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Topic: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 - page 15. (Read 3578 times)

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We would love to see Ancajas as the underdog so that we will be more willing to bet on him, maybe 3:1 odd as underdog would not be bad at all for us to bet.
Underdog? yes, but 3:1, I think that's far from happening, maybe just a slight underdog because he is not a champion anymore, so we have to take whatever the odds are going to be available, but +110 is already okay as long as you believe that Ancajas will bounce back.

It's likely the scenario in the fight.

They have the odds prediction.

https://www.martialbot.com/boxing/fights/2022/10/fernando-martinez-vs-jerwin-ancajas.html
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Martínez vs. Ancajas Odds and Prediction
The odds of Fernando Martínez winning this fight is 59%, while it is 41% for Jerwin Ancajas. Based on these numbers, our AI makes the following prediction.

Fernando Martínez is more likely to win, but Jerwin Ancajas winning cannot be entirely ruled out.

If Martinez is a slight favorite, the probably odds are 1.80 Martinez and 2.05 for Ancajas.
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We would love to see Ancajas as the underdog so that we will be more willing to bet on him, maybe 3:1 odd as underdog would not be bad at all for us to bet.
Underdog? yes, but 3:1, I think that's far from happening, maybe just a slight underdog because he is not a champion anymore, so we have to take whatever the odds are going to be available, but +110 is already okay as long as you believe that Ancajas will bounce back.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.

That will be a big fight as Ioka has recently beat his arch nemesis, another Filipino in Nietes. I agree that Ancajas has a better shot since he is still very young as compare that time to Nietes who is already over the hill at 40 years old.

But as what we want to see, Ancajas should win first and dominate Martinez. He was a huge underdog in the first fight that we thought it is easy path for Ancajas. However, Ancajas demanded a rematch so here we are and hopefully this time, Ancajas will win and I wanted to see a knock out win for him.

Yup, this Martinez rematch is way for him to get back on track in his boxing career. As I've said before that he might not be focused in the first fight because Martinez was a replacement fighter but this time around, no reason or alibi for him if he loses, it's just that Martinez is superior to him. Now that he has experienced how Martinez moved or how hard Martinez can hit him so he has now an idea on how to defeat him in this rematch and for sure bookies will place Ancajas in the underdog position here.
Right, maybe Ancajas was thrown off by the style of style of Martinez because he hasn't prepared for him. But nevertheless, there should be no excuses this time, he has months of preparation against Martinez, he knows his weaknesses and strength based on their first fight. So he has somewhat of an idea, a blue print in mind on how to beat Martinez. We would love to see Ancajas as the underdog so that we will be more willing to bet on him, maybe 3:1 odd as underdog would not be bad at all for us to bet.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.

That will be a big fight as Ioka has recently beat his arch nemesis, another Filipino in Nietes. I agree that Ancajas has a better shot since he is still very young as compare that time to Nietes who is already over the hill at 40 years old.

But as what we want to see, Ancajas should win first and dominate Martinez. He was a huge underdog in the first fight that we thought it is easy path for Ancajas. However, Ancajas demanded a rematch so here we are and hopefully this time, Ancajas will win and I wanted to see a knock out win for him.

Yup, this Martinez rematch is way for him to get back on track in his boxing career. As I've said before that he might not be focused in the first fight because Martinez was a replacement fighter but this time around, no reason or alibi for him if he loses, it's just that Martinez is superior to him. Now that he has experienced how Martinez moved or how hard Martinez can hit him so he has now an idea on how to defeat him in this rematch and for sure bookies will place Ancajas in the underdog position here.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.

That will be a big fight as Ioka has recently beat his arch nemesis, another Filipino in Nietes. I agree that Ancajas has a better shot since he is still very young as compare that time to Nietes who is already over the hill at 40 years old.

But as what we want to see, Ancajas should win first and dominate Martinez. He was a huge underdog in the first fight that we thought it is easy path for Ancajas. However, Ancajas demanded a rematch so here we are and hopefully this time, Ancajas will win and I wanted to see a knock out win for him.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

I think a trilogy is already a sure deal if ever Ancajas will win on this rematch. There's no other way but a trilogy is really needed to finally settle the score between these two. But if Martinez will still win the rematch, obviously no trilogy and I wonder what will happen next in Ancajas's career as he will not be considered again for a title match right away if he loses this match.

The pressure is on Ancajas as he badly needed to win no matter what. I hope he won't be distracted.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.

That's what I wanted to see, Ancajas and Ioka, and it was really being groom before Martinez derail everything for Jerwin. That's why Jerwin immediately ask for a rematch because not only to redeem himself, so that he can go back in track for those fights that he is supposed to be getting and of course get the money that he deserves. If Jerwin could have won already, the Ancajas vs Ioka will be in works maybe at the end of the year in Japan. Anyhow, let's wait for Ancajas to take his revenge here.
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The last time was Manny Pacquiao, wo is supposed to face Spence but suddenly was replace by Ugas and obviously, Manny lost that fight already.

That was not the reason, whoever trained or coach Manny, he would not won in that fight because he said he has cramps on his legs that bothers him in the fight since he cannot use his quickness. Sometimes, boxers losses, it's just up to them how they'll recover from that loss.

It wasn't the whole reason why Pacquiao lost the fight against Ugas but I still believe that part of that reason why he lost is the sudden change of opponent which is Ugas because Spence can't fight because of the tear in somewhere in his eyes. That sudden change is a factor why Manny has lost because majority of the preparation he did was for Spence while Ugas was already training for Pacquiao if in case Spence can't make it, and it did happen.

Once a boxer trained hard for the expected opponent then for sure a chance of winning is very high but Like Pacquiao situation which a switch of opponents and instead of Spence, ugas take the opportunity to fight Manny Pacquiao which is  Manny have only 1 week preparation for the upcoming fight to the new opponent which is very hard to study the fighting skills because of the shortage of time. Anayways back to the main topic which is the ramatch between ancajas vs Martinez maybe this time we can see the revenge punches from ancajas and take the  victory.

No doubt, Ancajas will eventually redeem the belt and avenge his loss during their first encounter. This might be a bit personal for Ancajas because he loved that belt as he was trying to protect and hold that for years.

This time, there will be no excuse as long as there is no sudden change of boxer because of some issues. We can't really take out that factor because a change of foe will become a disadvantage as it's not the opponent you're preparing for, might be good if it will be announced much earlier but if it's just 1 week notice, I doubt that the result will be much different from the expectation.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.

Yeah, I also believe that, in this rematch, he can win and regain his belt. If that plan will materialize, I will also support him against Ioka. He can bring more challenge with Ioka since he is still young and still in his prime, just need tougher trainings and drills to enhance his chance of winning and beating Martinez, who snatched his belt away.

We can't foresee what the future will bring but if in case he wins this fight, the support of all his Pinoy fans will always be there whatever
direction he chose for his career.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

It literally means the same because winning in this rematch means that Ancajas can have that belt again and he will be a champion as well, that's just a simple mistake that cost Ancajas his throne but I bet that this time will be a much different scenario because this time, Ancajas will come prepared as he will train for Martinez.  The latter might be difficult to overcome but I believe Ancajas can still do it.

Definitely difficult because Ancajas lose via unanimous decision, he has to flip that result in his favor this time so there will be no controversy in case he will win the rematch. Well, I also like the possibility of KO, that if Ancajas is capable of knocking out this strong Fernando Martinez.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

It literally means the same because winning in this rematch means that Ancajas can have that belt again and he will be a champion as well, that's just a simple mistake that cost Ancajas his throne but I bet that this time will be a much different scenario because this time, Ancajas will come prepared as he will train for Martinez.  The latter might be difficult to overcome but I believe Ancajas can still do it.
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The last time was Manny Pacquiao, wo is supposed to face Spence but suddenly was replace by Ugas and obviously, Manny lost that fight already.

That was not the reason, whoever trained or coach Manny, he would not won in that fight because he said he has cramps on his legs that bothers him in the fight since he cannot use his quickness. Sometimes, boxers losses, it's just up to them how they'll recover from that loss.

It wasn't the whole reason why Pacquiao lost the fight against Ugas but I still believe that part of that reason why he lost is the sudden change of opponent which is Ugas because Spence can't fight because of the tear in somewhere in his eyes. That sudden change is a factor why Manny has lost because majority of the preparation he did was for Spence while Ugas was already training for Pacquiao if in case Spence can't make it, and it did happen.

Once a boxer trained hard for the expected opponent then for sure a chance of winning is very high but Like Pacquiao situation which a switch of opponents and instead of Spence, ugas take the opportunity to fight Manny Pacquiao which is  Manny have only 1 week preparation for the upcoming fight to the new opponent which is very hard to study the fighting skills because of the shortage of time. Anayways back to the main topic which is the ramatch between ancajas vs Martinez maybe this time we can see the revenge punches from ancajas and take the  victory.
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The last time was Manny Pacquiao, wo is supposed to face Spence but suddenly was replace by Ugas and obviously, Manny lost that fight already.

That was not the reason, whoever trained or coach Manny, he would not won in that fight because he said he has cramps on his legs that bothers him in the fight since he cannot use his quickness. Sometimes, boxers losses, it's just up to them how they'll recover from that loss.

It wasn't the whole reason why Pacquiao lost the fight against Ugas but I still believe that part of that reason why he lost is the sudden change of opponent which is Ugas because Spence can't fight because of the tear in somewhere in his eyes. That sudden change is a factor why Manny has lost because majority of the preparation he did was for Spence while Ugas was already training for Pacquiao if in case Spence can't make it, and it did happen.
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A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.

The other scenario here if Ancajas wins other than the trilogy is that Martinez would go back to his original division and continue depending his belt while Ancajas would go on fighting Ioka which was the original plan of MP Promotions and might also be a chance to avenge the loss of Nietes in the hands of Ioka which for me, Ancajas has the better chance of winning than this fight.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

He can be a champion again if he will win this rematch, with the right strategy, I think he can win and maybe push a trilogy. On the last fight, he lose via UD, it's time for him to come back and win either UD too or via KO, that's more impressive. Actually, it's not an easy fight for Ancajas but he has to remember that he needs to win for him to become a champion again.

A good strategy that will convert to a win. Ancajas can regain that title and be a champion again. Also, a good opportunity for the promoters if, in case Ancajas win, they can immediately call for another rematch/trilogy to decide who's really the one who deserves to keep the belt. It's a must for Ancajas or else he will be forgotten, as there are many competitive young fighters who can challenge Martinez if Ancajas failed his attempt to win back his belt.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

He can be a champion again if he will win this rematch, with the right strategy, I think he can win and maybe push a trilogy. On the last fight, he lose via UD, it's time for him to come back and win either UD too or via KO, that's more impressive. Actually, it's not an easy fight for Ancajas but he has to remember that he needs to win for him to become a champion again.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win
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Yes, he thought that he can outslug a brawler, so he fell on Martinez strengths and didn't used his own advantage. That's why I was quite surprised with his strategy in that fight and I said that Jerwin will lose it if he didn't change his style. And unfortunately that what happen. So I'm expecting a different version of Jerwin in this fight. The old Ancajas that loves to box and dance against his opponent and uses his physical to outpoint or even score a tko or ko victory.

Changing style is not the best thing to do. There's no need for Jerwin Ancajas to do it.

What he just need is to mentally and physically prepared for the fight. Do everything to become physically fight.

Any style and strategy will do and can be effective as long as the fighter is 100% conditioned as they can execute those properly with that status.

He actually did change his style of his fight against Martinez on the first fight and for me this is the biggest factor why he lost it, as @lionheart78 has said in his post, he adapt to Martinez style of brawling which is not his bread and butter.

So there will be no changing in his style, just his usual boxing will be do. Because all the brawlers he face didn't win against him because he all outbox them.
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Yes, he thought that he can outslug a brawler, so he fell on Martinez strengths and didn't used his own advantage. That's why I was quite surprised with his strategy in that fight and I said that Jerwin will lose it if he didn't change his style. And unfortunately that what happen. So I'm expecting a different version of Jerwin in this fight. The old Ancajas that loves to box and dance against his opponent and uses his physical to outpoint or even score a tko or ko victory.

Changing style is not the best thing to do. There's no need for Jerwin Ancajas to do it.

What he just need is to mentally and physically prepared for the fight. Do everything to become physically fight.

Any style and strategy will do and can be effective as long as the fighter is 100% conditioned as they can execute those properly with that status.
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