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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

He just need to focus now with new strategy while maintaining his weight, more on sparring for him to be more ready on this upcoming fight. He manages to stand still and lose on the decision, but his movements and his combinations are being countered by Martinez. If he really aims to win back his belt, he needs to recreate his fighting style, additional aggressiveness with good conversions,

He needs to put extra efforts to corner Martinez and land a good solid punch, still have that skills but needs to have more body movements and that killing instinct to take down Martinez.
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.

Yes, Casimero should be the one fighting Inoue now hehehe.

Historically though, John Riel is known to have this weight issues, and he had to lost 10 lbs in days and was caught doing sauna by BBoC. Anyway, let's hope that Ancajas and his team learn fro this mistakes, they should do the right way of losing that weight safe for the boxers and not so drastic because it will have a bad effect on the boxers during their fight.
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.

Let us wait and see how effective their newly hired nutritionist will be.  I hope this nutritionist will solve the dietary requirements for Ancajas to be able to lose weight while still being 100% nourished, since exerting effort to lose weight alone isn't as effective as the one with nutritional aid.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

Casimero failed to defend his WBO belt twice against mandatory challenger Paul Butler.
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

The performance of Ancajas in his first fight with Martinez is greatly affected by his weight problem.  Instead of getting conditioned, he puts extra time, tiring himself to extract those excess weights.  I believe if his weight doesn't appear as a problem in this upcoming fight, we will be seeing a better Ancajas. 

It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

The performance of Ancajas in his first fight with Martinez is greatly affected by his weight problem.  Instead of getting conditioned, he puts extra time, tiring himself to extract those excess weights.  I believe if his weight doesn't appear as a problem in this upcoming fight, we will be seeing a better Ancajas. 

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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

I guess we can call it that way, it's a faith that he can redeem what he lost in their first encounter while also supporting Ancajas regardless of the result because he is a fellow countrymen.

I think that fatigue we saw on Ancajas is a result after he met the required weight because days before the fight, he's still struggling to meet the weight needed while he is training in double as there's a last minute replacement which is Martinez. That's why he looks like he didn't have enough energy. But we'll see it this time as things could be much more different than their first fight.
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.

They are focusing on his health and the balance with the training that he's taking. It's very important to make sure that his body will move accordingly. Fighters always have that desire, but without good balance with his condition, it won't work. Ancajas team are working on this part. They've acknowledged that lapse from their last fight and they needed to adjust now and make things possible for him. Tha chase for winning back his belt is the important thing right now.

In this fight for sure the revenge of a Filipino boxer we will see in this upcoming October 8, 2022, this will be a second and right time to claim the belt in their division and Inassure that ancajas will make it. The team of ancajas already settled and monitor the health of their fighter to be better when the time has come. Also for ancajas right timing with good footwork and a speedy hands then for sure a knockout or easy win for him.

Still another month for his preparation and his dietarian are there to monitor his condition, again it's more on balancing his health and the training that he will be undergoing now. The rematch is very important in his career, better to work more and be ready to claim back his former title.
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In this fight for sure the revenge of a Filipino boxer we will see in this upcoming October 8, 2022, this will be a second and right time to claim the belt in their division and Inassure that ancajas will make it. The team of ancajas already settled and monitor the health of their fighter to be better when the time has come. Also for ancajas right timing with good footwork and a speedy hands then for sure a knockout or easy win for him.
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.

If that's the only problem why he lost, then we can expect that he will give a good fight in this rematch, and who knows, he could get the belts and be a champion again. Plenty of time, we have over a month before we can see this fight, and hopefully the training of Ancajas will be more intense so he can have better stamina in the fight.
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

It literally means the same because winning in this rematch means that Ancajas can have that belt again and he will be a champion as well, that's just a simple mistake that cost Ancajas his throne but I bet that this time will be a much different scenario because this time, Ancajas will come prepared as he will train for Martinez.  The latter might be difficult to overcome but I believe Ancajas can still do it.

I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

If Ancajas wins this fight, he might probably plan to have a unification bout against Kazuto Ioka.  That would be the possible best course for him since Ioka would be a good match for him.  I do not think a trilogy sounds better than the Ancajas-Ioka fight.  That is if he wins and decided to stay in his current division.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Yeah, Ancajas needs to win first and if ever he did, I think fighting Ioka would give more money than the trilogy.

Every boxer will always seek to win in any way, whether it is for the unification fight against Ioka for having more fame, but in case he loses, things cannot go the wrong way or give up, if things can be complicated, but a boxer if he fights and loses it is because maybe he failed in his strategy or he did not prepare enough, for me there is no other reason, in this case Jerwin will do whatever it takes to win, he needs to win and have more fame, he also knows that if you win your doors will open to more fights and therefore if you need money you will undoubtedly get it, this is one of the things that can be taken into account when making a good bet.
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Or he should go up in weight, for me his lost has something to do with him can't make the weight in his division. He might be weight drain during his first fight. Well there could be trilogy, but I'm not going to be interested on it. Maybe Ioka next, but if he has problems making the weight then for sure he might lost again.

Hopefully, he can win this fight, just enough to get his belt back and his confidence. Because the way he was beaten, it looks like Martinez is the champion that time because of his performance.

That sound logical.  If a boxer is having difficulty to meet the weight requirement then he must move up. This reminds me of Manny Pacquiao.  Pacquiao had his first two losses because of having difficulty in meeting the required weight limit.  So it isn't surprising why Ancajas easily got exhausted during the first fight and got defeated.

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Pacquiao's weight increased from 106 to 113 pounds before losing in his twelfth bout against Rustico Torrecampo via third-round knockout. He was caught with a looping left hand flush on the chin which he couldn't get up from. Pacquiao failed to make the required weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves than Torrecampo, thereby putting him at a disadvantage.[35]
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However, Pacquiao lost the lineal title in his second defense against Medgoen Singsurat, also known as Medgoen 3K Battery, via third-round knockout. The bout was held in Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body, coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there. Prior to the fight, Pacquiao lost the WBC title at the scales as he surpassed the weight limit of 112 pounds.

Boxers need to be conditioned before fighting but if they think they will fail to meet the weight, they will do more exhausting activities that will greatly affect their fight.
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.


That's a good thing, it will bring more money and I'm sure that trilogy will attract more fans as that could possibly be the finale of this rivalry. I guess we should bet on Ancajas, he could win here to even this series if it's a best of 3 (considering trilogy) and he would also reclaim the belt.

He's on a mission to reclaim his belt so as fan better to place some spare money to add up with your entertainment while watching the fight, Ancajas will adjust and will do everything to bring back the belt and be the champion once again, if luck permits him he will earn a lot. He's still young and the chance of making more money is really possible, especially if promoters will see his potential.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Or he should go up in weight, for me his lost has something to do with him can't make the weight in his division. He might be weight drain during his first fight. Well there could be trilogy, but I'm not going to be interested on it. Maybe Ioka next, but if he has problems making the weight then for sure he might lost again.

Hopefully, he can win this fight, just enough to get his belt back and his confidence. Because the way he was beaten, it looks like Martinez is the champion that time because of his performance.
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

If Ancajas wins this fight, he might probably plan to have a unification bout against Kazuto Ioka.  That would be the possible best course for him since Ioka would be a good match for him.  I do not think a trilogy sounds better than the Ancajas-Ioka fight.  That is if he wins and decided to stay in his current division.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Yeah, Ancajas needs to win first and if ever he did, I think fighting Ioka would give more money than the trilogy.
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.


That's a good thing, it will bring more money and I'm sure that trilogy will attract more fans as that could possibly be the finale of this rivalry. I guess we should bet on Ancajas, he could win here to even this series if it's a best of 3 (considering trilogy) and he would also reclaim the belt.

He's on a mission to reclaim his belt so as fan better to place some spare money to add up with your entertainment while watching the fight, Ancajas will adjust and will do everything to bring back the belt and be the champion once again, if luck permits him he will earn a lot. He's still young and the chance of making more money is really possible, especially if promoters will see his potential.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.
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The Ancajas team will have to make significant adjustments for the upcoming fight with Martinez, since in the first fight Ankahas could not restrain Martinez's attacks and turn the tide of the fight in his favor and acted, as it seems to me, without initiative, I hope now he will have more motivation.

I think in the first fight, Ancajas failed to adjust since Martinez is just a replacement so the strategy that Ancajas works for months had been wasted.  So I think that is a fair enough reason to mess up on their first fight.  Even Pacquiao in his post-fight interview stating that he had trouble adjusting to Ugas during the fight shows how difficult it is for a boxer when there is a sudden change of opponent.  But I think this 2nd fight will be different since Ancajas has ample time to review and scout the opponent and create a sound strategy to beat Martinez.

Let's take that as a valid excuse, but if you look at the other side, Martinez could also use that as an excuse if he loses the fight. now, there are no more excuses because they are given a rematch if Ancajas think it's the adjustment that made him lose the fight, then for sure, he can make the right adjustment in this fight given he had plenty of time to prepare.

That's why excuses are not good in boxing, because it will only lose respect to the winner of the fight, why not give credit to the winner and for the loses, he has to work harder next time, make the right adjustment so the opportunity of the rematch will not be wasted.

I agree, having an excuse also means that you are not admitting that you've lost the fight and that will be troublesome as you're feeding your brain the wrong idea and that could further result into another loss in the future because you will eventually underestimate your opponent. Admitting your mistake is the right thing to do and make that mistake as a reason to thrive hard so that in the next fight you will have a different result.
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.


That's a good thing, it will bring more money and I'm sure that trilogy will attract more fans as that could possibly be the finale of this rivalry. I guess we should bet on Ancajas, he could win here to even this series if it's a best of 3 (considering trilogy) and he would also reclaim the belt.
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During his first fight with Martinez, it was evident that he was overpowered by his opponent. .....

I like to cut it, it's the most accurate reason why Ancajas lost, they were trading punches and it seemed like Martinez has better stamina and you can really tell by looking at Ancajas that he got tired in the fight, and yet he still tries to survive but with lack of power, he can't find a way to knock out Martinez.

Now, the rematch will be happening soon, I guess he needs to be more technical, going toe to toe against a stronger opponent seemed not working for him, he has to win via score.

Good adjustment and better strategy he needs to find ways to enhance his fighting style, with a tougher opponent he need to be wise, This is a rematch and Ancajas is the one who needs to reclaim his belt, though I'm sure his camp is now working on a new strategy to find that lucky break in winning the fight, either he will take his chance trying to go toe-to-toe or he will be more patient in working with converted scores. Whatever it will be, it's going to be the important part of his career.

If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

Hope for the best!
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