[ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 53.

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Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury fight will take place July 18 at the MGM Grand Garden, Las Vegas.
Imagine Fury with more time and more training sessions.
I predict KO again, and this time much earlier.

Where did you see that it is being held at the MGM Grand? I really think that Deontay Wilder should fight on Fury's home turf.... After all, Fury has gone to the start twice now for their fights.

Wilder hasn't got the guts to fight in Fury's backyard!

Then again, maybe Fury has contractual obligations, hence why he's staying in the US?

https://www.newsweek.com/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-third-fight-details-1489954
Arum added that the fight will take place on July 18 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena

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Quote from: bering on March 04, 2020, 07:44:44 AM

For the boxers to forget first losses it will always be hard and Wilder have to restore his mentally to prove his statement and some of boxers such as Mike Tyson never can able reach to top perform again after first lost so i'm curious for this third match and see whether Wilder can raise up or he will beated again

We can't tell what would happen but there's too much power for Wilder, he just need to be more precise with his move so he can hit Fury.
It looks like Fury was the faster guy in the last two fights, that's the thing he needs to improve, he needs to throw more combination and he needs to improve his speed a bit. Many would still bet on him although most of us here favor Fury to win in the upcoming fight.

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I should have added a poll when I started the thread Grin

I agree Wilder should not be underestimated because of his KO record but Fury proved he can out-think and out-box Wilder a well as hurt him badly. I still say Fury will win a third fight.

Quote from: Viscore on February 29, 2020, 07:47:31 PM

Nice thread so the Fury vs Wilder II thread should be lock soon.

I am expecting a good discussion here, these two are now some of the popular boxers and it's nice that Wilder is still looking for a trilogy.
As a fans, I like to see KO for whoever will win, but I would not underestimate Wilder here although he loss twice, of course only 1 for the record.

@JollyGood I think it's nice if you also add some poll, we like to vote between the two.

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For the boxers to forget first losses it will always be hard and Wilder have to restore his mentally to prove his statement and some of boxers such as Mike Tyson never can able reach to top perform again after first lost so i'm curious for this third match and see whether Wilder can raise up or he will beated again

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Did you back Wilder though in the second fight? I'm not surprised though, because we thought that Wilder will knock out Fury, he almost did in the first, however, the rematch was very very different.

I will also go with Fury in the trilogy, he has everything, the momentum, the power, the technical skills to toy around Wilder. And we can all see the Wilder is somewhat out of his mind in chasing a trilogy. Only few boxers can go back from that sort of beating and won again.

Yes, i have put some bet on Wilder via knock-out and a win by decision, i thought that he would overwhelmed Fury. Fury vs Wilder 2 was just a repeat of the Lewis vs Tyson fight. I think Fury have watched the tape of that fight as he just did to Wilder what Lewis did to Mike Tyson. History just repeat itself

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There is a 3rd fight, we can again try to bet on Wilder, and this time we will get a better odds since he is the underdog of this fight.
An early round stoppage would be a great bet, I am not sure yet which round.

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We won't be waiting for too long before we will see these two fighters face each other again. This early, it has already been decided that the trilogy will happen as Wilder has exercised his contract right for a rematch. As a matter of fact, there is already a tentative place and date. Arum is saying it will happen in the US 100%, most probably in the MGM Grand once again, on the 18th of July. The purse will be 60/40 with the defending champion taking the bigger slice.

I don't think this third battle will be much different from the second one. If Wilder will get lucky just like when they met the first time in 2018, he will hit fury with a strong right enough to put him down. But, as what happened in the first match, it won't be enough to put the king to sleep. And Fury will still turn out the winner. That would be Wilder's best scenario for me.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 04, 2020, 06:25:34 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on March 03, 2020, 03:57:03 AM

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Did you back Wilder though in the second fight? I'm not surprised though, because we thought that Wilder will knock out Fury, he almost did in the first, however, the rematch was very very different.

I will also go with Fury in the trilogy, he has everything, the momentum, the power, the technical skills to toy around Wilder. And we can all see the Wilder is somewhat out of his mind in chasing a trilogy. Only few boxers can go back from that sort of beating and won again.

Yes, i have put some bet on Wilder via knock-out and a win by decision, i thought that he would overwhelmed Fury. Fury vs Wilder 2 was just a repeat of the Lewis vs Tyson fight. I think Fury have watched the tape of that fight as he just did to Wilder what Lewis did to Mike Tyson. History just repeat itself

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 02, 2020, 04:29:05 PM

That is the fundamental problem with the mindset Wilder is trying to create for himself. He still sees himself and Fury as he did in the first fight but that is him being delusional.

I just cannot see Wilder adjusting to the Fury onslaught. the only thing that might change in the third fight is Wilder coming out more active in the first two rounds unleashing that big right hand at every opportunity in the hope of knocking out Fury but when he realises he has no hope, it will a re-run of the second fight. Fury will beat Wilder.

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Same here. I think no matter how hard Wilder tries to regain his "honor" against Fury, he will be played and be dominated by Fury, though we are not sure about the outcome of the next match because both have strong punches that can knock out their opponent. I am wondering why Wilder hasn't got enough from Fury. It was so clear on their last fight that he was outclassed by Fury resulting in him being knocked out and possibly the same thing will happen unless Wilder get a lucky punch that will knock Fury out, or maybe he is relying on this in their next rematch if there is one.

Right, just imagine if Wilder lost again, but with a devastating KO from Fury in their third match. That will really put him out of the discussions and we don't know how is he going to rebuild if such scenario happened. The ball is on him right now, we can call it a suicide if he directly go for rematch against Fury.

Can he adjust?

For sure Fury will come in again the heaviest between the two and bring his technical skills. But what is scary is that Fury is no longer the pillow fisted fighter we know or at least what Wilder is trying to picture him in their first fight. Fury has now power in both hands, and Wilder best punch was taken by Fury and didn't affect him a bit and he keeps on coming forward.

Yep, that's what I'm trying to say, how can he adjust to that kind of onslaught. And it seems that his only weapon, his right hand is not being effective as Tyson Fury. He ate it like nothing, its like saying that Wilder has given his 100% on the second fight, lost it fair and square, then make excuses. Can he elevate his power to 110%? Power puncher are born not made, so I don't know what adjustments he has in mind to beat Fury in the third fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 03, 2020, 03:57:03 AM

I will back Tyson Fury this time around. The third fight will be much the same as the second fight as Fury have already figure out on how to defeat the smaller Wilder just like how Joshua defeated Ruiz on their rematch. I don't think this is a good idea on the Wilder camp, they should have fought 2-3 tune up fights before a trilogy with Fury.

Did you back Wilder though in the second fight? I'm not surprised though, because we thought that Wilder will knock out Fury, he almost did in the first, however, the rematch was very very different.

I will also go with Fury in the trilogy, he has everything, the momentum, the power, the technical skills to toy around Wilder. And we can all see the Wilder is somewhat out of his mind in chasing a trilogy. Only few boxers can go back from that sort of beating and won again.

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Do you really think Wilder will knock out Fury? Keeping that aside if you think Wilder will win, in which round would you say?

Quote from: stadus on February 29, 2020, 07:32:16 PM

It's Wilder's last chance to prove that he can bounce back after a big lose.
I think in the 3rd fight, people would follow their emotion and they will be hype about Fury's win and that would give a better betting odds for Wilder.
I'm wondering what would be the odds for "Wilder to win by KO", I am pretty sure I'll bet on that.

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I like to share some prediction on the odds of the Fury vs Wilder 3, from https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/fury-wilder-3-odds-and-prediction

That would be :

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Deontay Wilder Vs Tyson Fury Betting Odds
Boxer   Odds
Deontay Wilder   +185
Tyson Fury   -215

Therefore for Wilder Fans, you got a good betting odds here, in case Wilder would bounce back with a win.

I don't think those Wilder odds are good at all.

He probably got concussed in the first fight and we heard stories that he broke his hand before the second Luis Ortiz fight. With all the injuries Wilder is racking up I really don't think he has much of a chance of winning either.

He's too stupid to realize that a 40lb suit might tire him out before the fight, then fires the trainer who saved him from a devastating knockout, I doubt he's smart enough to adapt to Fury in the third fight.

I think Fury will smother him once again in the third, and win even more convincingly, this time by a full-fledged KO.

I respect your opinion but me getting that odds, I'd be more thrill to watch the fight since Wilder though loss in his last fight I still believe he has the skills and the power to upset Fury in this 3rd fight. I'd even love to see the odds of Wilder will rise +200 as people keeps putting their money on Fury.

For me Wilder will win contra to Fury, even they both have potential but still Wilder have advantage because I strongly believe to his strength and once his in the battle he give his all best to win what ever it takes. I think he will knock him out, I have no doubt he will win.

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Quote from: Zicadis on March 02, 2020, 11:11:57 AM

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I like to share some prediction on the odds of the Fury vs Wilder 3, from https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/fury-wilder-3-odds-and-prediction

That would be :

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Deontay Wilder Vs Tyson Fury Betting Odds
Boxer   Odds
Deontay Wilder   +185
Tyson Fury   -215

Therefore for Wilder Fans, you got a good betting odds here, in case Wilder would bounce back with a win.

I don't think those Wilder odds are good at all.

He probably got concussed in the first fight and we heard stories that he broke his hand before the second Luis Ortiz fight. With all the injuries Wilder is racking up I really don't think he has much of a chance of winning either.

He's too stupid to realize that a 40lb suit might tire him out before the fight, then fires the trainer who saved him from a devastating knockout, I doubt he's smart enough to adapt to Fury in the third fight.

I think Fury will smother him once again in the third, and win even more convincingly, this time by a full-fledged KO.

I respect your opinion but me getting that odds, I'd be more thrill to watch the fight since Wilder though loss in his last fight I still believe he has the skills and the power to upset Fury in this 3rd fight. I'd even love to see the odds of Wilder will rise +200 as people keeps putting their money on Fury.

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I will back Tyson Fury this time around. The third fight will be much the same as the second fight as Fury have already figure out on how to defeat the smaller Wilder just like how Joshua defeated Ruiz on their rematch. I don't think this is a good idea on the Wilder camp, they should have fought 2-3 tune up fights before a trilogy with Fury.

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Quote from: stadus on March 01, 2020, 06:51:36 PM

Well, the two games that we saw might already be enough for us fans to prove that It's Fury who is the better fighter but Wilder is still a champ, he only loss 1 game and he still have a lot of fans and followers out their, give a man a chance to bounce back, besides these two are fun to watch, so another shot.

I also like the idea of the Holywood-like movie when the unbeaten main character lost and then bounce back to beat the opponent. However, in reality, Wilder needs to recover from his injury first before come back in training. Meanwhile, Fury still in good shape.

Then, let's assume Wilder could recover on time, rest, and start his training regime without further obstacles. He needs to devise new plans to neutralize Fury's ability to... well... everything. Fury is just an overall better boxer; meanwhile, Wilder only knows to do right swinging punches.

But yeah, the house would come up with multipliers that could tempt bettors, maybe 8x would do?

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Quote from: Zicadis on March 02, 2020, 11:11:57 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on March 02, 2020, 08:57:26 AM

I like to share some prediction on the odds of the Fury vs Wilder 3, from https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/fury-wilder-3-odds-and-prediction

That would be :

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Deontay Wilder Vs Tyson Fury Betting Odds
Boxer   Odds
Deontay Wilder   +185
Tyson Fury   -215

Therefore for Wilder Fans, you got a good betting odds here, in case Wilder would bounce back with a win.

I don't think those Wilder odds are good at all.

He probably got concussed in the first fight and we heard stories that he broke his hand before the second Luis Ortiz fight. With all the injuries Wilder is racking up I really don't think he has much of a chance of winning either.

He's too stupid to realize that a 40lb suit might tire him out before the fight, then fires the trainer who saved him from a devastating knockout, I doubt he's smart enough to adapt to Fury in the third fight.

I think Fury will smother him once again in the third, and win even more convincingly, this time by a full-fledged KO.

Deontay's Wilder's odds on Nitrogensports is 3.143 or +214 in American odds. It might be a good bet. Teddy Atlas calls his right hand the eraser because it erases past mistakes hehehhe.

Also, Wilder's excuses about injuries or the heavy suit are not real. He is only giving us something to doubt to make it easier for him and his team to sell the next fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on March 02, 2020, 01:13:57 PM

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury fight will take place July 18 at the MGM Grand Garden, Las Vegas.
Imagine Fury with more time and more training sessions.
I predict KO again, and this time much earlier.

Where did you see that it is being held at the MGM Grand? I really think that Deontay Wilder should fight on Fury's home turf.... After all, Fury has gone to the start twice now for their fights.

Wilder hasn't got the guts to fight in Fury's backyard!

Then again, maybe Fury has contractual obligations, hence why he's staying in the US?

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Quote from: stadus on February 29, 2020, 07:32:16 PM

I'm wondering what would be the odds for "Wilder to win by KO", I am pretty sure I'll bet on that.

They fight for fame and prizes, we bet to win, a bigger odds means a bigger reward, as much as I can see Wilder being knocked out again, I would also not want to pass a possible opportunity to earn bigger price by betting on the impossible. I will likely bet on that too.

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That is the fundamental problem with the mindset Wilder is trying to create for himself. He still sees himself and Fury as he did in the first fight but that is him being delusional.

I just cannot see Wilder adjusting to the Fury onslaught. the only thing that might change in the third fight is Wilder coming out more active in the first two rounds unleashing that big right hand at every opportunity in the hope of knocking out Fury but when he realises he has no hope, it will a re-run of the second fight. Fury will beat Wilder.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 29, 2020, 12:08:54 PM

Same here. I think no matter how hard Wilder tries to regain his "honor" against Fury, he will be played and be dominated by Fury, though we are not sure about the outcome of the next match because both have strong punches that can knock out their opponent. I am wondering why Wilder hasn't got enough from Fury. It was so clear on their last fight that he was outclassed by Fury resulting in him being knocked out and possibly the same thing will happen unless Wilder get a lucky punch that will knock Fury out, or maybe he is relying on this in their next rematch if there is one.

Right, just imagine if Wilder lost again, but with a devastating KO from Fury in their third match. That will really put him out of the discussions and we don't know how is he going to rebuild if such scenario happened. The ball is on him right now, we can call it a suicide if he directly go for rematch against Fury.

Can he adjust?

For sure Fury will come in again the heaviest between the two and bring his technical skills. But what is scary is that Fury is no longer the pillow fisted fighter we know or at least what Wilder is trying to picture him in their first fight. Fury has now power in both hands, and Wilder best punch was taken by Fury and didn't affect him a bit and he keeps on coming forward.

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Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury fight will take place July 18 at the MGM Grand Garden, Las Vegas.
Imagine Fury with more time and more training sessions.
I predict KO again, and this time much earlier.

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Quote from: Zicadis on March 02, 2020, 11:11:57 AM

I don't think those Wilder odds are good at all.

He probably got concussed in the first fight and we heard stories that he broke his hand before the second Luis Ortiz fight. With all the injuries Wilder is racking up I really don't think he has much of a chance of winning either.

He's too stupid to realize that a 40lb suit might tire him out before the fight, then fires the trainer who saved him from a devastating knockout, I doubt he's smart enough to adapt to Fury in the third fight.

I think Fury will smother him once again in the third, and win even more convincingly, this time by a full-fledged KO.

On the road to the fight, Wilder will do his old antic of intimidating his opponent and all these excuses will come out on their conferences face-off and interviews, he will want the world to think that the fight is a fluke and all his excuses are all true, and this is to make the fight interesting and to hype it, even more, this is one last chance to redeem himself.

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