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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2023, 07:09:18 PM

so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

Is there assurance that this fight will happen?

According to this article below, it says that the deal is being finalized. However, it's not enough information. We need confirmation that the deal has already been finalized, so we can expect that the fight will really happen.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-a-deal-for-april-in-154-lb-fight/256670

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Yes, instead of making these fights easier to avoid conflicts in politics, Crawford's got the opposite outcome because his decision to leave the stable of Bob Arum seems to become his biggest nightmare now because he's not getting any good deals after that. I don't know what's the plan of Crawford because the last rumor months back was that he might sign under Eddie Hearn but nothing happened until now.

As far as I remember, Crawford being under the shadow of Top Rank, he is always actively fighting but the only problem is, Crawford didn't get what he wants of fighting a top-ranked boxer which he wants for a long time. Since he parted ways with Bob, not just he ends up fighting a non-popular boxer but also not active much in the ring compared to his Top Rank days.

Now that wee the outcome of his decision, does his decision to leave Arum, a good choice or not?

Although it may not seem like a good decision at the moment, he's still in his prime and could potentially negotiate bigger fights in the future. I'm sure he has no regrets about his decision since staying wouldn't have made him happy. It was a gamble that hasn't paid off yet, but as I mentioned earlier, there's still plenty of time for him to succeed.

Well, from all this, in my personal opinion, I think that here who should finally have the golden opportunity is Crawford against Spence, in fact in an article that I shared they said something like that, some say that it is not like that, that it was a fake article, but one thing is what can be speculated here and elsewhere, and another thing is what they are really negotiating, it may be that Crawford's insistence has been pressing the keys that are and is finally taken into consideration, so This fight between Spence and Thurman will only be an appetizer for what is to come, whoever wins, I think that the fight will be heard.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 17, 2023, 10:13:02 AM

Why do I feel that the time is very slow lately or maybe I'm just so curious and somehow excited as well what will be the final announcement, few days more to go.

You guys have any guess what would it be? My best guess is that the Thurman vs Spence will be cancelled as the latter isn't really that interested about their fight in the first place as maybe because Spence still didn't forgive Thurman as he was rejected back in the day when he still wasn't famous. And finally, the most awaited unification fight between Spence vs Crawford will happen.

Maybe yes and maybe also the reason why Thurman is so quiet maybe he already anticipating that the possible non-title fight will not happen and all the attention will be on the possible fight between Crawford and Spence, I'm also eyeing for this mega fight to happen, it's been a long waited negotiation that maybe will be settle and might have a final date to announce.

Still no confirmation though, and the only thing that fans can do is to wait for any updates if both camps already sign the contract.

I don't really know what is with Keith Thurman because he surely knew the real score about what happened on their negotiations or if there were indeed some negotiations happened at all. What I'm trying to say here is, I expected more from him than to wait about this fight that will just waste his time, it's surely obvious that Spence is not that interested in fighting him that's why they convinced the sanctioning bodies to take the fight in the weight class where there are no belts at risks for the champion.

And Thurman doesn't have that much time left on his clock because he already wasted years reflecting on that loss against Manny Pacquiao, and now he's wasting time again waiting for a fight that actually got more chances of not happening. At this point, he already know what to do, he's just dumber than I thought.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 17, 2023, 10:13:02 AM

Why do I feel that the time is very slow lately or maybe I'm just so curious and somehow excited as well what will be the final announcement, few days more to go.

You guys have any guess what would it be? My best guess is that the Thurman vs Spence will be cancelled as the latter isn't really that interested about their fight in the first place as maybe because Spence still didn't forgive Thurman as he was rejected back in the day when he still wasn't famous. And finally, the most awaited unification fight between Spence vs Crawford will happen.

Maybe yes and maybe also the reason why Thurman is so quiet maybe he already anticipating that the possible non-title fight will not happen and all the attention will be on the possible fight between Crawford and Spence, I'm also eyeing for this mega fight to happen, it's been a long waited negotiation that maybe will be settle and might have a final date to announce.

Still no confirmation though, and the only thing that fans can do is to wait for any updates if both camps already sign the contract.

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The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

When it comes to the revenue of the fight, they are still on the safe side because even if Spence is the most hated boxer in the industry right now which I think has an effect on his professional value, he is still matched against a boxer whom the people is also following (Crawford and Thurman) and besides, people will surely watch this fight because they are also hoping that Spence will learn his lesson. But as of now, let's just hope for the best because either way, it's still a win for us as we will witness another great fight.

Nothing that we can do and you are right in the end of the day it still the fans who will enjoy as we will going to witness a great matchup between fighters who really good inside the ring, two current champs and one former champ we are just waiting for any updates that will lead us to conclude if those said negotiations will materialized and who's going to face each other in the designated date.

Conclusion can take place once it was final and we already seeing fighters inside the ring. Looking forward to all the camps to negotiate and make things happen.

Why do I feel that the time is very slow lately or maybe I'm just so curious and somehow excited as well what will be the final announcement, few days more to go.

You guys have any guess what would it be? My best guess is that the Thurman vs Spence will be cancelled as the latter isn't really that interested about their fight in the first place as maybe because Spence still didn't forgive Thurman as he was rejected back in the day when he still wasn't famous. And finally, the most awaited unification fight between Spence vs Crawford will happen.

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You are right that mate, Pacquiao has 1 word if he said that he will fight then he will fight so When the promoter said that he is going to fight Spence jr. Then he trained and study the possible move and fighting skills of Spence but when the fight is near Spence the Actor made an issue in order to stop the fight and then he blackout and replace with the other prime boxer Ugas which is Pacquiao only have 2 weeks to study the fight of Ugas and that two weeks are too short and the result is pacman loss the fight but he fight with honor and it's okay to loss.

Now that Spence could potentially fight a real fighter who gave Pacman a tough challenge, I don't believe that he will easily beat Thurman. Thurman was once a champion and is coming back to reclaim his spot, so it will be a tough fight for Spence. I hope Spence does not make excuses this time around. Although it's a non-title fight as far as I know, he still has nothing to lose.

seems the possibility of this fight to happen is becoming real as the camps are negotiating this to happen this April. don't know if this will indeed proceed this coming month. we have no official news yet about the venue and actual date so don't know if this will indeed push thru. unofficial announcement says it will happen april 22 at AT &T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
spence wil be fighting outside his weight class so he doesn't need to worry about relinquishing his belts in case he will lose to thurman.

Hopefully there's no current issue from both fighters and this fight will happens after this month. And also Hopefully spence will not make a way to suspend this fight or else re sched this fight. And we all know that Spence is a good actor which is he will make a way to cancel the fight if he is not comfortable in his opponent. But we all know that thurman is not undefeated anymore so For sure Spence lesser his emotion that scared to thurman.

It's a shame about Thurman, but come on, here Spence is not the best of all the boxers in the world, he is a very intelligent boxer who knows how to face his opponents, I cannot deny that he has a great mind to forge the better strategies but we can't detract from everything Thurman has done either, moreover in boxing you win and lose, obviously when you lose it is more taken into consideration, but Spence cannot be compared to being superior to Thurman, the fight with him is Another story, Thurman could have lost, but the fight against him has not happened and anything can happen.

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@LUCKMCFLY, I hope this news is not fake. It would be a huge disappointment if the fight does not happen after all the anticipation and hype surrounding it. Let's hope they ensure that the fight takes place this time. Otherwise, it would be a waste of effort and time, and many fans might lose interest in boxing altogether.

I agree, I wouldn't put too much emphasized on that news, because it's just another clickbait article from that news site although it just pertain to boxing. And I have check other boxing sites and there are no reports about the Spence vs Crawford fight, so I would refrain from posting that kind of news until either of the announced it publicly that they are going to fight. The first negotiation is messy and we are all expecting that it will happen, but it didn't as it broke down because of the financials of the fight. So it's better to wait first before we all get excited.

Well, this is something that is not yet well known, sometimes there are many things that the other newscasts do not say, I do not think it is a clickbait because that article has a reliable source, however, they did this to manipulate possible bets in the future. Well, it's not bad, grabbing and playing with the emotions of the fans is something that can be used to keep them entertained, but honestly if I wanted it to be a fight, more than anything for Crawford and hopefully if it does,Crawford will win because He is a boxer who seems to be very eager to know, besides, I think it's about time, Spence is not the King of boxing to indulge himself so much.

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By Craig Daly: Bozy Ennis says his son Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis will face either Keith Thurman or Roiman Villa next. Boots Ennis is waiting to see what happens between IBF/WBA/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr and WBO champ Terence Crawford. Thurman (30-1, 22 KOs) is said to be the backup option for Spence to fight if he can’t put together the Crawford undisputed clash. If those two don’t fight, Spence must fight Boots or give up his IBF title. Spence is running out of time to make Crawford fight before he’s forced to make a decision about whether to keep his IBF title and face Ennis or vacate. The way it’s looking, Spence may relinquish his IBF belt rather than fight Boots. Ennis (30-0, 27 KOs) recently captured the interim IBF welterweight title with a one-sided twelve-round unanimous decision win over Karen Chukhadzhian (21-2, 11 KOs).

Source: Keith Thurman Or Roiman Villa Next For Jaron Ennis Possible - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/)

Source:https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/

Well, look at how the fate fate plays. Errol Spence Jr. is slowly haunted by his actions and now IBF is putting some serious pressures to make Spence fight Crawford or else he would need to fight Ennis if he doesn't want that IBF to be stripped of him without defending him. This is the kind of news that I want, the kind of news where it does have sense rather than talking a fights that is not yet sure if it will materialize or not. This news will serve as a warning for the 3-belt champion if he doesn't want to make any move.

That's the way it is, I think that a boxer, no matter how good he is, must accept rematches, it doesn't make sense to be one of the best in the world if he rejects rematches, I don't know if a boxer when he is very famous no longer wants to fight and dedicate himself only to his image or something, it's as if he forgot where he comes from or what they are made of, it seems to me that he has to get into the organizations to force them to fight against another, I don't see any point in it, it's as if he was afraid or that makes no difference the impression, despite the fact that he is a boxer who has a lot of strength and lacks nothing, must accept his rematches.

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@LUCKMCFLY, I hope this news is not fake. It would be a huge disappointment if the fight does not happen after all the anticipation and hype surrounding it. Let's hope they ensure that the fight takes place this time. Otherwise, it would be a waste of effort and time, and many fans might lose interest in boxing altogether.

I agree, I wouldn't put too much emphasized on that news, because it's just another clickbait article from that news site although it just pertain to boxing. And I have check other boxing sites and there are no reports about the Spence vs Crawford fight, so I would refrain from posting that kind of news until either of the announced it publicly that they are going to fight. The first negotiation is messy and we are all expecting that it will happen, but it didn't as it broke down because of the financials of the fight. So it's better to wait first before we all get excited.

Well, this is something that is not yet well known, sometimes there are many things that the other newscasts do not say, I do not think it is a clickbait because that article has a reliable source, however, they did this to manipulate possible bets in the future. Well, it's not bad, grabbing and playing with the emotions of the fans is something that can be used to keep them entertained, but honestly if I wanted it to be a fight, more than anything for Crawford and hopefully if it does,Crawford will win because He is a boxer who seems to be very eager to know, besides, I think it's about time, Spence is not the King of boxing to indulge himself so much.

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By Craig Daly: Bozy Ennis says his son Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis will face either Keith Thurman or Roiman Villa next. Boots Ennis is waiting to see what happens between IBF/WBA/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr and WBO champ Terence Crawford. Thurman (30-1, 22 KOs) is said to be the backup option for Spence to fight if he can’t put together the Crawford undisputed clash. If those two don’t fight, Spence must fight Boots or give up his IBF title. Spence is running out of time to make Crawford fight before he’s forced to make a decision about whether to keep his IBF title and face Ennis or vacate. The way it’s looking, Spence may relinquish his IBF belt rather than fight Boots. Ennis (30-0, 27 KOs) recently captured the interim IBF welterweight title with a one-sided twelve-round unanimous decision win over Karen Chukhadzhian (21-2, 11 KOs).

Source: Keith Thurman Or Roiman Villa Next For Jaron Ennis Possible - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/)

Source:https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/

Well, look at how the fate fate plays. Errol Spence Jr. is slowly haunted by his actions and now IBF is putting some serious pressures to make Spence fight Crawford or else he would need to fight Ennis if he doesn't want that IBF to be stripped of him without defending him. This is the kind of news that I want, the kind of news where it does have sense rather than talking a fights that is not yet sure if it will materialize or not. This news will serve as a warning for the 3-belt champion if he doesn't want to make any move.

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The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

When it comes to the revenue of the fight, they are still on the safe side because even if Spence is the most hated boxer in the industry right now which I think has an effect on his professional value, he is still matched against a boxer whom the people is also following (Crawford and Thurman) and besides, people will surely watch this fight because they are also hoping that Spence will learn his lesson. But as of now, let's just hope for the best because either way, it's still a win for us as we will witness another great fight.

Nothing that we can do and you are right in the end of the day it still the fans who will enjoy as we will going to witness a great matchup between fighters who really good inside the ring, two current champs and one former champ we are just waiting for any updates that will lead us to conclude if those said negotiations will materialized and who's going to face each other in the designated date.

Conclusion can take place once it was final and we already seeing fighters inside the ring. Looking forward to all the camps to negotiate and make things happen.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 29, 2023, 03:46:09 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2023, 09:10:59 PM

@LUCKMCFLY, I hope this news is not fake. It would be a huge disappointment if the fight does not happen after all the anticipation and hype surrounding it. Let's hope they ensure that the fight takes place this time. Otherwise, it would be a waste of effort and time, and many fans might lose interest in boxing altogether.

I agree, I wouldn't put too much emphasized on that news, because it's just another clickbait article from that news site although it just pertain to boxing. And I have check other boxing sites and there are no reports about the Spence vs Crawford fight, so I would refrain from posting that kind of news until either of the announced it publicly that they are going to fight. The first negotiation is messy and we are all expecting that it will happen, but it didn't as it broke down because of the financials of the fight. So it's better to wait first before we all get excited.

Well, this is something that is not yet well known, sometimes there are many things that the other newscasts do not say, I do not think it is a clickbait because that article has a reliable source, however, they did this to manipulate possible bets in the future. Well, it's not bad, grabbing and playing with the emotions of the fans is something that can be used to keep them entertained, but honestly if I wanted it to be a fight, more than anything for Crawford and hopefully if it does,Crawford will win because He is a boxer who seems to be very eager to know, besides, I think it's about time, Spence is not the King of boxing to indulge himself so much.

Keith Thurman or Roiman Villa next for Jaron Ennis possible

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By Craig Daly: Bozy Ennis says his son Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis will face either Keith Thurman or Roiman Villa next. Boots Ennis is waiting to see what happens between IBF/WBA/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr and WBO champ Terence Crawford. Thurman (30-1, 22 KOs) is said to be the backup option for Spence to fight if he can’t put together the Crawford undisputed clash. If those two don’t fight, Spence must fight Boots or give up his IBF title. Spence is running out of time to make Crawford fight before he’s forced to make a decision about whether to keep his IBF title and face Ennis or vacate. The way it’s looking, Spence may relinquish his IBF belt rather than fight Boots. Ennis (30-0, 27 KOs) recently captured the interim IBF welterweight title with a one-sided twelve-round unanimous decision win over Karen Chukhadzhian (21-2, 11 KOs).

Source: Keith Thurman Or Roiman Villa Next For Jaron Ennis Possible - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/)

Source:https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/keith-thurman-or-roiman-villa-next-for-jaron-ennis-possible/

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The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

When it comes to the revenue of the fight, they are still on the safe side because even if Spence is the most hated boxer in the industry right now which I think has an effect on his professional value, he is still matched against a boxer whom the people is also following (Crawford and Thurman) and besides, people will surely watch this fight because they are also hoping that Spence will learn his lesson. But as of now, let's just hope for the best because either way, it's still a win for us as we will witness another great fight.

Speaking of money, I think easy for both of them to earn at least $10 million guaranteed price for this fight alone, not including the PPV and then the live gates. The hate comes from the first fight not going thru because it seems that the camp of Spence is not ready yet and saying excuses that his legacy has been cemented without needing to fight Crawford, but that is all wrong. Now, he can correct that might by accepting this fight, and beat Bud Crawford, and if he can do that and unify the 147 lbs then that will really put him on top and have his legacy in boxing. Not fighting Thurman at 154 lbs and with all his belts not on the line.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 13, 2023, 10:56:17 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on April 13, 2023, 05:34:03 PM

The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

When it comes to the revenue of the fight, they are still on the safe side because even if Spence is the most hated boxer in the industry right now which I think has an effect on his professional value, he is still matched against a boxer whom the people is also following (Crawford and Thurman) and besides, people will surely watch this fight because they are also hoping that Spence will learn his lesson. But as of now, let's just hope for the best because either way, it's still a win for us as we will witness another great fight.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 13, 2023, 10:56:17 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on April 13, 2023, 05:34:03 PM

The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

Spence camp will choose between Thurman and Crawford and revenue wise taking Crawford will give him a huge profit, as we
know that it will be a unifying fight between him and Crawford.

Taking any of the two possible fights, Spence just need to pick which from those two big names will be a much easier to take.

If he will go with Thurman and delay the fight again with Crawford, still positive if he wins, then the negotiation with Crawford will give
him more money to take.

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Quote from: serjent05 on April 13, 2023, 05:34:03 PM

The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

He just needs to choose which one he will fight this year. If he goes with Crawford and wins, then there's no need to fight Thurman as they are not on the same level at that time. Let's not expect too much though, but this news gives a little light on the possibility of an anticipated matchup.

Either Spence or Thurman fight will happen, it's for sure an interesting fight to watch. So Spence has nothing to worry when it comes to the revenue of the fight.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 13, 2023, 12:38:52 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 13, 2023, 11:47:16 AM

Things have been messy lately especially if the name of Errol Spence Jr. is connected on it, I don't know what's with them these days because they kept on toying the boxers and seemingly not willing to give up the belt or give the other boxers a chance to hold it. I pity Thurman because he should be making some fights because time is not on his side anymore but Spence was connected to his name and hence why he wasn't able to make a fight after his return.

Yup, after Thurman's last fight instead of working his way for another fight, he was linked to fight Spence but there's no update if that mandatory fight will happen or he will end up facing another fighter if Spence decides to fight other fighter. Until then Thurman will continue to wait for any go signal if he will fight or he needs to wait long and like what you said, it's not in his favor as he is also aging now.

With the rumored scheduled fight between Spence Jr and Crawford, it is possible that the fight between Spence and Thurman will not happen if the said Spence Jr - Crawford fight is true. Or maybe the fight between Spence and Thurman might happen after Spence and Crawford fight. Who knows... these people keeps us in blind and speculate about the possible reasons of the fight.

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Now if the undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will happen, I bet it will be a huge one where the latter will literally make Spence pay and won't forget this fight by knocking him good in the ring because this fight is already personal as his time was wasted in the past few months. Moreover, Crawford got the advantage because he's still hot as he came from his tune-up fight recently while Spence here is turning 1 year inactive this coming 16th of April.

It will be a personal business between these two champ, if the negotiations will be closed and both fighters will agree with the contract for sure fans will be there to support both camps. Let see if what this time the negotiation will proceed and will have a close date with a sign contract between these two champs.

The rumor is strong that both camps had agreed to fight and even leaked. I do not know if the fight between Spence Jr. and Crawford will really happen because it looks like everything about Spence Jr. fight schedule is too vague. One is his scheduled fight against Thurman and now against Crawford. The schedule of this fight is overlapping and yet neither of these camps is releasing statements about whether they are true or not. Honestly, it is tiring to follow now.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 13, 2023, 12:38:52 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 13, 2023, 11:47:16 AM

Now if the undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will happen, I bet it will be a huge one where the latter will literally make Spence pay and won't forget this fight by knocking him good in the ring because this fight is already personal as his time was wasted in the past few months. Moreover, Crawford got the advantage because he's still hot as he came from his tune-up fight recently while Spence here is turning 1 year inactive this coming 16th of April.

It will be a personal business between these two champ, if the negotiations will be closed and both fighters will agree with the contract for sure fans will be there to support both camps. Let see if what this time the negotiation will proceed and will have a close date with a sign contract between these two champs.

I reckon, it's "let's see this time what will be Spence's reasons if this negotiation will fail again" Grin

Nah, just kidding!

On a serious note, I sure do hope that this time will be the last discussion where both camps will finally agree on the terms of the fight because the people have been waiting for this fight and hearing announcement this coming 22nd of the month that a fight will finally happen will surely make the fans, including me, glad and delighted.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 13, 2023, 11:47:16 AM

Things have been messy lately especially if the name of Errol Spence Jr. is connected on it, I don't know what's with them these days because they kept on toying the boxers and seemingly not willing to give up the belt or give the other boxers a chance to hold it. I pity Thurman because he should be making some fights because time is not on his side anymore but Spence was connected to his name and hence why he wasn't able to make a fight after his return.

Yup, after Thurman's last fight instead of working his way for another fight, he was linked to fight Spence but there's no update if that mandatory fight will happen or he will end up facing another fighter if Spence decides to fight other fighter. Until then Thurman will continue to wait for any go signal if he will fight or he needs to wait long and like what you said, it's not in his favor as he is also aging now.

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Now if the undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will happen, I bet it will be a huge one where the latter will literally make Spence pay and won't forget this fight by knocking him good in the ring because this fight is already personal as his time was wasted in the past few months. Moreover, Crawford got the advantage because he's still hot as he came from his tune-up fight recently while Spence here is turning 1 year inactive this coming 16th of April.

It will be a personal business between these two champ, if the negotiations will be closed and both fighters will agree with the contract for sure fans will be there to support both camps. Let see if what this time the negotiation will proceed and will have a close date with a sign contract between these two champs.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 10, 2023, 12:49:05 PM

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We can't tell which news or update that may bring enlightenment with what will be the plan. All we can do now is to wait.

This is correct. But we can safely say already that Spence fighting against Keith Thurman is not an option now.

If the April 22 announcement referring to the possible fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence is a failed one, I believed that Spence might fight another boxer but not Thurman, and it will be on the original plan of fighting at the 154.

Damn, so much drama involving Spence. He should go with the flow for damn sake.

EDIT: I tried to look for any fresh and recent news about Keith Thurman but it seems that all is silent on his side.

There's no timetable on the Spence vs Thurman fight that's why we cannot really see some updates or recent news about that bout, the last made update was already 2 months ago where it was confirmed Spence got a mandatory fight against Keith but they would take the fight at 154 and after that, no other news concerning that fight.

Now we got another rumored fight again, a undisputed fight at 147 between Spence vs Crawford. If I recall it correctly, there was also a rumored fight that Spence will take on Jermell Charlo which belongs to the same stable under Al Haymon.

There is just too many speculations involving Spence, so many that we don't know which is which anymore.

And then again, we can just speculate and wait if there's a fight that will happen involving the name of both Spence and Thurman, but for now this pending fight still don't have any clear details, no updates just like what you mentioned all are just rumors and all of them are connected to Spence.

Still no sign deal, which is very important to begin with, looking forward to any fight for Thurman or Spence or for this fight to proceed.

Things have been messy lately especially if the name of Errol Spence Jr. is connected on it, I don't know what's with them these days because they kept on toying the boxers and seemingly not willing to give up the belt or give the other boxers a chance to hold it. I pity Thurman because he should be making some fights because time is not on his side anymore but Spence was connected to his name and hence why he wasn't able to make a fight after his return.

Now if the undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will happen, I bet it will be a huge one where the latter will literally make Spence pay and won't forget this fight by knocking him good in the ring because this fight is already personal as his time was wasted in the past few months. Moreover, Crawford got the advantage because he's still hot as he came from his tune-up fight recently while Spence here is turning 1 year inactive this coming 16th of April.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2023, 09:10:59 PM

@LUCKMCFLY, I hope this news is not fake. It would be a huge disappointment if the fight does not happen after all the anticipation and hype surrounding it. Let's hope they ensure that the fight takes place this time. Otherwise, it would be a waste of effort and time, and many fans might lose interest in boxing altogether.

I also hope so, because that fight would be the best of the year for me, even more so with Crawford's desire to fight Spence, I think this is happening because Spence in particular must be receiving a lot of criticism and obviously one of these things as a good fan and also those who have Practiced the sport see it as something of cowardice, or as that fear of fighting, and that is very serious and if they start with something like that, the reputation of any boxer Falls to the ground and it is very difficult, they have to accept fight to clear all doubts.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 10, 2023, 11:35:10 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2023, 06:58:47 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 08, 2023, 05:19:43 PM

We can't tell which news or update that may bring enlightenment with what will be the plan. All we can do now is to wait.

This is correct. But we can safely say already that Spence fighting against Keith Thurman is not an option now.

If the April 22 announcement referring to the possible fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence is a failed one, I believed that Spence might fight another boxer but not Thurman, and it will be on the original plan of fighting at the 154.

Damn, so much drama involving Spence. He should go with the flow for damn sake.

EDIT: I tried to look for any fresh and recent news about Keith Thurman but it seems that all is silent on his side.

There's no timetable on the Spence vs Thurman fight that's why we cannot really see some updates or recent news about that bout, the last made update was already 2 months ago where it was confirmed Spence got a mandatory fight against Keith but they would take the fight at 154 and after that, no other news concerning that fight.

Now we got another rumored fight again, a undisputed fight at 147 between Spence vs Crawford. If I recall it correctly, there was also a rumored fight that Spence will take on Jermell Charlo which belongs to the same stable under Al Haymon.

There is just too many speculations involving Spence, so many that we don't know which is which anymore.

And then again, we can just speculate and wait if there's a fight that will happen involving the name of both Spence and Thurman, but for now this pending fight still don't have any clear details, no updates just like what you mentioned all are just rumors and all of them are connected to Spence.

Still no sign deal, which is very important to begin with, looking forward to any fight for Thurman or Spence or for this fight to proceed.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2023, 06:58:47 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 08, 2023, 05:19:43 PM

We can't tell which news or update that may bring enlightenment with what will be the plan. All we can do now is to wait.

This is correct. But we can safely say already that Spence fighting against Keith Thurman is not an option now.

If the April 22 announcement referring to the possible fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence is a failed one, I believed that Spence might fight another boxer but not Thurman, and it will be on the original plan of fighting at the 154.

Damn, so much drama involving Spence. He should go with the flow for damn sake.

EDIT: I tried to look for any fresh and recent news about Keith Thurman but it seems that all is silent on his side.

There's no timetable on the Spence vs Thurman fight that's why we cannot really see some updates or recent news about that bout, the last made update was already 2 months ago where it was confirmed Spence got a mandatory fight against Keith but they would take the fight at 154 and after that, no other news concerning that fight.

Now we got another rumored fight again, a undisputed fight at 147 between Spence vs Crawford. If I recall it correctly, there was also a rumored fight that Spence will take on Jermell Charlo which belongs to the same stable under Al Haymon.

There is just too many speculations involving Spence, so many that we don't know which is which anymore.

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