Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman - page 14.

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Quote from: Pamadar on February 26, 2023, 01:48:04 AM

That's the reason why I said that Thurman needs to work and prepare on how to beat Spence Jr., he needs to add more strategy to counter Spence's quick and powerful punches.

Spence may have powerful punches, but I don't think quickness defines him. I even think that the reason why the potential fight against Crawford did not happen is that Spence sees that Crawford has a huge advantage in terms of quickness.

Quote from: Pamadar on February 26, 2023, 01:48:04 AM

We can't tell if who's going to win as both are capable of throwing solid punches that can bring their opponents down
and kiss the floor. Whatever happens, it's best to see a toe-to-toe confrontations with both fighters, it would be an
additional entertainment for the fans and viewers who will spend money to support the fight.

They will have to fight to determine the winner, but we have our favorite fighter that we are rooting for. As for Spence, he is the favorite of this fight, so it's not surprising that most of the comments favor his advantage to win. However, we have to remember that before Thurman lost to Pacquiao, they were of the same status, or Thurman even had the upper hand.

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A prime Spence with speed and a power punch combination, it's a tough opponent to beat,
that last look at how Spence played with Ugas. That is something that Thurman needs to
work and analyze on how to counter and how to beat.

Ugas is just a one-dimensional fighter. He doesn't have the quickness, which is why he relies too much on his length. But Spence was able to make the right strategy to beat him, and that's why Ugas looked like an amateur in that fight. In my opinion, it will not happen to Thurman. I believe if Thurman loses, it will be a close fight and most likely will go to the judges' scorecards.

Every fighter have their own style and techniques and make them unique and also if we compare ugas and thurman which is they have different strategy in fighting and Ugas is a good boxer but not just quick as thurman Ugas is slower than thurman and this is the reason why spencer jr wins against Ugas but if Spence and thurman will fight in the ring then another good fight we need to see as we can see how this two fighters fight inside the ring.

That's the reason why I said that Thurman needs to work and prepare on how to beat Spence Jr., he needs to add more strategy to counter Spence's quick and powerful punches.

We can't tell if who's going to win as both are capable of throwing solid punches that can bring their opponents down
and kiss the floor. Whatever happens, it's best to see a toe-to-toe confrontations with both fighters, it would be an
additional entertainment for the fans and viewers who will spend money to support the fight.

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Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

If there is someone that Conor Benn should target, it's be his domestic rival Eubank Jr. They supposedly to fight, until Benn was supposedly caught with PEDs. And so that fight is cancelled and they look for Liam Smith as a replacement. Unfortunately, Smith knockout Eubank.

Quote from: freedomgo on February 24, 2023, 02:36:06 PM

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

Benn is a 154 lbs, unless Spence will really stick to this division, they might fight in the future.

Or maybe Spence will still be at 147 lbs because he has unfinished business there.

That was already a history, Conor Benn should just accept his fate that needs to refresh his skills first before going to a much stronger opponent as his records and value will be at heavy risk if he does that. And a small correction though, Benn is still a 147 division and he haven't made any recent fights at 154 before he was caught with PEDs. Still though, he should start at a much safer fight as a hasty move for now will not be worth it.

Yes, and he is supposedly to fight Eubank at a catch weight. But if he wanted to remain at super welterweight division, it's pretty much stack up division and so he has to go to a lot of boxers just to get a shot at the title.

There is Crawford, Ennis, Ortiz Jr, so if ever he got the chance to fight next, it should be amongst those elite boxers right now so that his ranking could move up after this unfortunate event in his career. And maybe the best for his is to forget about the Eubank fight if he wanted to be a 147 lbs champion.

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Quote from: stadus on February 25, 2023, 02:50:15 PM

Anyway, what I believe is that Thurman's chances is not that good because it's just hard to disregard that Spence is still on the height of his prime. What I mean is, let's just not expect too much as Thurman really did waste his time reflecting on his loss against a past-prime legendary.

In most aspects, Keith Thurman is nothing against Errol Spence. But it's a good opportunity that Thurman is having a big fight at the point of his career.

Spence is currently dangerous and I don't see how Thurman will deal with him.

If only Thurman remains super active after his fight against Pacquiao, he will be a good threat to Spence.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 25, 2023, 04:21:54 PM

Sadly if Thurman won this fight, he won't be getting any title on this.

Actually, it's not that Thurman is unfortunate for not having a title if he wins against Spence. If he won, that would bring his name again to the top rankings and that means a much bigger opportunity in his career. It will also send a statement to any boxers that he's something a big threat again at the WelterWeight/Super Welterweight division as he was able to take down a supposed dominant Spence Jr. Winning against Spence, Thurman will also put Spence's name in shame as he tries to avoid Crawford but in the end, losing in the hand of Thurman.

But going back to reality, I don't see any tactics or strategy that Thurman can put up against Spence as an advantage. Although I like Thurman to win because of a bit of disappointment that Spence's camp is doing on avoiding Crawford, we can't hide the fact that Spence all have the advantages on this fight against Thurman.

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Quote from: stadus on February 23, 2023, 04:01:07 PM

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

I think Thurman underestimated Manny Pacquiao and he paid for it. This time, I believe Thurman have learned a lesson from his previous fight that cost him a defeat. Beside, I think Spence and Manny have different fighting styles, maybe Spence's boxing style is easier for Thurman to adjust with. Anyway, this is just speculation, so anything will happen when the day they meet up in the ring. Sadly if Thurman won this fight, he won't be getting any title on this.

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Quote from: Jating on February 24, 2023, 04:32:24 PM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 24, 2023, 10:49:14 AM

Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

If there is someone that Conor Benn should target, it's be his domestic rival Eubank Jr. They supposedly to fight, until Benn was supposedly caught with PEDs. And so that fight is cancelled and they look for Liam Smith as a replacement. Unfortunately, Smith knockout Eubank.

Quote from: freedomgo on February 24, 2023, 02:36:06 PM

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

Benn is a 154 lbs, unless Spence will really stick to this division, they might fight in the future.

Or maybe Spence will still be at 147 lbs because he has unfinished business there.

That was already a history, Conor Benn should just accept his fate that needs to refresh his skills first before going to a much stronger opponent as his records and value will be at heavy risk if he does that. And a small correction though, Benn is still a 147 division and he haven't made any recent fights at 154 before he was caught with PEDs. Still though, he should start at a much safer fight as a hasty move for now will not be worth it.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

Yes, and what's funny is, everyone is talking about him beating Manny, because he has all the advantage and then the trash talk his way on that fight to the put that he really belittles the Legend. But look at what happen to him, he can't beat a past prime Pacquiao and even handed his ass down on the canvass? And then he went on this comeback fight a 140 lbs boxer that Gervonta Davis knock down several times, cut his face and beat him badly and score a tko in 11th. So what more can we ask for Thurman fighting a prime Spence? So we shouldn't be surprised if he get knock down again or even lost by ko/tko.

Now, we know that Keith Thurman do stand a chance against the prime Errol Spence Jr. but, let's refrain from making any moves that doesn't make any sense just because of that fact that most of us here got a thing against Errol Spence and his promoter because of what he did recently and in this fight that was moved in the 154 lbs. Or is it me? Grin

Anyway, what I believe is that Thurman's chances is not that good because it's just hard to disregard that Spence is still on the height of his prime. What I mean is, let's just not expect too much as Thurman really did waste his time reflecting on his loss against a past-prime legendary.

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A prime Spence with speed and a power punch combination, it's a tough opponent to beat,
that last look at how Spence played with Ugas. That is something that Thurman needs to
work and analyze on how to counter and how to beat.

Ugas is just a one-dimensional fighter. He doesn't have the quickness, which is why he relies too much on his length. But Spence was able to make the right strategy to beat him, and that's why Ugas looked like an amateur in that fight. In my opinion, it will not happen to Thurman. I believe if Thurman loses, it will be a close fight and most likely will go to the judges' scorecards.

Every fighter have their own style and techniques and make them unique and also if we compare ugas and thurman which is they have different strategy in fighting and Ugas is a good boxer but not just quick as thurman Ugas is slower than thurman and this is the reason why spencer jr wins against Ugas but if Spence and thurman will fight in the ring then another good fight we need to see as we can see how this two fighters fight inside the ring.

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Quote from: Pamadar on February 24, 2023, 08:00:54 PM

A prime Spence with speed and a power punch combination, it's a tough opponent to beat,
that last look at how Spence played with Ugas. That is something that Thurman needs to
work and analyze on how to counter and how to beat.

Ugas is just a one-dimensional fighter. He doesn't have the quickness, which is why he relies too much on his length. But Spence was able to make the right strategy to beat him, and that's why Ugas looked like an amateur in that fight. In my opinion, it will not happen to Thurman. I believe if Thurman loses, it will be a close fight and most likely will go to the judges' scorecards.

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Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

Benn is a 154 lbs, unless Spence will really stick to this division, they might fight in the future.

Or maybe Spence will still be at 147 lbs because he has unfinished business there.

Connor Benn is actually campaigning at 147. He just tried to move up to 154 in order to meet halfway with Chris Eubank Jr. who's from 160. But I am not really impressed with Connor Benn, I don't think he is on the same level as Bud, Spence, or the next generation like Ortiz Jr, Ennis, and Stanionis.

I haven't delved much into the issue of Benn. But this is what the most corrupt sanctioning body of boxing is expected to do. Mauricio Sulaiman is all about money and makes no difference with his late father. He cannot even further control his itch for money and is able to grant a belt to the winner of Jake Paul and Tommy Fury. The winner becomes the WBC Diarrhea champion.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

Yes, and what's funny is, everyone is talking about him beating Manny, because he has all the advantage and then the trash talk his way on that fight to the put that he really belittles the Legend. But look at what happen to him, he can't beat a past prime Pacquiao and even handed his ass down on the canvass? And then he went on this comeback fight a 140 lbs boxer that Gervonta Davis knock down several times, cut his face and beat him badly and score a tko in 11th. So what more can we ask for Thurman fighting a prime Spence? So we shouldn't be surprised if he get knock down again or even lost by ko/tko.

All will be concluded when the fight happens. Thurman might give Spence something that fans will enjoy, but just like what you
mentioned, it will not be surprising if Spence KO him.

A prime Spence with speed and a power punch combination, it's a tough opponent to beat,
that last look at how Spence played with Ugas. That is something that Thurman needs to
work and analyze on how to counter and how to beat.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 24, 2023, 10:49:14 AM

Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

If there is someone that Conor Benn should target, it's be his domestic rival Eubank Jr. They supposedly to fight, until Benn was supposedly caught with PEDs. And so that fight is cancelled and they look for Liam Smith as a replacement. Unfortunately, Smith knockout Eubank.

Quote from: freedomgo on February 24, 2023, 02:36:06 PM

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

Benn is a 154 lbs, unless Spence will really stick to this division, they might fight in the future.

Or maybe Spence will still be at 147 lbs because he has unfinished business there.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 24, 2023, 10:49:14 AM

Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

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About the weight division, it is really a surprise that Thurman agreed to the demand of Spence to fight in Junior Middleweight[1] when the World Boxing council ordered Errol Spence Jr. to defend the title against Thurman[2]. I wonder what drives Thurman to accept the fight in that division.

From my point of view, Keith Thurman is really one of the possible boxers that Errol Spence might fight next, but on 147.

Since Spence considered moving up at 154 and Thurman as well, they decide instead to let the fight happen at 154 instead.

Anyways, their fight at 154 is a "NON-TITLE" bout and just about money-making lol.

It is a fact that now with everything that they have speculated about this fight happening, but really I am someone who does not care much about how the fight takes place, if it is in 147, 154 that does not matter to me, for me what counts is the match and that it be exciting, that the boxers look good, what matters is that the fight is quite exciting and that they can put on a great show, in the same way, with a title or without a title, the bets will be very hot to be able to see which is the winner

I like it because I have seen many who are supporting Thurman, and that is encouraging, because now other points of view can be seen.

Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

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On February 23, one day after Conor Benn was cleared of any wrongdoing by the WBC, the feisty welterweight from Essex got involved in a Twitter spat with WBC, WBA and IBF World champion Errol Spence Jr.

The Brit and the Amerian got into an argument over Benn's recent failed drug tests, which were explained by an excess of eggs consumed during training camps.

Here's what was said:
BBBoC release statement on WBC's ruling over Conor Benn
WBC issue official statement on their ruling over Conor Benn failed drug tests
Harley Benn defends brother Conor: "I know my brother and I know he's not a drugs cheat"

Source: https://britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/reinstated-by-the-wbc-conor-benn-immediately-goes-after-errol-spence-jr

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

Yes, and what's funny is, everyone is talking about him beating Manny, because he has all the advantage and then the trash talk his way on that fight to the put that he really belittles the Legend. But look at what happen to him, he can't beat a past prime Pacquiao and even handed his ass down on the canvass? And then he went on this comeback fight a 140 lbs boxer that Gervonta Davis knock down several times, cut his face and beat him badly and score a tko in 11th. So what more can we ask for Thurman fighting a prime Spence? So we shouldn't be surprised if he get knock down again or even lost by ko/tko.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I think in another level means an elevated performance. He was expecting that both boxers will up their gameplay and perform better than before which I think is possible, But one thing I am thinking if Thurman will do his best now that they are fighting in an upper-weight division without any title at stake.

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You got a point there mate, but the thing is, I don't think that Errol Spence is willing to take a defeat this time against a boxer who just got back from a long lay-off. I mean, why would he not bring his usual energy? A defeat will certainly mean something for him directly as his name and value will depreciate for sure. Either way, yes, Keith Thurman really do stand a chance against the prime Spence but let's see how will he handle the situation.

Obviously, Errol Spence doesn't want his record to have a blemish, any boxer with a perfect record will always be wanted to preserve that, the only question is, if they have the capability.

We can take a look and compare the previous performances of these two boxers and it is clear that Errol Spence has the upper hand. Keith Thurman has no place as an opponent for Spence in this situation. But in terms of money, Thurman can match someone who is also popular and make a lot of money even if he losses. After this matchup, Thurman can quit his boxing career and live with his millions from boxing. Errol Spence would never permit Thurman to win. Spence will bring his high level game and will keep on advancing in order to eliminate Thurman, who has just returned from a lengthy absence.

Saying that Errol Spence Jr. has an upper hand in this fight is believable, but saying that Keith Thurman has no place to face Spence is quite a statement from you mate. Too early to say that because this is no Butler vs Inoue fight, and even in this fight that Thurman's chances is not that good, it is not yet guaranteed that chances will always prevail as we really don't know what will happen once these two boxers will share the ring. Anyway, I'm just saying that we never know for sure.

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Just like Lomachenko, he also preferred to have a safer bout rather than pursuing the fight and suffer the consequence later. I believe Keith Thurman had the same vision as that fight was just their comeback fight, not a huge comeback that we expected but I guess they are just taking their time to adjust from their inactivity. Their upcoming fight will determine if their comeback bout was already saying it all or not.

They are lucky to have this big comeback as the win here will surely put them on the top. Especially for Thurman who is not a champion anymore but still think he can go toe to toe against the champions in this division, no belts, it's quite unfair, but that's how it is, as long as Thurman wins, then he'll just thread what's next for him which I believe a very good future.

Some people say that Thurman is not anymore in his prime, but they failed to understand that Thurman only has one loss, though his last win isn't that convincing we have to base it on numbers. Thurman might have one loss but I'm sure he is proud of that loss as he was able to fight the one and only 8th division champion, it was an honor for him.

Now, this is the real fight, fans should not think Spence will have this fight easily win because I don't see that happening.

Well, Thurman in this case needs to win, yes, many things have been said about him, and there could have been a lot of speculation, it's normal, also in boxing that's a give and take, I've been looking for a lot of information about this fight , to see how the training of both has been, but there is little information in fact in the boxing forums they speculate a lot that whoever will win will be Spence, I don't know, I think that Spence has a lot of fame, reputation and that makes things flow and come to that conclusion.

Personally I would like Thurman to win to see how things would develop from then on, it would be nice to see that scenario.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 23, 2023, 12:47:43 AM

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

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