Porter fights like he is swimming! Also, Spence said he doesn't like Porter style of fighting! Spence don't even consider Porter a boxer and he told Porter that to his face! He said Porter fights like he is playing football

To conclude here, they both have bad blood on each other.
This is why we are reading this kind of tirades.
But we will see the final verdict when both of these boxers will fight inside the ring.
Ugas, I believe, is just doing his preparations silently as I've seen when he fought Pacquiao, the respect you've seen is quite admirable.
So win or lose, I think, Ugas got his followers already. A lot noticed his good behavior from his last fight.

Porter and Spence does not have to throw bad words against each other as they already have fought and we know who won. This is a battle between Spence and Ugas, this is a big one so no more talking on Porter as he is not a popular challenger now.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 27, 2021, 12:45:25 AM

Porter never really liked Spence! Spence exposed their sparring match before they fought and he played Porter style of fighting by saying Porter fights like he is swimming! Also, Spence said he doesn't like Porter style of fighting! Spence don't even consider Porter a boxer and he told Porter that to his face! He said Porter fights like he is playing football

To conclude here, they both have bad blood on each other.
This is why we are reading this kind of tirades.
But we will see the final verdict when both of these boxers will fight inside the ring.
Ugas, I believe, is just doing his preparations silently as I've seen when he fought Pacquiao, the respect you've seen is quite admirable.
So win or lose, I think, Ugas got his followers already. A lot noticed his good behavior from his last fight.

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Quote from: harizen on December 26, 2021, 04:29:06 PM

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence Jr. has more power than Yordenis Ugas, but he could lose

Shawn Porter shared his thought regarding the expected bout between Errol Spence Jr. and Yordenis Ugas next year 1Q. As he experienced fighting both these boxers, he was able to measure the weight on who's gonna likely win. No doubt, Spence Jr. was considered that have a power advantage but not closing a book right away that Ugas might have a chance to snatch a win.

And he quote "I’m actually convinced he may find a way to beat Errol Spence Jr,”. Let's see about that.

Porter never really liked Spence! Spence exposed their sparring match before they fought and he played Porter style of fighting by saying Porter fights like he is swimming! Also, Spence said he doesn't like Porter style of fighting! Spence don't even consider Porter a boxer and he told Porter that to his face! He said Porter fights like he is playing football

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