Topic: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman - page 18. (Read 7339 times)

I wish he could do that so that Spence will no longer have the reason to avoid Crawford and unfortunately that would be less interesting anymore because it's not a fight to save the clean record for both of them anymore but for Crawford only. Anyway, let's just see how will it turn out with this upcoming fight and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.

Well I can't find another way to see Spence's refusal against Crawford not to fight him, Crawford has been urging him to fight Spence for a long time, and in fact last year I know that all those months Crawford was looking for the fight and training enough to fight him, Spence's refusal causes a lot of controversy because this is partly not very well seen, it is seen as a fear, in boxing these things are not seen well, however now everything points to Thurman, my doubt is The next; If Thurman does the unthinkable thing which is to beat Spence, then how would Spence fare against Crawford? easier for Crawford to get that fight?

Eddie Hearn talks Spence vs Thurman, Canelo vs Bivol rematch, Kell Brook, and more




Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/2/6/23587654/eddie-hearn-talks-spence-vs-thurman-canelo-vs-bivol-rematch-kell-brook-and-more-boxing-news-2023

Funny to think that even the organization is not willing to make this fight to happen, they are protecting Spence who really doing
his best in avoiding the negotiation against Crawford.

Like what you mentioned, instead of discussing the fight with Crawford, his camp and the organization push the fight against Thurman.

Not a title fight but still good as Thurman is not an easy opponent to beat up, Spence will be tested now if he can KO Thurman
with his speed and solid punches.

Yes, I think it will be that way, I don't see any other way, Thurman will also seek to keep the title, he is a boxer who looks like he really wants it, but I say something, where Thurman beats Spence it would be like a bump for everything, as for himself as well as for the high rollers, because I have not seen much support for Thurman, some in their mocking tone say that this will be like an exhibition for Spence, sometimes we can be very sure of a result due to the high category of a boxer, but it is not good to underestimate the other so much, I say that if he is there it is for something and because he has a sufficient level.


This is something that sometimes I don't understand, I don't know how bad it is that he has to fight against Crawford, what we have here is something that Spence can play or not, in the case that we have seen in boxing, Inoue already does He did it to rise in the category, the fact of renouncing his titles did nothing to him, and this is something he assumed without any oprble, I think that these things are viable to do, first because he knows that those titles continue to renounce them even Being his, I think the same thing could happen to Spence, and just not seeing Crawford is something that I don't think is worth it, that's how I see it.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

I am hopeful that this fight between him and Spence can take place, because the fights that await Spence he can lose, he is not a robot or a demolition machine, he is a human, and just as he has great strength and a great technique can have a boxer who is or has prepared much better than him and surprises him, what happens is that right now Spence has a privileged position, as long as he continues to win fights he can almost choose who to fight with, and with whom It can have a higher degree of fame, although for us fans we would love a great rematch, this is something that only they can decide.

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Beterbiev vs. Bivol is bigger than Spence vs. Crawford says Eddie Hearn






Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/beterbiev-vs-bivol-is-bigger-than-spence-vs-crawford-says-eddie-hearn/

Terence Crawford is currently a free agent. How can he even secure a big deal with expected generated income? Spence won't bother with the money as it's clear he just wants to protect his record and maybe buy some time to delay the mega bout.

To secure a mega big bout, it's more possible to happen if big known promoters will try to do a negotiation for it. Boxing is a business and not just a legacy.

Crawford is defending his title 6 times already that's why he wants to get out on that. Chasing the unification fight against Spence is the better thing to do at this point of his career and nothing else even Spence's camp does have other priorities and likely will stay at 154 after the fight against Thurman.

More on this kind of speculation and opinions, Spence is not concern about the money but more on the belt and his undisputed records, seems
that he doesn't want to let it go that's why him and his camp still ignoring Crawford's desire to fight.

For now, the chance of getting positive possibilities regarding to this possible fight is still far from reality, Spence's camp is not willing to take the offer.

Crawford's decision to keep making money from fights that he will get is enough while he's still young and capable to fight.

What if Spence main concern is that he might lose in the fight, and though he will make a lot of money but his undefeated record will be at stake, and the moment that 0 will be 1, his value to demand will not be as effective as now. Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

I believe the same goes with Spence, Spence will never unify the title if he don't fight Crawford.  Sure, Spence is younger than Crawford but the fact that his camp don't like to face Crawford for the unification bout, they are also wasting their time.  What if the next one to hold the title of WBO welterweight belt is better than Crawford and much younger, Spence would be regretting his camp's decision of docking a fight against Crawford.


There is no sense to chase a unification fight if the other party is not interested.  The more Crawford camp chase for the fight, the more Spence will deny them the chance and it will make them look like a fool.  If I am Crawford's promoter, I'll just make a deal that will make huge income making Spence camp reconsider their actions.

You can say that easily because we are just a speculator here. I don't get why it's easy for you to say that he should forget about that fight against Spence. Crawford is not playing a kid boxing here and fighting Spence is the biggest fight he always wanted even during his tenure under Bob Arum. It does not make sense for him to just accept challenges from anyone. Not all the time he will just defend his belt as he also needs to chase new titles.

There's no way Spence will look for Crawford for a fight as for him there's no big reason to do it. That's why Crawford is the one aggressive for that fight to happen. If Crawford does have another better choice and option, why he will push for Spence's fight? But none.

As for most boxing fans, we like to see Crawford facing Spence someday and I won't give up waiting for that moment.

Obviously, to fully unified the Welterweight titles, no choice for Crawford but to eagerly hope that someday Spence will fight him. It's not that Crawford is just focused on Spence without a big reason. Since Spence holds the 3 titles, Crawford needs to chase those titles as he is building a legacy. Kind of a waste if he will just move up without trying to achieve those 3 titles that Spence holds.

And looked where he end up? Fighting a non-popular boxer in replacement for the supposed fight with Spence. As much as they could, it was not wrong for Crawford's camp to keep chasing Spence as that was a mandatory thing to do.

But for that to happen, Crawford needs a solid promoter to take care of the negotiation.

He wanted to unify all the belts and prove that he is the best fighter in this division, it's something that most fighters who wanted to be known before they will retire.

But sad to say that Spence have other thing in mind and he wanted to keep his belt and his undisputted
records, he have his excuses and he don't want to commit and negotiate to initiate this kind of fight.

Agree with that, Crawford wants to proved something because some still think that Spence is better than him since Spence has more belts compared to him. So he was asking for an undisputed fight to know who is the better fighter, but like what happened, it seemed like Spence is dodging him by making lots of excuses.

You know, let's just understand Crawford's decision if he is still chasing with Spence because if we are on his shoes, I bet we will want the same thing too even if there are still other food on the table for us to choose from. What Spence have was the only lacking thing that Crawford need in-order to be the first back-to-back undisputed champion and to make a history.

Actually that's what he did, although he fought a less known fighter in Avanesyan after the fall out of the him and Spence negotiations. So probably he will continue to fight at 147 lbs and welcome all challengers, maybe the likes of Ortiz or Ennis (if he can still negotiate with PBC and Al Haymon). Or there is a picture of him and Oscar so perhaps there is an offer to fight under the banner or fight someone under GBP. So a lot of things are in the table for Crawford although the fight that we wanted is him and Spence.

I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.

He will still be the same Thurman I guess, again using his mouth against Spence, and since both are American for sure Spence is going to bark back if Thurman trash talk.

Yes I do agree that the Manny fight he is not the same, he also says that he has problems with his hands after and that they have to go to surgery again and so this could have also a big effect on him against Barrios and that's why his performance is below par. Regardless though, that hand problem seems to be bothering him a bit and I might say that he doesn't have that power that he had because of his bad hand. It took them months for the both to heal and fuse according to him.

But in reality, I didn't even see a bit of learning after that loss.

As I said, it seems that the loss against Manny gives a heavy toll on him and just easily decides to go on hiatus from boxing and even training. When he returns to the ring after I think, 30+ months, boxing enthusiast really shows a big difference from his usual him.

Regardless though, what happened already happened.

Going back to his fight against Spence, I don't know what strategies Thurman has to somehow give problems against the much dominant Spence.

I also read some article about that, he really ashamed of that lost since he really so confident that he will beat an aging Pacquiao, but things didn't go to his direction he manage to try winning the fight but the early Knock down gave Pacquiao a decent lead.

If he did manage to equal that knock down, I think the outcome would be in his favor. He has a good
rally and the age factor of Pacquiao was exposed during the last few rounds. It so happened that
Pacquiao manage to end the fight without a knockdown, so he wins the fight.