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Yes, instead of making these fights easier to avoid conflicts in politics, Crawford's got the opposite outcome because his decision to leave the stable of Bob Arum seems to become his biggest nightmare now because he's not getting any good deals after that. I don't know what's the plan of Crawford because the last rumor months back was that he might sign under Eddie Hearn but nothing happened until now.

As Crawford stated last November:

"I just blame the business of boxing. I don't blame myself for [even] one portion of the fight not being made. ... I felt like I agreed to everything that I needed to agree to. "I feel like I've done everything I'm supposed to do as an independent fighter to get that fight made. But there's only so much I can do."

It's clear and he understands as an independent fighter and a free agent that he will just agree to everything regardless if it's fair or not on his side just to make the big bout against Spence will be materialized. But still, the negotiations fail, and what else he can do now? So unfortunate that he ended up like that.

I actually appreciate and admire Crawford for doing that. He took that huge risk and dive right into it in-exchange for a small hope that the unification between him and Spence will somehow happen after he severe his ties with Bob Arum and Top Rank. He even said in the interview after the negotiations failed that he was willing to take as low as 30% slice just to make it happen because he actually believe that Bob Arum was the only hurdle left, that's why he took care of it.

Little did Crawford know that Al Haymon and Spence actually doesn't want to make that unification fight happen, I even believe Bob Arum knew it right from the start but Crawford's mind was fixed on that moment and decided to leave the promotional company.

Moving forward, it results in some not interesting fights for Crawford as a free agent.

It's really no doubt that a big promoter is always a must as it's clear that if a boxer wants to build a legacy, the business side can't be avoided. Seeing the recent news around the boxing community sites seems that Crawford finally got what he wanted and might possibly face Spence in June.

The official announcement will be on April 22.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 08, 2023, 05:19:43 PM

We can't tell which news or update that may bring enlightenment with what will be the plan. All we can do now is to wait.

This is correct. But we can safely say already that Spence fighting against Keith Thurman is not an option now.

If the April 22 announcement referring to the possible fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence is a failed one, I believed that Spence might fight another boxer but not Thurman, and it will be on the original plan of fighting at the 154.

Damn, so much drama involving Spence. He should go with the flow for damn sake.

EDIT: I tried to look for any fresh and recent news about Keith Thurman but it seems that all is silent on his side.

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Honestly, I really don't expect that this fight will push through nor about the fight that just surfaced lately, the Crawford-Spence unification fight. It's truly hard to consider these two bouts because of the image that Spence and Al Haymon portrayed in the industry right now, I can't blame anyone if ever they aren't convinced that a unification fight will suddenly happen out of nowhere.
And in this bout, if ever this will not happen, let's expect that Keith Thurman will have his own interview or statement saying whatever happened why the fight didn't materialized.

It's been circulating on the internet, they will not feed it in the boxing community if something is not happening because it will have an impact on the gate and PPV receipt, once a fight is on the go only an injury can stop it, its like a breach of contract if Spence is negotiating outside of this fight.
Of course, we all want a Crawford - Spence fight but the community has been taken for a ride for a long time that news like this has not been getting a warm reception, even Thurman's camp is quiet when this news comes out, there should be an update this week.

Not all news or rumors that are circulating on the internet are going to happen, let's face that. These article producers or the likes of Mike Coppinger are just a news bringer and that doesn't mean that it will really happen even if they are already reputable on the news that they are giving in the past.

The thing is, Spence isn't afraid of breaching any contract for the mandatory fight against Thurman because what would be the effect on his side? Nothing, because his belts are situated at welter and not in super-welter, so there will be no stripping of belts if Spence won't show up or do something regarding the mandatory fight that has been ordered.

That's how Spence see things even he won't bring this fight to Thurman there's nothing to worry about his belts and seems that the organization favor it from his side, instead of doing the mandatory fight in welter division they push it on the super-welter meaning to say that there's no belt that Thurman can have even Spence will not give him the fight or even Spence take the fight for the sake of money.

We can't tell which news or update that may bring enlightenment with what will be the plan. All we can do now is to wait.

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Honestly, I really don't expect that this fight will push through nor about the fight that just surfaced lately, the Crawford-Spence unification fight. It's truly hard to consider these two bouts because of the image that Spence and Al Haymon portrayed in the industry right now, I can't blame anyone if ever they aren't convinced that a unification fight will suddenly happen out of nowhere.
And in this bout, if ever this will not happen, let's expect that Keith Thurman will have his own interview or statement saying whatever happened why the fight didn't materialized.

It's been circulating on the internet, they will not feed it in the boxing community if something is not happening because it will have an impact on the gate and PPV receipt, once a fight is on the go only an injury can stop it, its like a breach of contract if Spence is negotiating outside of this fight.
Of course, we all want a Crawford - Spence fight but the community has been taken for a ride for a long time that news like this has not been getting a warm reception, even Thurman's camp is quiet when this news comes out, there should be an update this week.

Not all news or rumors that are circulating on the internet are going to happen, let's face that. These article producers or the likes of Mike Coppinger are just a news bringer and that doesn't mean that it will really happen even if they are already reputable on the news that they are giving in the past.

The thing is, Spence isn't afraid of breaching any contract for the mandatory fight against Thurman because what would be the effect on his side? Nothing, because his belts are situated at welter and not in super-welter, so there will be no stripping of belts if Spence won't show up or do something regarding the mandatory fight that has been ordered.

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2. By chance Spence lost this fight and maybe go for a rematch

Hopefully if this scenario happens, Spence will be forced to risk his belt(s)

Do you mean Spence will stake his belts for the rematch with Thurman if he loses here? What will be forced is, Spence will risks his belt at 147 and might possibly face Crawford although as I said previously, there might not a chance now to see Spence fighting at 147 due to some problems.

I mean that's not possible since if the rematch will happened with Thurman, it will still be in 154 and his titles are all in 147.

I don't know though the rules of what will happen if let's say, Spence will ask for a rematch with Thurman and if he's still eligible to do that without vacating all his titles at 147. I think that's a rare case to happen or I just missed some same scenario in boxing history.

What I think is that we might see a different scenario once Thurman is able to defeat Spence at 154, there's a strong chance that the latter will ask for a rematch but since a rematch clause wasn't written on their contract (I suppose), Thurman has the choice to decline the offer if there's no belts at risks. And if a rematch won't materialize, Spence has two choices, first is he will vacate his belts at 147 and second is that he will defend his belt at 147 with a risk of facing the boxers he ducked. And this time, I think that their influence won't be used even if they wanted to because the WBC is already under criticism because of this fight.

Alright, let's say Thurman won against Spence at 154, how Thurman can even demand a rematch with a risky title if, in the first place, Spence doesn't have any hold titles at 154? Not unless they will make the boxing circus again and Thurman instead will demand a rematch at 147.

Anyways, as stated it seems that this fight will now again just be part of a rumor as no official negotiation happened.

I wonder what's the timeline now for Spence if this match against Thurman won't be materialized. As far as I know, the negotiation for Spence vs. Crawford bout will be in process again after the fight with Thurman.

And even if the first negotiations of the Spence vs Crawford fell off, there are a lot of rumors right now that they are still talking though. So I'm thinking that this might be one reasons why they can't really declare this fight officially as maybe they are waiting for the negotiations and see how it goes. Just take note that this is a rumor though so don't let get ourselves excited yet.

Maybe both camp see that big fight like Garcia and Davis can be made if both camp will give an inch in the agreement. Oscar is in the middle of it, and we've seen him and Crawford in public a couple of months ago. So maybe if Oscar can make this fight and talk to every camp, it's possible too that Crawford can learn from Oscar or even get him as a middle man even for this one fight alone and then he can go solo if he wants. So let's see, if this fight happens to be sealed already then good, wait for the result and then hopet hat Spence vs Crawford can be made at least for this year.

In this order of ideas, things could turn out for the better if Spence loses, this would be the ideal scenario for Crawford, who has fought so hard for this fight, to give him Fin, in addition, Thurman would have a great career so that he could manifest himself as one of the big surprises this year, this would be the ideal for him, it would also fuel all some scenarios to be able to have some epic boxing fights, this is one of the things that can happen if and only if Spence loses, and even if the scenario it is quite strong and difficult if possible.

Errol Spence vs. Terence Crawford contract discussions renewed

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By Chris Williams: Talks between IBF/WBA/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence and WBO champ Terence Crawford have restarted for an undisputed fight at 147. The Dallas News is reporting that the unbeaten Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) and Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs) are once again negotiating for a “hopeful” fight this year. However, Spence, 33, could face inactive former WBA/WBC champion Keith ‘One Time’ Thurman next summer on June 17th if the Crawford fight doesn’t pan out. “Contract talks have restarted for an undisputed welterweight world title fight between Errol Spence and Terence Crawford,” per Dallas News.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/03/errol-spence-vs-terence-crawford-contract-discussions-renewed/

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 07, 2023, 06:58:51 PM

We can now officially conclude that no Spence-Thurman will happened.

We can also assume now that Spence will not moved up to 154 as per prior plan.

It's been circulating on all over sport news that Spence-Crawford will now officially happened although we have to wait until April 22 for the official announcement and everything,

Yeah, and this could be just one ploy on the side of Spence, to have this name floating and guessing as what will be his next move because we all want to see him and Crawford and not Thurman.

But it seems majority of us bought this fight already and think it will go and we even have a lot of discussions obviously for this fight. But it's just week for the so called schedule fight and nothing come up.

On the other hand, there's a lot of news that something big is going to be announce on the Davis vs Garcia fight.

And we all speculating that it will be Crawford vs Spence finally.

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We can now officially conclude that no Spence-Thurman will happened.

We can also assume now that Spence will not moved up to 154 as per prior plan.

It's been circulating on all over sport news that Spence-Crawford will now officially happened although we have to wait until April 22 for the official announcement and everything,

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Quote from: mirakal on April 07, 2023, 03:47:22 PM

Honestly, I really don't expect that this fight will push through nor about the fight that just surfaced lately, the Crawford-Spence unification fight. It's truly hard to consider these two bouts because of the image that Spence and Al Haymon portrayed in the industry right now, I can't blame anyone if ever they aren't convinced that a unification fight will suddenly happen out of nowhere.
And in this bout, if ever this will not happen, let's expect that Keith Thurman will have his own interview or statement saying whatever happened why the fight didn't materialized.

It's been circulating on the internet, they will not feed it in the boxing community if something is not happening because it will have an impact on the gate and PPV receipt, once a fight is on the go only an injury can stop it, its like a breach of contract if Spence is negotiating outside of this fight.
Of course, we all want a Crawford - Spence fight but the community has been taken for a ride for a long time that news like this has not been getting a warm reception, even Thurman's camp is quiet when this news comes out, there should be an update this week.

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Quote from: aioc on April 07, 2023, 08:48:52 AM

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Yeah preparations and more marketing to promote the fight though both are already known fighters but due to some delays maybe fans will need to be aware that the fight will be proceed. I will wait till there's a final date and when both of them completed the signing of contract and have the press conference to make sure that the fight will take place.

Still waiting for any confirmation if which fighter Spence will take and sign a contract.

I hope we'll get an official update from all camps, Thurman, Spence, and Crawford camps, why would something like that comes out, so many sports pages are feeding it on social media and even the search engine are showing that the fight is going to happen on some articles and some articles are not sure if it's going to happen, there's so much circus between the two and the boxing community are at loss on who will they believe.
I prefer to believe that Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman is the one that will push unless one or both camps confirm it but I guess we'll have to wait for the Tank - Garcia fight, because there's news that this is where they are going to announce it.

Honestly, I really don't expect that this fight will push through nor about the fight that just surfaced lately, the Crawford-Spence unification fight. It's truly hard to consider these two bouts because of the image that Spence and Al Haymon portrayed in the industry right now, I can't blame anyone if ever they aren't convinced that a unification fight will suddenly happen out of nowhere.
And in this bout, if ever this will not happen, let's expect that Keith Thurman will have his own interview or statement saying whatever happened why the fight didn't materialized.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2023, 08:36:28 AM

Yeah preparations and more marketing to promote the fight though both are already known fighters but due to some delays maybe fans will need to be aware that the fight will be proceed. I will wait till there's a final date and when both of them completed the signing of contract and have the press conference to make sure that the fight will take place.

Still waiting for any confirmation if which fighter Spence will take and sign a contract.

I hope we'll get an official update from all camps, Thurman, Spence, and Crawford camps, why would something like that comes out, so many sports pages are feeding it on social media and even the search engine are showing that the fight is going to happen on some articles and some articles are not sure if it's going to happen, there's so much circus between the two and the boxing community are at loss on who will they believe.
I prefer to believe that Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman is the one that will push unless one or both camps confirm it but I guess we'll have to wait for the Tank - Garcia fight, because there's news that this is where they are going to announce it.

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I read that Errol Spence Jr. is about to fight Terrence Crawford on June 17, 2023, it is still not officially announced but leaks and rumors are everywhere. Does this fight between Spence Jr. and Thurman si bound not to happen? I search the internet but still no official announcement or final agreement on this fight between Keith and Spence. The latest news I got about this fight is this:

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Undefeated unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr. and former unified champ, Keith Thurman, are scheduled to clash in a yet-to-be-announced PBC on PPV event in April.

ESPN's Mike Coppinger was the first to report the news of the matchup being in the works, and that the fight will be a junior middleweight bout. Spence Jr. who currently holds the WBA, WBC, and IBF welterweight titles was granted a "special permit" from WBA President, Gabriel Mendoza, to fight outside of the weight class without having to relinquish his titles. He will then according to Mendoza have 60 days from his fight with Thurman to negotiate a deal with undefeated WBO welterweight champion, Terence Crawford, for a highly anticipated undisputed welterweight showdown.

Is there any other source where we can affirm that this fight between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. will happen?

it is already April, and seems that the match between spence jr and thurman didn't push thru. high likely that his fight with crawford will happen this coming June. because if there will be thurman fight, they should be heavily promoting it, but nothing of that sort from the news. we don't know what's stopping them but maybe spence jr is also very cautious to whom he will fight with.

They haven't made a formal announcement yet, so I don't think the fight will happen this June. After the announcement, they will need to start training and promoting the fight, which is a very short time to accomplish those tasks. Most likely, the fight will happen in the third quarter of this year, assuming it will push through.

Yeah preparations and more marketing to promote the fight though both are already known fighters but due to some delays maybe fans will need to be aware that the fight will be proceed. I will wait till there's a final date and when both of them completed the signing of contract and have the press conference to make sure that the fight will take place.

Still waiting for any confirmation if which fighter Spence will take and sign a contract.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 06, 2023, 05:58:36 PM

I read that Errol Spence Jr. is about to fight Terrence Crawford on June 17, 2023, it is still not officially announced but leaks and rumors are everywhere. Does this fight between Spence Jr. and Thurman si bound not to happen? I search the internet but still no official announcement or final agreement on this fight between Keith and Spence. The latest news I got about this fight is this:

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Undefeated unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr. and former unified champ, Keith Thurman, are scheduled to clash in a yet-to-be-announced PBC on PPV event in April.

ESPN's Mike Coppinger was the first to report the news of the matchup being in the works, and that the fight will be a junior middleweight bout. Spence Jr. who currently holds the WBA, WBC, and IBF welterweight titles was granted a "special permit" from WBA President, Gabriel Mendoza, to fight outside of the weight class without having to relinquish his titles. He will then according to Mendoza have 60 days from his fight with Thurman to negotiate a deal with undefeated WBO welterweight champion, Terence Crawford, for a highly anticipated undisputed welterweight showdown.

Is there any other source where we can affirm that this fight between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. will happen?

So far? none, although Mike Coppinger was a good source, but after the news comes out about this fight, no follow up whatsoever and both of this fighters are used to be very active in their social media accounts, but for their fight, they seems quiet.

And it's already April so obviously I don't think that this fight is going to happen. Perhaps we might hear the biggest news that we all doubt that is going to happen, the formal and official announcement that Spence and Crawford fighting this June. So most likely Thurman has given way for this super fight, and maybe one sticking point is that Thurman will have the first crack of the winner.

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I read that Errol Spence Jr. is about to fight Terrence Crawford on June 17, 2023, it is still not officially announced but leaks and rumors are everywhere. Does this fight between Spence Jr. and Thurman si bound not to happen? I search the internet but still no official announcement or final agreement on this fight between Keith and Spence. The latest news I got about this fight is this:

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Undefeated unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr. and former unified champ, Keith Thurman, are scheduled to clash in a yet-to-be-announced PBC on PPV event in April.

ESPN's Mike Coppinger was the first to report the news of the matchup being in the works, and that the fight will be a junior middleweight bout. Spence Jr. who currently holds the WBA, WBC, and IBF welterweight titles was granted a "special permit" from WBA President, Gabriel Mendoza, to fight outside of the weight class without having to relinquish his titles. He will then according to Mendoza have 60 days from his fight with Thurman to negotiate a deal with undefeated WBO welterweight champion, Terence Crawford, for a highly anticipated undisputed welterweight showdown.

Is there any other source where we can affirm that this fight between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. will happen?

it is already April, and seems that the match between spence jr and thurman didn't push thru. high likely that his fight with crawford will happen this coming June. because if there will be thurman fight, they should be heavily promoting it, but nothing of that sort from the news. we don't know what's stopping them but maybe spence jr is also very cautious to whom he will fight with.

They haven't made a formal announcement yet, so I don't think the fight will happen this June. After the announcement, they will need to start training and promoting the fight, which is a very short time to accomplish those tasks. Most likely, the fight will happen in the third quarter of this year, assuming it will push through.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 06, 2023, 05:58:36 PM

I read that Errol Spence Jr. is about to fight Terrence Crawford on June 17, 2023, it is still not officially announced but leaks and rumors are everywhere. Does this fight between Spence Jr. and Thurman si bound not to happen? I search the internet but still no official announcement or final agreement on this fight between Keith and Spence. The latest news I got about this fight is this:

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Undefeated unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr. and former unified champ, Keith Thurman, are scheduled to clash in a yet-to-be-announced PBC on PPV event in April.

ESPN's Mike Coppinger was the first to report the news of the matchup being in the works, and that the fight will be a junior middleweight bout. Spence Jr. who currently holds the WBA, WBC, and IBF welterweight titles was granted a "special permit" from WBA President, Gabriel Mendoza, to fight outside of the weight class without having to relinquish his titles. He will then according to Mendoza have 60 days from his fight with Thurman to negotiate a deal with undefeated WBO welterweight champion, Terence Crawford, for a highly anticipated undisputed welterweight showdown.

Is there any other source where we can affirm that this fight between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. will happen?

it is already April, and seems that the match between spence jr and thurman didn't push thru. high likely that his fight with crawford will happen this coming June. because if there will be thurman fight, they should be heavily promoting it, but nothing of that sort from the news. we don't know what's stopping them but maybe spence jr is also very cautious to whom he will fight with.

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I read that Errol Spence Jr. is about to fight Terrence Crawford on June 17, 2023, it is still not officially announced but leaks and rumors are everywhere. Does this fight between Spence Jr. and Thurman si bound not to happen? I search the internet but still no official announcement or final agreement on this fight between Keith and Spence. The latest news I got about this fight is this:

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Undefeated unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr. and former unified champ, Keith Thurman, are scheduled to clash in a yet-to-be-announced PBC on PPV event in April.

ESPN's Mike Coppinger was the first to report the news of the matchup being in the works, and that the fight will be a junior middleweight bout. Spence Jr. who currently holds the WBA, WBC, and IBF welterweight titles was granted a "special permit" from WBA President, Gabriel Mendoza, to fight outside of the weight class without having to relinquish his titles. He will then according to Mendoza have 60 days from his fight with Thurman to negotiate a deal with undefeated WBO welterweight champion, Terence Crawford, for a highly anticipated undisputed welterweight showdown.

Is there any other source where we can affirm that this fight between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. will happen?

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Quote from: harizen on April 03, 2023, 06:33:50 PM

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Yes, instead of making these fights easier to avoid conflicts in politics, Crawford's got the opposite outcome because his decision to leave the stable of Bob Arum seems to become his biggest nightmare now because he's not getting any good deals after that. I don't know what's the plan of Crawford because the last rumor months back was that he might sign under Eddie Hearn but nothing happened until now.

As Crawford stated last November:

"I just blame the business of boxing. I don't blame myself for [even] one portion of the fight not being made. ... I felt like I agreed to everything that I needed to agree to. "I feel like I've done everything I'm supposed to do as an independent fighter to get that fight made. But there's only so much I can do."

It's clear and he understands as an independent fighter and a free agent that he will just agree to everything regardless if it's fair or not on his side just to make the big bout against Spence will be materialized. But still, the negotiations fail, and what else he can do now? So unfortunate that he ended up like that.

I actually appreciate and admire Crawford for doing that. He took that huge risk and dive right into it in-exchange for a small hope that the unification between him and Spence will somehow happen after he severe his ties with Bob Arum and Top Rank. He even said in the interview after the negotiations failed that he was willing to take as low as 30% slice just to make it happen because he actually believe that Bob Arum was the only hurdle left, that's why he took care of it.

Little did Crawford know that Al Haymon and Spence actually doesn't want to make that unification fight happen, I even believe Bob Arum knew it right from the start but Crawford's mind was fixed on that moment and decided to leave the promotional company.

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Winding down.

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Maybe negotiations are already working behind and if it's time, it will come and the schedule will be announced.

Talking about that, it's indeed reported that the unification will happen although there's no final announcement about it yet.

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Sources revealed to The Ring that the welterweight superfight between IBF, WBA and WBC titlist Errol Spence Jr. and WBO counterpart Terence Crawford to crown an undisputed champion will finally take place in Las Vegas on June 17. It is believed the official announcement will be made at the Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia fight on April 22.

https://www.ringtv.com/651426-sources-the-errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-superfight-appears-set-for-june-17-in-las-vegas/

But the interesting part about that is what Crawford have said after that article was released.

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Terence Crawford took to Twitter today to give his two cents on the report of him supposedly fighting Errol Spence Jr on June 17th by telling his 332k followers, “It is April Fools.”

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/terence-crawford-throws-cold-water-on-errol-spence-fight-news/

So, this only mean one thing and that the mandatory fight of Errol Spence Jr. vs Keith Thurman at 154 might not happen anymore. There's no official detail though that Spence is indeed fighting either one of the two but considering that this unification is again surfacing, it's safe to say that this bout will not happen anymore because there projected date is nearing already and still no news about it.

So it means that we are not sure yet if this fight is going to be made, I mean the superfight between Spence and Crawford as the rumors started to float this April and this could be another of those "April Fools" prank. And there is already a thread about it, but everyone is very skeptics including myself as why the announcement should be made in the Garcia vs Davis fight and not have a separate press conference.

But we haven't heard anything about the update on his fight with Thurman. And same with Errol, he seems to be very quiet right now and there are no media news, as if this is a news blackout if the fight between him and Spence is moving forward or not.

Yes, no news that any of these fights will actually happen on their projected dates. It's real confusing as well why they have to announce it on other bouts because Tank nor Garcia is not connected to this unification fight. We really don't know what's Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon is thinking or what's their deal because they are being silent after the Thurman-Spence fight has been ordered. I got a bad feeling about this one, it might be another trick to buy another time.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 06, 2023, 06:56:48 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 01:52:28 PM

Spence's camps might bring reasons to cancel the schedule and left Crawford hanging again for his desire for a mega fight.

Spence needs to step up and stop playing games. If his fight against Thurman is canceled, he needs to take on a bigger challenge. The only option for him is Crawford. This fight has been uncertain from the start, as it is a non-title fight and probably not mandatory, which is different from what was previously reported.

Yeah,I remembered that it supposedly a mandatory fight between Spence and Thurman but become a non-title fight which really favoring Spence and now the fight might be cancelled as if I recall it right there's also a negotiation between Spence and Crawford not sure if which fight will take place as Spence's camps are really playing their cards.

For sure, they will take an easy route with decent compensations. We just need to wait for any updates and see if Spence will fight
either Thurman or Crawford, or they will take another fighter.

This is great news for boxing if both champions will fight, but unfortunate for Thurman who was hoping for a high-profile bout. Thurman could have saved his career by defeating a champion, but now it appears that he may be left behind if Spence and Crawford finalize the contract.

I hope this time around the split will not be an issue.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 06, 2023, 05:57:29 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 01:52:28 PM

Spence's camps might bring reasons to cancel the schedule and left Crawford hanging again for his desire for a mega fight.

Spence needs to step up and stop playing games. If his fight against Thurman is canceled, he needs to take on a bigger challenge. The only option for him is Crawford. This fight has been uncertain from the start, as it is a non-title fight and probably not mandatory, which is different from what was previously reported.

Yeah,I remembered that it supposedly a mandatory fight between Spence and Thurman but become a non-title fight which really favoring Spence and now the fight might be cancelled as if I recall it right there's also a negotiation between Spence and Crawford not sure if which fight will take place as Spence's camps are really playing their cards.

For sure, they will take an easy route with decent compensations. We just need to wait for any updates and see if Spence will fight
either Thurman or Crawford, or they will take another fighter.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 01:52:28 PM

Spence's camps might bring reasons to cancel the schedule and left Crawford hanging again for his desire for a mega fight.

Spence needs to step up and stop playing games. If his fight against Thurman is canceled, he needs to take on a bigger challenge. The only option for him is Crawford. This fight has been uncertain from the start, as it is a non-title fight and probably not mandatory, which is different from what was previously reported.

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