[Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule - page 3.

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Quote from: harizen on April 07, 2022, 06:53:06 PM

Quote from: Japinat on April 07, 2022, 03:41:37 PM

Just try to analyze the age difference,
Murata 36 years old
GGG 39 years old.

not much of a difference, right?

I have pointed this out before that's why I don't understand why age is a factor and considered a disadvantage for GGG. 3 years gap is really nothing. They are both already past their prime.

GGG is also around 35-36 years old when he fights Canelo in his super-prime status but still, the latter struggle to beat the sh*t out of GGG.

Like I always said, Murata's only advantage is the homecourt and the full support of Japan's people on his back. GGG is a tough wall to defeat and having a strong moral is not enough as an advantage.

Having the crowd wont really be enough as we all know but the boost up because you are fighting in your home country plus having that support will really be giving out that emotion but wont be enough on beating GGG>

Its not surprising that people would really be looking for the factors specially on age because we know that it would really take some toll on boxers performance.
Cant blame them though but GGG could still fucked Murata on this fight without any doubts.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2022, 01:49:15 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on April 06, 2022, 08:28:04 PM

Murata is confident about this fight with GGG and he believes that he is already way past his prime. They are citing GGG's poor performance against Kamil Szeremeta.

That is just one fight though, we really don't know if GGG is no longer at his best because he is 40 years old. So he shouldn't be that confident as he might be in for a surprise if GGG can still fight as if he is not 40 years old.

Even GGG already past from his prime but if he got lucky and land a solid punch to Murata that still can bring him down, we really can't say who will going to win from both fighters, they are unpredictable a careless move will give the other side a good chance to knock their opponent's down, best to play solid defense while analysing on how to perform solid attacks and win the fight.

No need for a lucky punch by GGG. He can do it even facing Murata's defense. Just to remind everyone that both boxers have passed their prime. It's now the battle of strategies or how will they counter their respective offensive actions. GGG is known for his strong punches while keeping a strong defense. How can a Murata, that is not even known as a good counter puncher, can match GGG's defense.

Murata needs to be careful on that GGG punches as all of those have the possibility to knock him down.

The only way for Murata to win is to gain points every round but likewise, GGG can also do the same.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 07, 2022, 03:41:37 PM

Just try to analyze the age difference,
Murata 36 years old
GGG 39 years old.

not much of a difference, right?

I have pointed this out before that's why I don't understand why age is a factor and considered a disadvantage for GGG. 3 years gap is really nothing. They are both already past their prime.

GGG is also around 35-36 years old when he fights Canelo in his super-prime status but still, the latter struggle to beat the sh*t out of GGG.

Like I always said, Murata's only advantage is the homecourt and the full support of Japan's people on his back. GGG is a tough wall to defeat and having a strong moral is not enough as an advantage.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2022, 01:49:15 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on April 06, 2022, 08:28:04 PM

Murata is confident about this fight with GGG and he believes that he is already way past his prime. They are citing GGG's poor performance against Kamil Szeremeta.

That is just one fight though, we really don't know if GGG is no longer at his best because he is 40 years old. So he shouldn't be that confident as he might be in for a surprise if GGG can still fight as if he is not 40 years old.

Even GGG already past from his prime but if he got lucky and land a solid punch to Murata that still can bring him down, we really can't say who will going to win from both fighters, they are unpredictable a careless move will give the other side a good chance to knock their opponent's down, best to play solid defense while analysing on how to perform solid attacks and win the fight.

That's not a problem with GGG because he has been in that situation many times and most of the time he was victorious. He wouldn't be popular if he is not a great fighter, and if only age is the reason why people think he will lose, then I think they are wrong because Pacman has proven that, so I think GGG could do the same.

Just try to analyze the age difference,
Murata 36 years old
GGG 39 years old.

not much of a difference, right?

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 06, 2022, 08:28:04 PM

Murata is confident about this fight with GGG and he believes that he is already way past his prime. They are citing GGG's poor performance against Kamil Szeremeta.

That is just one fight though, we really don't know if GGG is no longer at his best because he is 40 years old. So he shouldn't be that confident as he might be in for a surprise if GGG can still fight as if he is not 40 years old.

Even GGG already past from his prime but if he got lucky and land a solid punch to Murata that still can bring him down, we really can't say who will going to win from both fighters, they are unpredictable a careless move will give the other side a good chance to knock their opponent's down, best to play solid defense while analysing on how to perform solid attacks and win the fight.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 06, 2022, 11:00:35 AM

Quote from: stadus on April 06, 2022, 04:33:00 AM

Wow! That's really tempting mate, I guess I should throw a few dollars on him prior the fight just incase an upset will happen but I would also bet on other betting options as well but it's on GGG's side as his chances of winning is relatively high than Ryota Murata. I'm still thinking like what round could GGG knockout Murata.

If you have some good amount of money to spare, why not right? Upset is always present in any sport, especially with boxing.

We never know if Murata has that speed and strength to beat GGG. The time for conditioning and preparing is too long for both fighters

they can enhance and adjust in whatever they think would give them some advantage when the fight takes place.

On the other note, it's also wise to wait for any additional odd during or a day before the fight most of the time. Bookies add

some other options for gamblers to bet.

I agree! Their time to prepare is already long enough because the fight was supposed to happen before the New Year's day and they got an extra 4 months to prepare for it. 1 more good sleep before the fight Cheesy

Who knows, right? That few spare money could be big in return as there's always that chance of getting an upset in the fight, a chance is a chance no matter how slim it is. But yes, I'll bet and wait for some good odds few hours before the actual fight takes place just what I did in the past fights and I'll look for other good odds in other betting options.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on April 06, 2022, 05:15:26 PM

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Quote from: Jating on April 06, 2022, 04:35:15 AM

^^ Why not? but it depends on how much money you are willing to throw on him. I mean smart money should be on GGG. But anything can happen in a blink of an eye and that very attractive odds might sway some gamblers to put money on Murata for an upset by either knock out or judges decision.

Yes, it's much more clever if your bets would go on GGG as the chances the of him winning is higher than Murata. I wouldn't waste some few dollars on betting Murata because I'm really seeing that a chances of upset on this match is somehow slim.
But what do you think guys, can GGG pull a knockout on this? If yes, what typical round would that be? I'll appreciate to hear another opinion.

TKO you mean? Maybe in round 6 or something later on this one but im not really that familiar about the stamina and endurance of Murata but basing off with an opponent something like GGG then that would really be that

exhausting that much and wondering on how long he could stand against GGG.Im not underestimating Murata but i dont have any doubts that there would be some upset.
Chances is too slim or almost close to impossible but well we know on how chances do works and he might able to pull those odds.

No, I mean KO. Could GGG finish and knockout Murata? That's what I meant, sorry for the misunderstanding.
However, I agree that GGG could pull that knockout somewhere in round 6 to 8 and yes that's fine because we that doesn't really mean that we are underestimating Murata here, I'm just asking for probabilities.

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Murata is confident about this fight with GGG and he believes that he is already way past his prime. They are citing GGG's poor performance against Kamil Szeremeta.

That is just one fight though, we really don't know if GGG is no longer at his best because he is 40 years old. So he shouldn't be that confident as he might be in for a surprise if GGG can still fight as if he is not 40 years old.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 06, 2022, 06:47:32 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 06, 2022, 04:32:37 AM

I can't also believe that he's more famous than the monster Inoue himself, Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan. I can't know for sure why but my best guess would be that he gave honor to Japan when he acquired the gold medal in Olympics.

Naoya Inoue is a Bantamweight Champion where weight plays at 115 lb to 118 lb.

Ryota Murata is a MiddleWeight Champion where weight plays at 154 lb to 160 lb.

That will tell us why Murata is more famous than Inoue. The upper the weight class, especially a Title Holder, the famous they will be.

Murata's WBA Super Middleweight Title was a vacant title previously held by Canelo Alvarez. That's also one of the reasons why Murata is more recognized and popular compared to other boxers in Japan.

I think it is also that Murata has been in the game for so long now, he has traveled and fight in the US way before we even heard about Inoue even campaigning in the States. Nevertheless, Inoue could be the next Japanese boxing superstar no doubt about that.

So this is still very interesting match, and although GGG is the favorite, Murata is a good fighter in his own right.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 06, 2022, 04:32:37 AM

I can't also believe that he's more famous than the monster Inoue himself, Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan. I can't know for sure why but my best guess would be that he gave honor to Japan when he acquired the gold medal in Olympics.

Naoya Inoue is a Bantamweight Champion where weight plays at 115 lb to 118 lb.

Ryota Murata is a MiddleWeight Champion where weight plays at 154 lb to 160 lb.

That will tell us why Murata is more famous than Inoue. The upper the weight class, especially a Title Holder, the famous they will be.

Murata's WBA Super Middleweight Title was a vacant title previously held by Canelo Alvarez. That's also one of the reasons why Murata is more recognized and popular compared to other boxers in Japan.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 06, 2022, 10:42:49 AM

Quote from: Jating on April 06, 2022, 04:35:15 AM

^^ Why not? but it depends on how much money you are willing to throw on him. I mean smart money should be on GGG. But anything can happen in a blink of an eye and that very attractive odds might sway some gamblers to put money on Murata for an upset by either knock out or judges decision.

Yes, it's much more clever if your bets would go on GGG as the chances the of him winning is higher than Murata. I wouldn't waste some few dollars on betting Murata because I'm really seeing that a chances of upset on this match is somehow slim.
But what do you think guys, can GGG pull a knockout on this? If yes, what typical round would that be? I'll appreciate to hear another opinion.

TKO you mean? Maybe in round 6 or something later on this one but im not really that familiar about the stamina and endurance of Murata but basing off with an opponent something like GGG then that would really be that

exhausting that much and wondering on how long he could stand against GGG.Im not underestimating Murata but i dont have any doubts that there would be some upset.
Chances is too slim or almost close to impossible but well we know on how chances do works and he might able to pull those odds.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 05, 2022, 08:39:28 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 05, 2022, 08:15:08 AM

It seems to me that I would consider betting on GGG's opponent with odds no less than 8-9.

That's not possible because this fight is a unification fight, if you want to get that kind of odds, then you should guess what round GGG would KO Murata as you cannot change the current odds. Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.

I think there have already been many cases when in a unification or other championship fight one of the fighters was a clear favorite and, accordingly, the chances of his defeat were much more than 10. If Murata's fans don't just believe in him but are also generously betting on him to win then I understand why the odds are what they are, however I continue to believe that GGG will win this fight without a problem.

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Quote from: stadus on April 06, 2022, 04:33:00 AM

Wow! That's really tempting mate, I guess I should throw a few dollars on him prior the fight just incase an upset will happen but I would also bet on other betting options as well but it's on GGG's side as his chances of winning is relatively high than Ryota Murata. I'm still thinking like what round could GGG knockout Murata.

If you have some good amount of money to spare, why not right? Upset is always present in any sport, especially with boxing.

We never know if Murata has that speed and strength to beat GGG. The time for conditioning and preparing is too long for both fighters

they can enhance and adjust in whatever they think would give them some advantage when the fight takes place.

On the other note, it's also wise to wait for any additional odd during or a day before the fight most of the time. Bookies add

some other options for gamblers to bet.

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Quote from: Jating on April 06, 2022, 04:35:15 AM

^^ Why not? but it depends on how much money you are willing to throw on him. I mean smart money should be on GGG. But anything can happen in a blink of an eye and that very attractive odds might sway some gamblers to put money on Murata for an upset by either knock out or judges decision.

Yes, it's much more clever if your bets would go on GGG as the chances the of him winning is higher than Murata. I wouldn't waste some few dollars on betting Murata because I'm really seeing that a chances of upset on this match is somehow slim.
But what do you think guys, can GGG pull a knockout on this? If yes, what typical round would that be? I'll appreciate to hear another opinion.

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^^ Why not? but it depends on how much money you are willing to throw on him. I mean smart money should be on GGG. But anything can happen in a blink of an eye and that very attractive odds might sway some gamblers to put money on Murata for an upset by either knock out or judges decision.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 05, 2022, 09:18:57 AM

Quote from: CaVO32 on April 04, 2022, 05:22:26 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 04, 2022, 04:52:20 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 04, 2022, 07:14:16 AM

Ok here is the latest odds from sportsbet:

So Murata is still 4:1 underdog in this fight, and it also reflects the poll results. And I also don't think that there will be some home cook decision in this fight. Japanese are not known to be biased, so I expect a fair fight in the eyes of the judges.

I think that even this odds 1.2 can be considered generous for a bet on the victory of GGG. The difference in age is negligible and the difference in class is huge. Most likely, bookmakers give such a coefficient simply on the basis that the aging GGG will misfire in approximately the upcoming 4-5 fights simply because of his age and insufficient mood (now he is far from young and must mobilize all his strength for victories).

But for Murata fans, betting on this odds will be favorable for them. A lot of boxing matches ended up upset so won't be surprised if this one will turn out to be another one. I know, there are so many GGG fans here but we don't know what kind of preparation both are doing. Sometimes, it is all in the preparation. And yes, even if this will happen in Murata's home country, I am confident that they will do the right things here. Japanese people are one of the honest people that I know of.

For Murata's fans, the odd for him to win is very attractive,
if you believe that upset can be done by him that x4 for your money is really decent once he wins the fight.
It's more on how the fighter and the camps prepare for this fight. Like what you have
said, there are many upsets that happened from this past year. We never know if this one will also bring that
same outcome or GGG will dominate and win.

Wow! That's really tempting mate, I guess I should throw a few dollars on him prior the fight just incase an upset will happen but I would also bet on other betting options as well but it's on GGG's side as his chances of winning is relatively high than Ryota Murata. I'm still thinking like what round could GGG knockout Murata.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 05, 2022, 08:39:28 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 05, 2022, 08:15:08 AM

It seems to me that I would consider betting on GGG's opponent with odds no less than 8-9.

That's not possible because this fight is a unification fight, if you want to get that kind of odds, then you should guess what round GGG would KO Murata as you cannot change the current odds. Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.

Betting on Murata isn't that bad idea as he also have that chance to upset GGG, being an underdog cannot be underestimated, we surely saw many upsets in the past years. About the odds, it shows that it could be much profiting if you bet on Murata's side. However, I can't really see that happening and it's just a waste of time.

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Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.

I can't also believe that he's more famous than the monster Inoue himself, Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan. I can't know for sure why but my best guess would be that he gave honor to Japan when he acquired the gold medal in Olympics.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on April 04, 2022, 05:22:26 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 04, 2022, 04:52:20 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 04, 2022, 07:14:16 AM

Ok here is the latest odds from sportsbet:

So Murata is still 4:1 underdog in this fight, and it also reflects the poll results. And I also don't think that there will be some home cook decision in this fight. Japanese are not known to be biased, so I expect a fair fight in the eyes of the judges.

I think that even this odds 1.2 can be considered generous for a bet on the victory of GGG. The difference in age is negligible and the difference in class is huge. Most likely, bookmakers give such a coefficient simply on the basis that the aging GGG will misfire in approximately the upcoming 4-5 fights simply because of his age and insufficient mood (now he is far from young and must mobilize all his strength for victories).

But for Murata fans, betting on this odds will be favorable for them. A lot of boxing matches ended up upset so won't be surprised if this one will turn out to be another one. I know, there are so many GGG fans here but we don't know what kind of preparation both are doing. Sometimes, it is all in the preparation. And yes, even if this will happen in Murata's home country, I am confident that they will do the right things here. Japanese people are one of the honest people that I know of.

For Murata's fans, the odd for him to win is very attractive,
if you believe that upset can be done by him that x4 for your money is really decent once he wins the fight.
It's more on how the fighter and the camps prepare for this fight. Like what you have
said, there are many upsets that happened from this past year. We never know if this one will also bring that
same outcome or GGG will dominate and win.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 05, 2022, 08:15:08 AM

It seems to me that I would consider betting on GGG's opponent with odds no less than 8-9.

That's not possible because this fight is a unification fight, if you want to get that kind of odds, then you should guess what round GGG would KO Murata as you cannot change the current odds. Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on April 04, 2022, 05:22:26 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on April 04, 2022, 04:52:20 PM

I think that even this odds 1.2 can be considered generous for a bet on the victory of GGG. The difference in age is negligible and the difference in class is huge. Most likely, bookmakers give such a coefficient simply on the basis that the aging GGG will misfire in approximately the upcoming 4-5 fights simply because of his age and insufficient mood (now he is far from young and must mobilize all his strength for victories).

But for Murata fans, betting on this odds will be favorable for them. A lot of boxing matches ended up upset so won't be surprised if this one will turn out to be another one. I know, there are so many GGG fans here but we don't know what kind of preparation both are doing. Sometimes, it is all in the preparation. And yes, even if this will happen in Murata's home country, I am confident that they will do the right things here. Japanese people are one of the honest people that I know of.

4.5 on the accidental defeat of GGG? In my opinion, this is too unjustified a figure to bet on GGG's opponent. I don't see any hint that this is going to be a competitive fight and it's not a super heavyweight class where you can hope for one lucky punch to turn the fight around. It seems to me that I would consider betting on GGG's opponent with odds no less than 8-9.

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