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Figueroa's trainer might got another way how to utilize the skill that he have because they both know that they cannot follow everything that Vargas has done to Magsayo when they first clashed with each other. They will just pick a thing or two from that fight that they think that could help Figueroa's skills to enhance his chances towards Magsayo. Let's just expect about it already as Vargas is not the same with Figueroa, so it's given that they will have a different kind of approach.

Both camp probably watched how these boxers fight and see if what they can do to improve their skills for their own advantage. It's possible that Figueroa's trainer might use how Vargas beat and dominate Magsayo knowing the weakness of the latter is already exposed.

On the other side, Magsayo needs to improve his stamina and timing on when to give an accurate punch. He needs a strategy to take down Figueroa, otherwise he can't bounce back from the previous loss.

I think Magsayo will train harder so he won't lose in the same way again. Figueroa needs to develop more strategies to avoid being predictable since Magsayo is a powerful puncher and a one-hit knockout kind of boxer. Although I admit that he doesn't have the stamina of a real warrior, it can be improved of course.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 25, 2023, 01:20:46 PM

Figueroa's trainer might got another way how to utilize the skill that he have because they both know that they cannot follow everything that Vargas has done to Magsayo when they first clashed with each other. They will just pick a thing or two from that fight that they think that could help Figueroa's skills to enhance his chances towards Magsayo. Let's just expect about it already as Vargas is not the same with Figueroa, so it's given that they will have a different kind of approach.

Both camp probably watched how these boxers fight and see if what they can do to improve their skills for their own advantage. It's possible that Figueroa's trainer might use how Vargas beat and dominate Magsayo knowing the weakness of the latter is already exposed.

On the other side, Magsayo needs to improve his stamina and timing on when to give an accurate punch. He needs a strategy to take down Figueroa, otherwise he can't bounce back from the previous loss.

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In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy. It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

I don't think that Figueroa will just literally use his reach advantage but rather just go with the flow with his usual strategy.

In other words, using his reach advantage while being in toe-to-toe fight mode and not treating Magsayo as having a disadvantage. As others say, he's a volume puncher and that means aggressive. Not also considered lucky for Magsayo if the fight goes toe-to-toe as regardless, Figueroa also wants that.

The effectiveness of their respective strategies will now depend on how they will perfectly time it in the actual fight.

Yeah, maybe Brandon study that fight and how Vargas beat Magsayo. But they have contrasting style and he is not known as a jabber. So I believed Figueroa will still fight his own and what he is comfortable with, go with the flow of the fight like throwing a lot per round.

On the side of Magsayo, he should be preparing for a fighter that is going to put his foot on the gas pedal. He will not not stop chasing Magsayo unless Mark becomes the aggressor and perfectly time Brandon coming in with a perfect straight and score a knock down or a knock out.

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Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Some versatile boxers can do the same strategy when they find their opponent is weak. In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy. It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

I have to agree on what you say but surely Magsayo also has a game plan how to counter Figueroa.

Having a height and reach advantage for Figueroa, Mark Magsayo will treat it the same as how he fights Vargas in their previous meeting.

Since Vargas is the only boxer on Magsayo's portfolio to have such advantages, he will used that reference how to counter Figueroa.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 25, 2023, 05:55:24 PM

In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy. It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

I don't think that Figueroa will just literally use his reach advantage but rather just go with the flow with his usual strategy.

In other words, using his reach advantage while being in toe-to-toe fight mode and not treating Magsayo as having a disadvantage. As others say, he's a volume puncher and that means aggressive. Not also considered lucky for Magsayo if the fight goes toe-to-toe as regardless, Figueroa also wants that.

The effectiveness of their respective strategies will now depend on how they will perfectly time it in the actual fight.

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Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Some versatile boxers can do the same strategy when they find their opponent is weak. In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy. It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

Might be, Vargas strategy though is to use his length against Magsayo by using a lot of jabs, and Brandon is not known to jab, he is a very definition of brawler, even in the first rounds of the fight against Fulton, he uses his aggressiveness and try to wear out Fulton. But Stephen was intelligent enough to grab him the moment he goes inside. So I'm seeing the same Figueroa in this fight, same strategy, he will try to wear you down with his volume punching. So it's the sheer volume of Figueroa. But to win against a volume puncher, Magsayo should be accurate enough, even if he has less output, if he is accurate then he has a good chance to win or maybe score a knock down in the later rounds.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 23, 2023, 04:52:02 PM

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Some versatile boxers can do the same strategy when they find their opponent is weak. In this case, Vargas had exposed Magsayo's weaknesses, so there is a possibility that the camp of Figueroa will implement the same strategy. It would be lucky for Magsayo if Figueroa will fight him toe-to-toe and do not take advantage of the reach advantage.

On the other hand, I believe Magsayo had studied Figueroa's fighting style and strategies, I hope his camp can find the weakness of the opponent and devise a plan to exploit it.

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You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

Quote from: Kasabus on February 20, 2023, 03:13:07 PM

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Figueroa's trainer might got another way how to utilize the skill that he have because they both know that they cannot follow everything that Vargas has done to Magsayo when they first clashed with each other. They will just pick a thing or two from that fight that they think that could help Figueroa's skills to enhance his chances towards Magsayo. Let's just expect about it already as Vargas is not the same with Figueroa, so it's given that they will have a different kind of approach.

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You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

Quote from: Kasabus on February 20, 2023, 03:13:07 PM

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

It we look at the record though, and basing on their ko % it should be Figueroa that is considered a heavy puncher,

Figueroa - KOs 72%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/718399

Magsayo - KOs 64%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/653034

Speed in boxing is relative though, you can be fast, but if you are not going to hit a target then that speed is nothing. Or Magsayo could be fast in his last fight, but when he faces another fast boxer, then again, his advantages becomes 0.

That seems like a very tiny difference which also does not account for more complex probabilistic data inputs such as the opponents who they were fighting against. It seems possible to me that Figueroa might not have been getting tougher opponents who do not easily go down unlike the guys that Magsayo fought in his past matches.

That is only one example of why the KO percentage could deviate. If we were to fix for all the correct variables, perhaps even hidden and unknown variables, then we might see both of them having a very similiar KO percentage number.

Sure Figueroa could be considered a heavy puncher. But so is Magsayo.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 24, 2023, 06:40:51 PM

Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

Same thoughts. The possible turning point of this match will depend on how good the execution of their respective strategy is.

Even bookies provide a distant gap on their odds, with Figueroa as a heavy favorite, and Magsayo, on the other hand, is the underdog, I don't really think that way even for let's say not being biased for the PH boxer.

Regardless of everything, the result will just be known on the actual date of this fight. Let's see how this fight will go.

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You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

Quote from: Kasabus on February 20, 2023, 03:13:07 PM

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

It we look at the record though, and basing on their ko % it should be Figueroa that is considered a heavy puncher,

Figueroa - KOs 72%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/718399

Magsayo - KOs 64%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/653034

Speed in boxing is relative though, you can be fast, but if you are not going to hit a target then that speed is nothing. Or Magsayo could be fast in his last fight, but when he faces another fast boxer, then again, his advantages becomes 0.

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You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

Quote from: Kasabus on February 20, 2023, 03:13:07 PM

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

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You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

Quote from: Kasabus on February 20, 2023, 03:13:07 PM

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 20, 2023, 05:00:30 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 20, 2023, 01:32:10 PM

You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo. Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

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I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support

That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 19, 2023, 12:50:13 PM

I am not so sure about Figueroa after watching him struggle and lose the fight against Stephen Fulton Jr. in November of 2021 and he only had a single fight in 2022. What happened? Depression? All in all it seems like he is starting to lose steam and its all going a bit downhill for him, currently. That really does not spark confidence for me to bet on him.

On the other side, Magsayo has been winning and fighting year to year. Absolutely no stopping him! Aside from his one recent loss, his track record is way better. Obviously he is going to win this fight with certainty.

Both fighter promising to us supporters and viewers they will send us a good fight so thinking that now they are train harder and harder in order to fulfill their promises and we all know how figueroa fight inside the ring and we all know he has a good strategy for this fight against magsayo and fur sure magsayo will make this fight much better and I know he can because magsayo has a good attitude like inuoe silent but have a demon inside.

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As much as I wanted Mark Magsayo to win, looking at their statistics and how Vargas exposed the weakness of Magsayo, I think this will be a hard fight for Magsayo. Figueroa is also a knock out puncher with higher percentage KO than Magsayo. Figueroa has height and reach advantage. This is where I can see the problem, since Vargas exposed the weakness of Magsayo, there is a chance that Figueroa will do the same tactic. I hope Magsayo has new strategy and technique to bring at the table and be able to work around those disadvantages and win the fight.

I'm sure that Team Magsayo will have a good plan going into this fight as they don't want the outcome in the Vargas fight to be duplicated. Every fighter has its own style that i think Figueroa is different than that of Vargas style that uses his height advantage over his opponents and one good thing about that Vargas fight, Magsayo wasn't dominated and Vargas even went down to the canvass in round nine.

As i said this fight is 50-50 for me and i'm rooting for Magsayo so i hope that Team Magsayo will exploit every weakness that Figueroa had.

BTW, odds for Magsayo ML have dropped to 2.95, i think this will go south further when the fight comes nearer.

It means that money is already pouring in for Magsayo are early as when the odds are listed. Which also means that gamblers are taking advantage of that early odds for ML because it is very attractive.

And as I have advise, better be betting early, hehehe. And even if there is a slip drop on the odds, still high in my opinion. We might be in for a surprise hear if Magsayo will win in this fight as he is 3:1 underdog.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on February 20, 2023, 01:11:56 PM

As much as I wanted Mark Magsayo to win, looking at their statistics and how Vargas exposed the weakness of Magsayo, I think this will be a hard fight for Magsayo. Figueroa is also a knock out puncher with higher percentage KO than Magsayo. Figueroa has height and reach advantage. This is where I can see the problem, since Vargas exposed the weakness of Magsayo, there is a chance that Figueroa will do the same tactic. I hope Magsayo has new strategy and technique to bring at the table and be able to work around those disadvantages and win the fight.

I'm sure that Team Magsayo will have a good plan going into this fight as they don't want the outcome in the Vargas fight to be duplicated. Every fighter has its own style that i think Figueroa is different than that of Vargas style that uses his height advantage over his opponents and one good thing about that Vargas fight, Magsayo wasn't dominated and Vargas even went down to the canvass in round nine.

As i said this fight is 50-50 for me and i'm rooting for Magsayo so i hope that Team Magsayo will exploit every weakness that Figueroa had.

BTW, odds for Magsayo ML have dropped to 2.95, i think this will go south further when the fight comes nearer.

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Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:58:39 PM

Nice odds for Mark Magsayo. I will surely bet on the Moneyline for him.

I also don't see why the gap of odds turned out like that but yes, it seems bookies treat Magsayo as really the heavy underdog. It's not the first time though that a PH boxer is considered a heavy underdog and it's a good chance for Magsayo to erase that analysis about him.

Figueora has a height and reach advantage which can be compare to the advantage of Rey Vargas and that's what Magsayo is not used to fighting with. But with Magsayo's experience dealing with that, I'm sure he already has a plan for how to counter Figueroa, and the right timing is the only concern.

Sparing some bet for this as well, Magsayo already experienced that kind of fighter when he lose to Vargas, adjustments on how to work
on with the same a like opponent might be on process now with his camp.

Just need a lot of hard preparation to win and have that chance to have another shot with the title match,
looking to see him beating Figueroa even he was tag as an underdog here.

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Nice odds for Mark Magsayo. I will surely bet on the Moneyline for him.

I also don't see why the gap of odds turned out like that but yes, it seems bookies treat Magsayo as really the heavy underdog. It's not the first time though that a PH boxer is considered a heavy underdog and it's a good chance for Magsayo to erase that analysis about him.

Figueora has a height and reach advantage which can be compare to the advantage of Rey Vargas and that's what Magsayo is not used to fighting with. But with Magsayo's experience dealing with that, I'm sure he already has a plan for how to counter Figueroa, and the right timing is the only concern.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2023, 07:53:41 AM

Odds are already out and as expected, Mark Magsayo was listed as the huge underdog here which for me is a good thing because he is a very live underdog and could upset Figueroa come fight night. For sure i'll be betting for Magsayo here as i love betting on the underdogs but i'll still wait for some options if there are juicy markets offered in the next few days but if there are no better options, this ML is a good one for me.

It's too early to bet, but I like the odds. Magsayo is a heavy underdog, but we should not forget that he was once a champion, so he already knows the feeling of being at the top and at the bottom when he experienced his first loss. I'm excited to see how Magsayo will bounce back from a painful loss, so I have no doubt that he'll win this fight. With that said, I'll take the money line odds.

Why too early to bet? For me, grab the Magsayo odds now while it's hot.

Odds might have the possibility to change in favor of Magsayo so it's a good shot for me to take that @3.1 odds for him. Actually, good to see that odds turned out like that especially for PH fans as while we are supporting our own boxer, we are also having good odds.

I hope Magsayo can pull a win on this one. Don't like how bookies see Magsayo as a heavy underdog here.

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