And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down.
Unless he wants to stay at 130 lbs, he already tasted this division and lost already. So the best option is to go back and defend his belt. Although one compelling reason for him to stay is when his body can't squeeze to 126 lbs limit. He is a tall boxer and maybe they are going to look at this problems as well and where they are going after his first lost.
Topic: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) - page 10. (Read 1388 times)
February 12, 2023, 03:15:06 AM
February 12, 2023, 02:12:55 AM
If Figueroa can withstand Magsayo's punches, and Magsayo doesn't change his style, it is very possible that Figueroa will win the fight via decision. Hopefully, Magsayo will bring more on this fight to beat Figueroa convincingly.
Figueroa is one of few boxers in featherweight which have a strong chin, so it's not easy to knock out him. Both of them are brawlers, there will be a lot exchange of punches between them and it might be a close fight. It might be possible if this fight would be end in draw? however draw is really rare to happen in boxing, most of the time it will end via split decision. Magsayo need to be aggressive on every rounds, not only on the early and near end. February 12, 2023, 01:35:09 AM
There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too.
As far as I know, if Rey Vargas will won his upcoming match against Foster, he will stay in that division I believed.
Magsayo, on the other hand, if won against Figueroa, will do several mandatory title defenses first before considering moving up.
I agree though, there's no rivalry between Mark Magsayo and Rey Vargas and neither one of them is calling each other that's why the possible rematch between them can happen if the situation will make it happen.
Yeah, and that's how this sports works, if there's something that will push the rematch after both fighters win their respective matchup
for sure is more about how much will be the amount that they'll going to win.
More on money matter if both camps will start negotiating about the potential rematch to whatever
division they'll going to meet. We all know that if the pressure is coming from a huge amount of money,
both camps will be ready to discuss and talk about the possible match.
February 11, 2023, 05:56:33 PM
There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too.
As far as I know, if Rey Vargas will won his upcoming match against Foster, he will stay in that division I believed.
Magsayo, on the other hand, if won against Figueroa, will do several mandatory title defenses first before considering moving up.
I agree though, there's no rivalry between Mark Magsayo and Rey Vargas and neither one of them is calling each other that's why the possible rematch between them can happen if the situation will make it happen.
February 11, 2023, 05:08:58 PM
Nevertheless, Mark should focus on the task at hand here, Figueroa is not a easy fight for him because of the volume and somewhat Magsayo was problems fighting a brawler because he can't execute his power punches. And there are issue too with his gas tank as he tires in the later round and that might be a big issue for him as Brandon Figueroa is relentless.
This is one of the reason why I am not a fan of Magsayo, he can be explosive in early rounds but if he failed to knock his opponent, he will gas out on the later round that might cost him the fight. Besides, I seldom see Magsayo use his wits in a match, he is more likely a charging bull relying on his power punches to knock his opponent down, just like what he did in his fight against Vargas that cost him the fight.
If Figueroa can withstand Magsayo's punches, and Magsayo doesn't change his style, it is very possible that Figueroa will win the fight via decision. Hopefully, Magsayo will bring more on this fight to beat Figueroa convincingly.
February 11, 2023, 05:01:56 PM
I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class.
Wait first on the result of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa match before we can say that statement involving Magsayo.
There are also several "what if's" for that rematch between Magsayo and Vargas and those are stated already in the above discussions.
If Magsayo and Vargas will win their respective match, they can probably meet in the future at the 130 if the former considers moving up and think he can able to adopt the environment in that division.
Rey Vargas has a scheduled fight tonight against Foster, so for those who are interested then they can watch this fight and see if he will have to stay at 126 lbs or not.
Foster promised Vargas that he will send him back to featherweight division when he win against Rey.
Nevertheless, Mark should focus on the task at hand here, Figueroa is not a easy fight for him because of the volume and somewhat Magsayo was problems fighting a brawler because he can't execute his power punches. And there are issue too with his gas tank as he tires in the later round and that might be a big issue for him as Brandon Figueroa is relentless.
February 11, 2023, 04:51:50 PM
I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class.
Wait first on the result of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa match before we can say that statement involving Magsayo.
There are also several "what if's" for that rematch between Magsayo and Vargas and those are stated already in the above discussions.
If Magsayo and Vargas will win their respective match, they can probably meet in the future at the 130 if the former considers moving up and think he can able to adopt the environment in that division.
February 11, 2023, 04:23:37 PM
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division.
If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division.
Or unless they both agree that they are willing to risk the belts just to have the rematch, maybe if money will talk and they
already holding both belts from that different divisions.
It still possible that these two fighters will have their rematch and fans will have that chance to see them both inside the ring.
It will be in the hands of the promoters to make things happen.
I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class. Why? There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too. They will have their own separate ways and fighting opponents in separate divisions.
February 11, 2023, 03:53:58 PM
Let's wait for the result of this fight and maybe Vargas will not think of climbing, instead, he will be giving Magsayo a chance for a rematch because the first fight wasn't really a unanimous decision win by him, so that will certainly excite the crowd and promoters will love that as it's easy to market the fight.
Actually, Rey Vargas really has a set of targets in the 126 but having difficulty securing even one of those. Instead, he considers fighting for the vacant title at 130. Regardless if he wins or loses there, he still holds his 126 title.
And no, Magsayo is surely out of any Vargas plans but if the former will win against Figueroa and the latter loses against Foster or decided to stay a 126, which I doubt if he wins, a mandatory fight is about to take place between the interim champion and regular champion.
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
Yes, as I mentioned above, if Vargas will lose his attempt at the 130 lbs title a few days from now, he's still the WBC Featherweight Champion.
Let's say he really loses, the next one in line for him is, will face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
February 10, 2023, 04:05:40 PM
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division.
If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division.
Or unless they both agree that they are willing to risk the belts just to have the rematch, maybe if money will talk and they
already holding both belts from that different divisions.
It still possible that these two fighters will have their rematch and fans will have that chance to see them both inside the ring.
It will be in the hands of the promoters to make things happen.
February 10, 2023, 03:27:13 PM
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division.
If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division.
I see, thanks for clarifying this bout to me mate. I haven't noticed that the Vargas-Foster bout will be contested at 130 lbs. fighting for the WBC belt, speaking of, time flies fast because this said fight will happen today. We will see what will happen as this the outcome of this fight is somehow connected to this thread. Hopefully things will go their own way, so that the Figueroa-Magsayo will be a title fight directly.
February 08, 2023, 05:02:32 PM
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division.
If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division.
February 08, 2023, 03:34:43 PM
True, he is lucky that it does not take long for him to wait for a big fight, now that its here, this is an opportunity to prove that although he is not undefeated anymore, but he can become a champion again. We only have few Filipino boxing champs, so I'm sure Magsayo is now inspired to carry the nation in this fight and will go home bringing the glory.
Chances like this are not seen every day and no matter what happened, if he really wanted to pursue his dream, then he should win this fight and do everything he can to beat Figueroa. Maybe this is one of the most exciting fights will gonna happen to his career because he needs to put everything in here and improve himself in order not to be the same fighter when he suffered his first loss. Now is the time to prove to them that he still has the power to become a legend in boxing.
Based from initial odds, Magsayo is the underdog of this match, so if you are rooting for him, would be good to bet.
We don't know how prepared both the fighters are to this belt, but if Magsayo can really win on this one,
he will uplift the spirit of his countrymen. They are looking for another boxer that can follow the path of Pacquiao.
However, we know such feat is quite difficult as it would take years and years before another boxer can prove such achievement.
February 08, 2023, 02:22:34 PM
Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match.
If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better.
Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa.
Or did I miss something?
February 07, 2023, 07:53:30 AM
True, he is lucky that it does not take long for him to wait for a big fight, now that its here, this is an opportunity to prove that although he is not undefeated anymore, but he can become a champion again. We only have few Filipino boxing champs, so I'm sure Magsayo is now inspired to carry the nation in this fight and will go home bringing the glory.
Chances like this are not seen every day and no matter what happened, if he really wanted to pursue his dream, then he should win this fight and do everything he can to beat Figueroa. Maybe this is one of the most exciting fights will gonna happen to his career because he needs to put everything in here and improve himself in order not to be the same fighter when he suffered his first loss. Now is the time to prove to them that he still has the power to become a legend in boxing.
February 07, 2023, 06:55:33 AM
We can analyze Magsayo's two losses to Vargas ...
Just a correct, Magsayo only lose once to Vargas, his only loss actually.
You can check on the record - https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/653034
Figueroa will be Magsayo's stepping stone to being back in the limelight, he has to take it slowly but surely, take care of Figueroa first and let's see if a Vargas vs Magsayo rematch will come into reality.
The chances of the said rematch to happen is quite decent as long as he will defeat Figueroa along the way and not just a common defeat, he needed a statement here because either way, Magsayo will be called to challenge Vargas's title because the winner of this fight will have the chance to fight the WBC belt holder which is Vargas. Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Let's wait for the result of this fight and maybe Vargas will not think of climbing, instead, he will be giving Magsayo a chance for a rematch because the first fight wasn't really a unanimous decision win by him, so that will certainly excite the crowd and promoters will love that as it's easy to market the fight.
February 07, 2023, 06:52:34 AM
I'm not sure if this will truly take part in each boxing fight because Boxers no matter if fighting against local or international ? they will look upon them as same type of person and that is someone they must knock down or else they will be the loser, the only thing that mostly effect the boxer is the weather in each country that they will fight on because it depends in their areas in which their training will mostly affected.
but in terms of willingness and capacity? it does not really matter in my own belief.
I don't think weather is a big factor to affect boxer performance, the fight is happen inside a building, not outdoor. I think crowd and judges are the big factor which determine the outcome when the fight end in decision. When a boxer isn't have a good mental and emotion, the crowd might pressure him and the judges often favor on the boxer from their country. but in terms of willingness and capacity? it does not really matter in my own belief.
If a boxer already is already experienced to fight away from his country, he can manage his mental and emotion very well.
February 07, 2023, 06:17:06 AM
Figueroa himself is coming from a successful redemption fight against Castro after he was defeated by Fulton. So he has already recovered his confidence inside the ring. Magsayo has yet to have that.
The pressure here is more on Magsayo, as you have said, it's redemption time for him, so he either win here to have a chance for the belt again, or lose and it will be square one for Mark and his rankings will be affected and might take him a year to get another crack at the champion.
Indeed, Magsayo is facing a lot of pressure now. A fighter's first defeat must be traumatic after having been winning one fight after another for a long time. But I guess it must be harder to keep that defeat out of his mind and make sure it will be a thing of the past already. The stake is high. 2 consecutive losses after being undefeated must be hard to recover from. So this is somehow an all or nothing fight for him. He can't afford the loss of confidence and self-esteem if he is once again defeated this time around.
He must win this fight, otherwise that opportunity will be gone and he'll be having a hard time finding that again. yes, he lose once, maybe he can make his own excuse and try to improve himself, but if he losses again, then that would only tell that he is not really bound to be a big star like Donaire.
True, he is lucky that it does not take long for him to wait for a big fight, now that its here, this is an opportunity to prove that although he is not undefeated anymore, but he can become a champion again. We only have few Filipino boxing champs, so I'm sure Magsayo is now inspired to carry the nation in this fight and will go home bringing the glory.
February 07, 2023, 04:51:03 AM
Figueroa himself is coming from a successful redemption fight against Castro after he was defeated by Fulton. So he has already recovered his confidence inside the ring. Magsayo has yet to have that.
The pressure here is more on Magsayo, as you have said, it's redemption time for him, so he either win here to have a chance for the belt again, or lose and it will be square one for Mark and his rankings will be affected and might take him a year to get another crack at the champion.
Indeed, Magsayo is facing a lot of pressure now. A fighter's first defeat must be traumatic after having been winning one fight after another for a long time. But I guess it must be harder to keep that defeat out of his mind and make sure it will be a thing of the past already. The stake is high. 2 consecutive losses after being undefeated must be hard to recover from. So this is somehow an all or nothing fight for him. He can't afford the loss of confidence and self-esteem if he is once again defeated this time around.
He must win this fight, otherwise that opportunity will be gone and he'll be having a hard time finding that again. yes, he lose once, maybe he can make his own excuse and try to improve himself, but if he losses again, then that would only tell that he is not really bound to be a big star like Donaire.
February 07, 2023, 12:38:27 AM
It is ok to be aggressive but Magsayo should also work on his defense and footwork. Rushing forward to an opponent will only make him sit duct to jabs and straight. See what happens during Vargas fight, since Vargas has longer reach, and Magsayo just walking forward to get in his range, Magsayo was bombarded with jabs and straight while trying to close the gap between them. So hopefully, Magsayo try to learn more about angles and footwork.
That is the main flaw of Magsayo he is very used to it because he has fought local fighters for too long, it's very different when you're fighting fighters from other territories, especially when you are fighting Mexican fighters who are known for their being sluggers, like Pacquiao he must use a lot of angles, counter punching and managing the distance, he can learn a lot from Fulton the only guy who beat Figueroa who beats him by fighting inside because Figueroa is the taller fighter.
but in terms of willingness and capacity? it does not really matter in my own belief.
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