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Quote from: harizen on April 29, 2023, 05:18:14 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 29, 2023, 08:09:05 AM

I agree, boxing is now pure business, rival networks can't work with each other unless the fight is big and they are going to get 50/50, like in the Floyd vs Manny fight.

Building a legacy of a boxer is now always associated with the business. In fairness though, big networks and promoters are the only ones capable of organizing a big fight. Their influence can make a boxing fight generates a big revenue. The market strategy is a critical part of promoting a certain that's why they are doing everything and using all their resources to sell a fight.

As per Crawford, I don't blame him for being frustrated during his tenure at the Top Rank that's why he decided to part ways with Bob Arum but remaining a free agent is not really a good idea. He should at least consider finding another promoter.

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I cannot blame a lot of people saying boxing is dying probably because there are big fights that are not happening. But the truth is boxing is still very much alive with purses getting bigger than ever. Before, there was only HBO and Showtime as the giant networks. Today we have DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime. The big difference before was the promoters can present big fights to either HBO or Showtime without much of a problem unlike nowadays.

I honestly think that Crawford did well under Top Rank. All his achievements during his days with Top Rank should be enough to enter the Hall of Fame soon. With or without Bob Arum, the Spence fight is not materializing and it even made him more inactive. I am not sure who's to blame that they went separate ways but I did do not like this very old version of Arum. Arum is in his 90s already and he seems too frank in public even hurting the image of his own fighters like when he mentioned before that he kept losing in some of Crawford's fights, and that Teofimo Lopez can go if someone overpays him. Or it could be Arum being old school is being conservative when it comes to money.

By the way @Kemarit, your wish seems granted. Tank is now #10 ranked by the Ring. Crazy! Cheesy

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2023, 07:58:19 AM

The biggest issue in boxing nowadays is corruption. It is obvious that it is not easy to make fights between rival networks and promotions. But it should've been doable at times if only these sanctioning bodies are capable of strictly enforcing their rules.

If a mandatory is announced which includes a deadline, the sanctioning body should issue a purse bid if no agreement within the deadline. If the champion is not interested then he should be stripped of his belt and let ranked #1 and #2 make a deal and pursue a bid if necessary. It is that simple. However, these sanctioning bodies especially the WBA and WBC are too money-oriented which is why they do not want to pressure these big networks, powerful promoters, and boxing stars. The IBF is probably the most reliable although currently, it seems like it is also heading into the WBA and WBC direction.

In terms of Crawford vs Spence, there's no issue on networks and promotions anymore because Crawford himself left Bob Arum's roof just to increase the chances of fighting Spence because he already knew that while he's still with Arum, the fight is practically hard to materialize. But even after what Crawford did, he was just toyed by the opposite camp.

And then we got this mandatory WBA mandatory title defense fight for Spence vs Thurman but instead of fighting at 147, Spence took it to the next weight class where he got no belts to defend and what's funny is he even got an approval from the WBA to move the fight at 154. Now what? Spence himself obtained an advantage on that because there's no pressure at all to materialize the fight because he can't be stripped of the belts at 154 as there was no belts in the first place in that weight class.

A good way to delay everything hahaha Roll Eyes

but kidding aside, it should be the organization that needs to be forced to bring a fight
to whoever is holding the belt.

It's their jurisdiction to give fans a chance to see a title defense either to see a new owner of the belts or to see the current champ to make a good defense.

But, we don't see any action aside from keep favoring Spence's side, with regard to Crawford and Thurman, we don't hear anything until now.

It is indeed the jurisdiction of sanctioning bodies to order a title defense for the title holder and that is why in the case of Spence, it seems that the WBA is on their payroll because they managed to the WBA's approval to move the recent title defense at 154 which doesn't really make sense at all and instead of gaining respect, WBA became an embarrassment to the industry because of what happened.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 29, 2023, 12:46:34 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2023, 07:58:19 AM

The biggest issue in boxing nowadays is corruption. It is obvious that it is not easy to make fights between rival networks and promotions. But it should've been doable at times if only these sanctioning bodies are capable of strictly enforcing their rules.

If a mandatory is announced which includes a deadline, the sanctioning body should issue a purse bid if no agreement within the deadline. If the champion is not interested then he should be stripped of his belt and let ranked #1 and #2 make a deal and pursue a bid if necessary. It is that simple. However, these sanctioning bodies especially the WBA and WBC are too money-oriented which is why they do not want to pressure these big networks, powerful promoters, and boxing stars. The IBF is probably the most reliable although currently, it seems like it is also heading into the WBA and WBC direction.

In terms of Crawford vs Spence, there's no issue on networks and promotions anymore because Crawford himself left Bob Arum's roof just to increase the chances of fighting Spence because he already knew that while he's still with Arum, the fight is practically hard to materialize. But even after what Crawford did, he was just toyed by the opposite camp.

And then we got this mandatory WBA mandatory title defense fight for Spence vs Thurman but instead of fighting at 147, Spence took it to the next weight class where he got no belts to defend and what's funny is he even got an approval from the WBA to move the fight at 154. Now what? Spence himself obtained an advantage on that because there's no pressure at all to materialize the fight because he can't be stripped of the belts at 154 as there was no belts in the first place in that weight class.

A good way to delay everything hahaha Roll Eyes

but kidding aside, it should be the organization that needs to be forced to bring a fight
to whoever is holding the belt.

It's their jurisdiction to give fans a chance to see a title defense either to see a new owner of the belts or to see the current champ to make a good defense.

But, we don't see any action aside from keep favoring Spence's side, with regard to Crawford and Thurman, we don't hear anything until now.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 02, 2023, 08:18:07 PM

The truth seems to me that Spence is not very well regarded from a sporting point of view, I don't know why he doesn't give him a rematch, ...

Wait, who is the fighter that you are referring to that Spence should give a rematch to? Is it Thurman? Because the last time I checked, they haven't fought yet. Thurman has only one defeat, and that came from Pacman. Thurman and Spence have a similarity in that they both beat Shawn Porter, but I can say that Thurman did better compared to Spence.

Anyhow, regardless of who he is referring to, the fact that this fight is not really going to happen or at least what they are promoting in the Tank vs Davis that Spence is going to fight Crawford was obviously a promotional stunt.

So both Spence and Thurman have a long layoffs already. Maybe they will fight in the future, or maybe not. I guess we should move on with Spence right now as he is really disappointing his fans and there are no legacy here except that in this era, we know that he ducks Crawford, not fighting his mandatory despite the organizations ordering it, or trying to set a precedence of supposedly 147 lbs champion fighting at 154 in here and with no belt on the line.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 02, 2023, 08:18:07 PM

The truth seems to me that Spence is not very well regarded from a sporting point of view, I don't know why he doesn't give him a rematch, ...

Wait, who is the fighter that you are referring to that Spence should give a rematch to? Is it Thurman? Because the last time I checked, they haven't fought yet. Thurman has only one defeat, and that came from Pacman. Thurman and Spence have a similarity in that they both beat Shawn Porter, but I can say that Thurman did better compared to Spence.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

Same as you mate, I honestly don't know as well whether that deal is real or not because we already had the same information few months back but look what happened, the deal suddenly went off out of nowhere when we are already expecting a positive news. No one knows what happened, some says that both camps had some misunderstanding and some even believe that Spence is not ready for that fight yet.

The truth seems to me that Spence is not very well regarded from a sporting point of view, I don't know why he doesn't give him a rematch, it should have Happened, even last year, but due to the World Cup Qatar I thought that world attention was going to go to the world and little to boxing, but right now this year this fight must happen, I would say that Spence is afraid of Crawford here, if he is avoiding this fight so much it is for that reason, However, saying it like this is something that not many fans use, but in this case I have no choice but to think about it.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 29, 2023, 08:09:05 AM

I agree, boxing is now pure business, rival networks can't work with each other unless the fight is big and they are going to get 50/50, like in the Floyd vs Manny fight.

Building a legacy of a boxer is now always associated with the business. In fairness though, big networks and promoters are the only ones capable of organizing a big fight. Their influence can make a boxing fight generates a big revenue. The market strategy is a critical part of promoting a certain that's why they are doing everything and using all their resources to sell a fight.

As per Crawford, I don't blame him for being frustrated during his tenure at the Top Rank that's why he decided to part ways with Bob Arum but remaining a free agent is not really a good idea. He should at least consider finding another promoter.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2023, 07:58:19 AM

The biggest issue in boxing nowadays is corruption. It is obvious that it is not easy to make fights between rival networks and promotions. But it should've been doable at times if only these sanctioning bodies are capable of strictly enforcing their rules.

If a mandatory is announced which includes a deadline, the sanctioning body should issue a purse bid if no agreement within the deadline. If the champion is not interested then he should be stripped of his belt and let ranked #1 and #2 make a deal and pursue a bid if necessary. It is that simple. However, these sanctioning bodies especially the WBA and WBC are too money-oriented which is why they do not want to pressure these big networks, powerful promoters, and boxing stars. The IBF is probably the most reliable although currently, it seems like it is also heading into the WBA and WBC direction.

In terms of Crawford vs Spence, there's no issue on networks and promotions anymore because Crawford himself left Bob Arum's roof just to increase the chances of fighting Spence because he already knew that while he's still with Arum, the fight is practically hard to materialize. But even after what Crawford did, he was just toyed by the opposite camp.

And then we got this mandatory WBA mandatory title defense fight for Spence vs Thurman but instead of fighting at 147, Spence took it to the next weight class where he got no belts to defend and what's funny is he even got an approval from the WBA to move the fight at 154. Now what? Spence himself obtained an advantage on that because there's no pressure at all to materialize the fight because he can't be stripped of the belts at 154 as there was no belts in the first place in that weight class.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2023, 07:58:19 AM

The biggest issue in boxing nowadays is corruption. It is obvious that it is not easy to make fights between rival networks and promotions. But it should've been doable at times if only these sanctioning bodies are capable of strictly enforcing their rules.

If a mandatory is announced which includes a deadline, the sanctioning body should issue a purse bid if no agreement within the deadline. If the champion is not interested then he should be stripped of his belt and let ranked #1 and #2 make a deal and pursue a bid if necessary. It is that simple. However, these sanctioning bodies especially the WBA and WBC are too money-oriented which is why they do not want to pressure these big networks, powerful promoters, and boxing stars. The IBF is probably the most reliable although currently, it seems like it is also heading into the WBA and WBC direction.

I agree, boxing is now pure business, rival networks can't work with each other unless the fight is big and they are going to get 50/50, like in the Floyd vs Manny fight. As for the corruption, oh well, Sulaiman has been in the helm of WBC ever since and most likely started this corruption in boxing. As you can see, lots of belt right now and most likely the belt holders or at least their promoters might have paid Sulaiman to declare them as champions. And then we have corrupt judges as well. So it's like a domino effect in boxing, cash cows are protected by the organization and not going to be force to fight their mandatory just in the case of Spence here.

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The biggest issue in boxing nowadays is corruption. It is obvious that it is not easy to make fights between rival networks and promotions. But it should've been doable at times if only these sanctioning bodies are capable of strictly enforcing their rules.

If a mandatory is announced which includes a deadline, the sanctioning body should issue a purse bid if no agreement within the deadline. If the champion is not interested then he should be stripped of his belt and let ranked #1 and #2 make a deal and pursue a bid if necessary. It is that simple. However, these sanctioning bodies especially the WBA and WBC are too money-oriented which is why they do not want to pressure these big networks, powerful promoters, and boxing stars. The IBF is probably the most reliable although currently, it seems like it is also heading into the WBA and WBC direction.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 28, 2023, 03:57:08 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 28, 2023, 10:43:41 AM

Congratulations to Errol Spence, he is now inactive for a year. Maybe it is best for boxing if he stays inactive for a while. If there is no Thurman or Crawford as his next opponent, he should be stripped of his WBC. I doubt he will face Jaron Ennis after a year of inactivity, so hopefully, the IBF belt will strip him too. The WBA also has a regular champ in Stanionis which is enough to warrant as a mandatory but corrupt Mendoza is buying Spence some time and mandates a fight against Vergil Ortiz. I really hate seeing Ortiz and Stanionis fighting each other at this early stage of their careers. Maybe Ortiz should pursue the WBO belt. I want to see Ortiz, Stanionis, and Ennis become champions and then face each other in unification bouts.

He's already inactive for a year already since 16th of April because that was his last fight versus Yordenis Ugas.

As of this point, I don't know what to say anymore because the boxing industry is getting more and more corrupt as instead of giving the people the entertainment for the fight they wanted, these sanctioning bodies are even under someone else's payroll to help a boxer retain their belt for a much longer time without having any fights in the process. This should change because people will lost slowly lost interest towards the boxers and its industry if this issue drags on.

Yeah right, he's a defending champ and he should let someone to try to take it and strip it from him. He should be fighting now
to defend his belt and give the entertainment to all the fans and viewers who love seeing his greatness.

following you with your statement regarding to those part of organization who keep him away from any big fights that will test him when protecting the belts, Crawford or Thurman might give him a hard time for sure.

But still, there's no schedule, or any forced attempts from the organization to deal him to whoever deserves the chance of winning the title.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 28, 2023, 03:57:08 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 28, 2023, 10:43:41 AM

Congratulations to Errol Spence, he is now inactive for a year. Maybe it is best for boxing if he stays inactive for a while. If there is no Thurman or Crawford as his next opponent, he should be stripped of his WBC. I doubt he will face Jaron Ennis after a year of inactivity, so hopefully, the IBF belt will strip him too. The WBA also has a regular champ in Stanionis which is enough to warrant as a mandatory but corrupt Mendoza is buying Spence some time and mandates a fight against Vergil Ortiz. I really hate seeing Ortiz and Stanionis fighting each other at this early stage of their careers. Maybe Ortiz should pursue the WBO belt. I want to see Ortiz, Stanionis, and Ennis become champions and then face each other in unification bouts.

He's already inactive for a year already since 16th of April because that was his last fight versus Yordenis Ugas.

As of this point, I don't know what to say anymore because the boxing industry is getting more and more corrupt as instead of giving the people the entertainment for the fight they wanted, these sanctioning bodies are even under someone else's payroll to help a boxer retain their belt for a much longer time without having any fights in the process. This should change because people will lost slowly lost interest towards the boxers and its industry if this issue drags on.

I know it is not an april's fool but I wonder whether the boxing council is implementing prank announcement to the boxing fans. Aside from this fight having no news, the rumors about the Crawford and Spence Jr. seems dead now. it is frustrating when the boxing council does not regulate news like this. They should be the first one to verify if the announcement will pursue or not and not let it done by the boxers.

I am wondering what is their function if they will not say anything about these kinds of situations. Like when they announced a mandatory title def by spence Jr. against Thurman then the two decided on the 154 lbs. The boxing council authority is becoming a joke nowadays.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 28, 2023, 10:43:41 AM

Congratulations to Errol Spence, he is now inactive for a year. Maybe it is best for boxing if he stays inactive for a while. If there is no Thurman or Crawford as his next opponent, he should be stripped of his WBC. I doubt he will face Jaron Ennis after a year of inactivity, so hopefully, the IBF belt will strip him too. The WBA also has a regular champ in Stanionis which is enough to warrant as a mandatory but corrupt Mendoza is buying Spence some time and mandates a fight against Vergil Ortiz. I really hate seeing Ortiz and Stanionis fighting each other at this early stage of their careers. Maybe Ortiz should pursue the WBO belt. I want to see Ortiz, Stanionis, and Ennis become champions and then face each other in unification bouts.

I believe the boxing authority must make their move now. they have given Spence too much favor especially when they decided to agree with the 154 lbs fight between Thurman and Spence Jr.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 28, 2023, 10:43:41 AM

Congratulations to Errol Spence, he is now inactive for a year. Maybe it is best for boxing if he stays inactive for a while. If there is no Thurman or Crawford as his next opponent, he should be stripped of his WBC. I doubt he will face Jaron Ennis after a year of inactivity, so hopefully, the IBF belt will strip him too. The WBA also has a regular champ in Stanionis which is enough to warrant as a mandatory but corrupt Mendoza is buying Spence some time and mandates a fight against Vergil Ortiz. I really hate seeing Ortiz and Stanionis fighting each other at this early stage of their careers. Maybe Ortiz should pursue the WBO belt. I want to see Ortiz, Stanionis, and Ennis become champions and then face each other in unification bouts.

He's already inactive for a year already since 16th of April because that was his last fight versus Yordenis Ugas.

As of this point, I don't know what to say anymore because the boxing industry is getting more and more corrupt as instead of giving the people the entertainment for the fight they wanted, these sanctioning bodies are even under someone else's payroll to help a boxer retain their belt for a much longer time without having any fights in the process. This should change because people will lost slowly lost interest towards the boxers and its industry if this issue drags on.

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Congratulations to Errol Spence, he is now inactive for a year. Maybe it is best for boxing if he stays inactive for a while. If there is no Thurman or Crawford as his next opponent, he should be stripped of his WBC. I doubt he will face Jaron Ennis after a year of inactivity, so hopefully, the IBF belt will strip him too. The WBA also has a regular champ in Stanionis which is enough to warrant as a mandatory but corrupt Mendoza is buying Spence some time and mandates a fight against Vergil Ortiz. I really hate seeing Ortiz and Stanionis fighting each other at this early stage of their careers. Maybe Ortiz should pursue the WBO belt. I want to see Ortiz, Stanionis, and Ennis become champions and then face each other in unification bouts.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 21, 2023, 08:03:54 AM

Quote from: Botnake on April 20, 2023, 07:59:41 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

Same as you mate, I honestly don't know as well whether that deal is real or not because we already had the same information few months back but look what happened, the deal suddenly went off out of nowhere when we are already expecting a positive news. No one knows what happened, some says that both camps had some misunderstanding and some even believe that Spence is not ready for that fight yet.

Yes, everyone here is already tired of this going back and forth of Spence fighting Crawford and also Spence vs Thurman. It's already April and no fight is going to be made between anyone of them.

Just said that the governing body is not doing anything to force Spence to fight for his mandatory.

If he doesn't want to they should stripped him of his belt. That's how they've done before, perhaps the corruption is rampant that they are afraid to impose it because he is being handled by one of the most influential person in boxing right now, Al Haymon.

Just wait mate because if the Spence vs Crawford unification fight will not be announce this 22nd or any day of this month, the IBF will be forced to give him a mandatory fight against Boots Ennis because it's been a while since he had a mandatory defense on that belt. If we remember last year, Jaron Ennis petitioned towards IBF to get his title shot as he is the IBF interim holder now.

Now, if that happens and Spence will still try and buy some time, he will be stripped of that IBF belt and forced to vacate it. So that others will have their chance just like Ennis waiting for his shot.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 21, 2023, 08:03:54 AM

Quote from: Botnake on April 20, 2023, 07:59:41 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

Same as you mate, I honestly don't know as well whether that deal is real or not because we already had the same information few months back but look what happened, the deal suddenly went off out of nowhere when we are already expecting a positive news. No one knows what happened, some says that both camps had some misunderstanding and some even believe that Spence is not ready for that fight yet.

Yes, everyone here is already tired of this going back and forth of Spence fighting Crawford and also Spence vs Thurman. It's already April and no fight is going to be made between anyone of them.

Just said that the governing body is not doing anything to force Spence to fight for his mandatory.

If he doesn't want to they should stripped him of his belt. That's how they've done before, perhaps the corruption is rampant that they are afraid to impose it because he is being handled by one of the most influential person in boxing right now, Al Haymon.

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Most of the people loss their trust on Errol Spence, because of his latest game. Their game was not good, but he holding some belts it doesn’t matter for the current game. Now WBC was corrupted one, So many les active and less skill players was adopted to make some fun based boxing. The game of Thurman also averaged like Stanionis, Ortiz of their game. The game of Ducking was not compared to this players, because he had huge game since his 30s. So the best one among this game is Ducking Crawford in this list. Ducking Crawford was expected one and excellent skill based gamer. Errol had to improve the game to get back supports of the fans before the match. Before Errol fan base was huge compared to many players which included Thurman.

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Quote from: Botnake on April 20, 2023, 07:59:41 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

Same as you mate, I honestly don't know as well whether that deal is real or not because we already had the same information few months back but look what happened, the deal suddenly went off out of nowhere when we are already expecting a positive news. No one knows what happened, some says that both camps had some misunderstanding and some even believe that Spence is not ready for that fight yet.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 21, 2023, 12:42:54 AM

Quote from: Botnake on April 20, 2023, 07:59:41 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

I am tired of Errol Spence. We better not take things seriously when it is about him. Ducking Crawford for many years and still gets scared when Crawford is in his mid-30s and was inactive last year. Now corrupt WBC is giving him an easy mandatory against an inactive past prime Keith Thurman yet he still wants the fight at 154 so he cannot risk his belts which should not be the purpose of a mandatory defense.

I hope Spence gets hurt really bad so he will be out of boxing. Stanionis and Ortiz have overdue title shots due to Spence holding hostage of the belts. And there's also Ennis who already petitioned the IBF to enforce his mandatory status.

We never heard of anything yet, but I don't think that they are going to announce the fight between Spence and Crawford. There are too much intangibles that both might not willing to settle down, specially the money and the A-side of this fight.

And if this is true then we might not see Spence fight Thurman as well so his career might be stall, and I doubt as well that he will give in to the mandatories just to have a fight this year, just a total disappointment though in boxing right now.

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Quote from: Botnake on April 20, 2023, 07:59:41 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

I am tired of Errol Spence. We better not take things seriously when it is about him. Ducking Crawford for many years and still gets scared when Crawford is in his mid-30s and was inactive last year. Now corrupt WBC is giving him an easy mandatory against an inactive past prime Keith Thurman yet he still wants the fight at 154 so he cannot risk his belts which should not be the purpose of a mandatory defense.

I hope Spence gets hurt really bad so he will be out of boxing. Stanionis and Ortiz have overdue title shots due to Spence holding hostage of the belts. And there's also Ennis who already petitioned the IBF to enforce his mandatory status.

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