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March 30, 2022, 05:17:40 AM
Yes, that is quite normal nowadays knowing that GGG and Canelo was two of the best boxer in our generations now, so we know the fact that many fans and people are also looking forward for their trilogy. Specifically now that there is a higher chance that it will happen, so often times people will forget that they still have their own respective fights that will be a test for each other if the trilogy will be interesting or not.

The Trilogy was expected to happen in September. GGG will fight next month and Canelo in May. If ever one of them loses on their respective fight, the fans will be able to move on it within 1-2 months. Therefore, after that period, we can expect that there will be another hype for that trilogy until the month of September, the big night in boxing history this year.

Win or lose, that trilogy will happen. It's just that on the side of GGG losing against Murata, it seems not to make sense to make a fight against Canelo if he can't beat a much easy opponent as it should be.

And it really make sense for the fight to happen regardless if they win or both (but it will be good marketing if both are going to win though).

Another reason is that the revenue will be huge for everyone, Canelo will get the lion share of the purse split and now that the whole pandemic is easing, people are willing to go out an spend their money just to watch a good fight like this. So it's a win-win for everyone, money wise.

And maybe this is the big reason why Canelo agreed now, because he was totally against the 3rd fight because there is nothing to proved as he beat GGG already.

But as he mature and maybe by some advise of his close families and confidante, now it make sense because of the money and for his legacy.
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March 29, 2022, 08:40:52 PM
Yes, that is quite normal nowadays knowing that GGG and Canelo was two of the best boxer in our generations now, so we know the fact that many fans and people are also looking forward for their trilogy. Specifically now that there is a higher chance that it will happen, so often times people will forget that they still have their own respective fights that will be a test for each other if the trilogy will be interesting or not.

The Trilogy was expected to happen in September. GGG will fight next month and Canelo in May. If ever one of them loses on their respective fight, the fans will be able to move on it within 1-2 months. Therefore, after that period, we can expect that there will be another hype for that trilogy until the month of September, the big night in boxing history this year.

Win or lose, that trilogy will happen. It's just that on the side of GGG losing against Murata, it seems not to make sense to make a fight against Canelo if he can't beat a much easy opponent as it should be.

And it really make sense for the fight to happen regardless if they win or both (but it will be good marketing if both are going to win though).

Another reason is that the revenue will be huge for everyone, Canelo will get the lion share of the purse split and now that the whole pandemic is easing, people are willing to go out an spend their money just to watch a good fight like this. So it's a win-win for everyone, money wise.
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March 29, 2022, 06:50:31 PM
Yes, that is quite normal nowadays knowing that GGG and Canelo was two of the best boxer in our generations now, so we know the fact that many fans and people are also looking forward for their trilogy. Specifically now that there is a higher chance that it will happen, so often times people will forget that they still have their own respective fights that will be a test for each other if the trilogy will be interesting or not.

The Trilogy was expected to happen in September. GGG will fight next month and Canelo in May. If ever one of them loses on their respective fight, the fans will be able to move on it within 1-2 months. Therefore, after that period, we can expect that there will be another hype for that trilogy until the month of September, the big night in boxing history this year.

Win or lose, that trilogy will happen. It's just that on the side of GGG losing against Murata, it seems not to make sense to make a fight against Canelo if he can't beat a much easy opponent as it should be.
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March 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Still a pride from a prime fighter, GGG still wants to prove that he deserves it.

They both need to win their upcoming fights and then discuss the possible trilogy once everything is already settled. We might see more

aggressive and yet focus GGG during his fight against Murata, he needs work harder to stay fit and flexible to beat Murata in front of his

fans. Best way to sell his name and bring more interest for the fans to call for the trilogy and established promoter's interest.

But again, things will only take place if both GGG and Alvarez will win on their respective fights.
It is interesting that as soon as the trilogy was back over the table people almost immediately forgot about the next fights of both GGG and Canelo and we are just assuming they are going to win their respective matches and the trilogy will take place.

However as we know anything can happen in boxing, and the plans of that fight could be derailed in a way similar to what happened to the Wilder vs Joshua unification fight that was supposed to take place, but Ruiz and then Fury ruined that possibility and even if I do not want that to happen Murata and Bivol could do the same to GGG and Canelo.

Yes, that is quite normal nowadays knowing that GGG and Canelo was two of the best boxer in our generations now, so we know the fact that many fans and people are also looking forward for their trilogy. Specifically now that there is a higher chance that it will happen, so often times people will forget that they still have their own respective fights that will be a test for each other if the trilogy will be interesting or not.
Wayback on where people been talking about no possibility of Trilogy
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/06/canelo-no-interest-in-ggg-trilogy-wants-callum-smith-or-kovalev/

and now it do change
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-gennaidy-golovkin-trilogy-dmitry-bivol/xwjul4zbk5u2qttpnlhzhhay

Of course promoters would really be setting out fights and agrees as long it could really make out some big revenue which
changes isnt something to be shocked on.
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March 29, 2022, 02:22:31 PM
Still a pride from a prime fighter, GGG still wants to prove that he deserves it.

They both need to win their upcoming fights and then discuss the possible trilogy once everything is already settled. We might see more

aggressive and yet focus GGG during his fight against Murata, he needs work harder to stay fit and flexible to beat Murata in front of his

fans. Best way to sell his name and bring more interest for the fans to call for the trilogy and established promoter's interest.

But again, things will only take place if both GGG and Alvarez will win on their respective fights.
It is interesting that as soon as the trilogy was back over the table people almost immediately forgot about the next fights of both GGG and Canelo and we are just assuming they are going to win their respective matches and the trilogy will take place.

However as we know anything can happen in boxing, and the plans of that fight could be derailed in a way similar to what happened to the Wilder vs Joshua unification fight that was supposed to take place, but Ruiz and then Fury ruined that possibility and even if I do not want that to happen Murata and Bivol could do the same to GGG and Canelo.

Yes, that is quite normal nowadays knowing that GGG and Canelo was two of the best boxer in our generations now, so we know the fact that many fans and people are also looking forward for their trilogy. Specifically now that there is a higher chance that it will happen, so often times people will forget that they still have their own respective fights that will be a test for each other if the trilogy will be interesting or not.
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March 28, 2022, 12:44:56 PM
It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.

Murata's experience is not solid. And he is not young at 36. At that age, a boxer is considered as veteran age and almost close to retirement age. The only advantage of Murata in this fight is, he will fight in front of his home audience in Japan. It will boost his confidence that will trigger his determination to win the fight even the chances are low (green eyes in the anime series, Hajime No Ippo lol).

But on the serious side, GGG shouldn't have any problem fighting with Murata. He is way too weak compared to other boxers that GGG faced since he turned 35. The Canelo-GGG II if I'm not mistaken was done when GGG is 36. See the gap 4 years from now, his strength should still be at 40 years old.

Good point! Murata is no longer on his prime, same with GGG, stamina wise, it's not far between the two.

Like what you just mentioned, the only thing that we can say as advantage is fighting in front of your home crowd, but in
boxing it can be the opponent's advantage.

Being inspired that the crowd is against you will boost more inside of you. That determination to win and prove that
you are much better than the crowd is cheering with.

Exactly, what we have here now is just a pure and mere speculations but the difference is that we are basing it through some facts that have happened in previous years and we cannot deny that GGG have the higher hand in this fight considering his stamina, ring IQ, and especially the experience compared to the younger and inexperienced Murata who only have its strengths and advantage because the fight will happen in his own homeland. We can expect that it will really boost his confidence and determination to give a good fight but the chances will remain the same.
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March 28, 2022, 12:37:52 PM
Still a pride from a prime fighter, GGG still wants to prove that he deserves it.

They both need to win their upcoming fights and then discuss the possible trilogy once everything is already settled. We might see more

aggressive and yet focus GGG during his fight against Murata, he needs work harder to stay fit and flexible to beat Murata in front of his

fans. Best way to sell his name and bring more interest for the fans to call for the trilogy and established promoter's interest.

But again, things will only take place if both GGG and Alvarez will win on their respective fights.
It is interesting that as soon as the trilogy was back over the table people almost immediately forgot about the next fights of both GGG and Canelo and we are just assuming they are going to win their respective matches and the trilogy will take place.

However as we know anything can happen in boxing, and the plans of that fight could be derailed in a way similar to what happened to the Wilder vs Joshua unification fight that was supposed to take place, but Ruiz and then Fury ruined that possibility and even if I do not want that to happen Murata and Bivol could do the same to GGG and Canelo.
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March 28, 2022, 10:24:50 AM

I am definitely looking for that surprise, if Murata wins, then be it, and that means no more trilogy. GGG will definitely work hard for this fight as he also know himself what's next for him if he wins this fight, and as per rumors, he would again go with Canelo which gives him a chance to prove himself that he won the last 2 fights.
Still a pride from a prime fighter, GGG still wants to prove that he deserves it.

They both need to win their upcoming fights and then discuss the possible trilogy once everything is already settled. We might see more

aggressive and yet focus GGG during his fight against Murata, he needs work harder to stay fit and flexible to beat Murata in front of his

fans. Best way to sell his name and bring more interest for the fans to call for the trilogy and established promoter's interest.

But again, things will only take place if both GGG and Alvarez will win on their respective fights.
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March 27, 2022, 11:35:51 PM
It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.

Murata's experience is not solid. And he is not young at 36. At that age, a boxer is considered as veteran age and almost close to retirement age. The only advantage of Murata in this fight is, he will fight in front of his home audience in Japan. It will boost his confidence that will trigger his determination to win the fight even the chances are low (green eyes in the anime series, Hajime No Ippo lol).

But on the serious side, GGG shouldn't have any problem fighting with Murata. He is way too weak compared to other boxers that GGG faced since he turned 35. The Canelo-GGG II if I'm not mistaken was done when GGG is 36. See the gap 4 years from now, his strength should still be at 40 years old.

Good point! Murata is no longer on his prime, same with GGG, stamina wise, it's not far between the two.

Like what you just mentioned, the only thing that we can say as advantage is fighting in front of your home crowd, but in
boxing it can be the opponent's advantage.

Being inspired that the crowd is against you will boost more inside of you. That determination to win and prove that
you are much better than the crowd is cheering with.
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March 27, 2022, 09:00:04 PM


That's right! Murata is still a threat on GGG's career even though there's a much more anticipated fight ahead of him which is the trilogy, even so he still needs to face Murata first and defeat him in-order to retain the hype of the fight that he is been calling for years now.

About Murata, I know that he is been really preparing for this fight because these are the fights that he has probably waited for years to have that one fight that will change his career and defeating GGG will be a good stepping stone for his career as it would really give him more opportunities in this industry.

What interests me on this fight is not how Murata will perform or his motivation but how GGG will handle himself going to this fight and the fight day, old age is catching up with him although I have not seen him slowing down on his last fight, every boxer's dilemma is their age and the body's reaction, the mind is still there but the body does not react to what the mind wants, it's not on Murata but if GGG still has it, if he still has it GGG can win this easily.

That's why this is going to be a very competitive fight as Murata is going to test GGG in this fight in every round. It will be obvious if age will catch up on GGG in this fight, he will be slow and then Murata winning the fight to someone thwart the possible trilogy with Canelo. So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.
True. We know how good GGG is, he is a top boxer and known with a heavy hands that can cause damage to his opponent but its not certain if his performance before would still be the same now. If he defeat Murata then he can prove that he still got what it takes to be a top boxer and age is not a hindrance. However, its not going to be an easy fight since Murata is younger and a good boxer also. Lets just see who will dominate the ring.

Yes, I totally agree, this is not going to be walk in the park fight for GGG, he really need to work very hard to get a win against Murata. GGG is know to have power in both hands, and we don't know if it has diminished already because in his last fight, his critics says that he seems to be losing some power already. But we will see, for sure he is extra motivated because of the future fight with Alvarez. So he will have to go and beat Murata and try to dominate him and convince us that he has a chance against Alvarez.
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March 27, 2022, 04:19:44 PM
That's right! Murata is still a threat on GGG's career even though there's a much more anticipated fight ahead of him which is the trilogy, even so he still needs to face Murata first and defeat him in-order to retain the hype of the fight that he is been calling for years now.

About Murata, I know that he is been really preparing for this fight because these are the fights that he has probably waited for years to have that one fight that will change his career and defeating GGG will be a good stepping stone for his career as it would really give him more opportunities in this industry.
Apart from being the pride of Murata, of course, this will be more encouraging, especially if he manages to win.
He is now getting motivated even though he is still the underdog but it is better because the opportunity for Murata is still there even if he is not underdog.
He will play loose because even if he loses he will still be seen as a pretty good boxer but the big pressure is on GGG now.
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March 27, 2022, 03:41:09 PM
It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.

Murata's experience is not solid. And he is not young at 36. At that age, a boxer is considered as veteran age and almost close to retirement age. The only advantage of Murata in this fight is, he will fight in front of his home audience in Japan. It will boost his confidence that will trigger his determination to win the fight even the chances are low (green eyes in the anime series, Hajime No Ippo lol).

But on the serious side, GGG shouldn't have any problem fighting with Murata. He is way too weak compared to other boxers that GGG faced since he turned 35. The Canelo-GGG II if I'm not mistaken was done when GGG is 36. See the gap 4 years from now, his strength should still be at 40 years old.
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March 27, 2022, 03:14:48 PM


It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.
I agree with your. Both are good boxers and both of their strengths - I like the punching speed of GGG while I like the strength of Murata. He is certainly young and have his own positive energy. But coming to the ring sometime universal has its own way to decide- I trust energies as well. But hope for the best. May the best one wins.
They are way too much in gap when it comes to experience and but speaking of KO percentage then both are just the same almost on that area which is that they
are both hard puncher plus have that power which cant be denied.They do only differ on experience and of course with age which we could somehow make out
some presumptions that underdog could take a shot but majority of fans do knows that GGG does have the advantage which i couldnt be surprised that
he's the favorite on this one.
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March 27, 2022, 03:10:54 PM


It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.
I agree with your. Both are good boxers and both of their strengths - I like the punching speed of GGG while I like the strength of Murata. He is certainly young and have his own positive energy. But coming to the ring sometime universal has its own way to decide- I trust energies as well. But hope for the best. May the best one wins.
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March 27, 2022, 01:39:25 PM


That's right! Murata is still a threat on GGG's career even though there's a much more anticipated fight ahead of him which is the trilogy, even so he still needs to face Murata first and defeat him in-order to retain the hype of the fight that he is been calling for years now.

About Murata, I know that he is been really preparing for this fight because these are the fights that he has probably waited for years to have that one fight that will change his career and defeating GGG will be a good stepping stone for his career as it would really give him more opportunities in this industry.

What interests me on this fight is not how Murata will perform or his motivation but how GGG will handle himself going to this fight and the fight day, old age is catching up with him although I have not seen him slowing down on his last fight, every boxer's dilemma is their age and the body's reaction, the mind is still there but the body does not react to what the mind wants, it's not on Murata but if GGG still has it, if he still has it GGG can win this easily.

That's why this is going to be a very competitive fight as Murata is going to test GGG in this fight in every round. It will be obvious if age will catch up on GGG in this fight, he will be slow and then Murata winning the fight to someone thwart the possible trilogy with Canelo. So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.
True. We know how good GGG is, he is a top boxer and known with a heavy hands that can cause damage to his opponent but its not certain if his performance before would still be the same now. If he defeat Murata then he can prove that he still got what it takes to be a top boxer and age is not a hindrance. However, its not going to be an easy fight since Murata is younger and a good boxer also. Lets just see who will dominate the ring.

It won't be an easy fight for the both of them just as Murata is young and a decent boxer while GGG is more older but he had more experience and IQ in the ring, that will be his advantage for this for this fight. But let's not talk about the age because that's not an issue in this fight because it's just a 4 year gap between the two boxers, so it's not going to be an advantage or disadvantage for the both side. Instead, we will see next month who will be more capable.
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March 27, 2022, 11:49:34 AM
So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.

Golovkin very well knows that he is in the retirement stage he has done a lot of things for the boxing community and established his legacy, the one thing missing right now is the conclusion of his epic match against Canelo, and since there is news of them fighting each other again it will excite both fighters to hurdle their respective opponents, I hope to see the same Golovkin aggressive and a good technical fighter who can go to toe and come out the better fighter.

There is news bro related to the expected trilogy fight between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin that's why it become a talk of the town.

Of course, not unless these two will win their upcoming fight, that's the only time the negotiation will start. The speculated month of the bout is around September. Before Canelo already ends their chapter saying he's not interested with GGG but things have changed and he now becomes open for a Part III of their fight.

For now, we can't expect any progress. We should wait first to settle theose upcoming fights of these two.
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March 27, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
He is one of the boxers who stands at the top in his current class and indeed this requires a lot of struggle for GGG.
Technically, if you look at it from there, it's certainly as expected in this forum because GGG is definitely the favorite and indeed Murata is the Underdog, but indeed this will be tough and most likely this will be a battle with calculations later

I believe that Murata is not just a simple boxer that GGG should take him easy because this man Murata will truly give a difficult fight for him. It cannot be denied that GGG is the crowd's favorite here but it is also undeniable that he should prepare for this fight to be able to achieve the ultimate goal of winning the battle. I can't wait to see them inside the ring and unfold the result right in front of us who among them will stand out at the end.
As I said before Murata is one of the pretty good boxers in his class and even he can reach the top top in my opinion and that doesn't come from just relaxing because he is indeed a strong enough boxer to reach that level.
Regardless it will be a tough fight no matter who is underdog or underdog but they are very good boxers and they have to stay alert

A win here by Murata will make him a boxing superstar. Imagine beating GGG, he would be just like Horn after beating Pacman but in another way because we all know that the fight was very controversial and Horn falls to the hands of Crawford. What I'm saying is that if Murata would win convincingly, it will give him big opportunities to fight popular boxers going forward.
Of course, with this victory it will clearly boost his popularity as a good fighter and this will definitely attract a lot of attention. GGG is a great boxer and when he loses apart from making the trilogy go down in my opinion this also has an impact on Murata's career advancement rapidly and this is unavoidable that's why even though GGG is seeded but he shouldn't be proud first because he has to overcome if anything big surprise there

I am definitely looking for that surprise, if Murata wins, then be it, and that means no more trilogy. GGG will definitely work hard for this fight as he also know himself what's next for him if he wins this fight, and as per rumors, he would again go with Canelo which gives him a chance to prove himself that he won the last 2 fights.
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March 26, 2022, 11:56:30 PM
So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.

Golovkin very well knows that he is in the retirement stage he has done a lot of things for the boxing community and established his legacy, the one thing missing right now is the conclusion of his epic match against Canelo, and since there is news of them fighting each other again it will excite both fighters to hurdle their respective opponents, I hope to see the same Golovkin aggressive and a good technical fighter who can go to toe and come out the better fighter.
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March 26, 2022, 09:27:19 PM


That's right! Murata is still a threat on GGG's career even though there's a much more anticipated fight ahead of him which is the trilogy, even so he still needs to face Murata first and defeat him in-order to retain the hype of the fight that he is been calling for years now.

About Murata, I know that he is been really preparing for this fight because these are the fights that he has probably waited for years to have that one fight that will change his career and defeating GGG will be a good stepping stone for his career as it would really give him more opportunities in this industry.

What interests me on this fight is not how Murata will perform or his motivation but how GGG will handle himself going to this fight and the fight day, old age is catching up with him although I have not seen him slowing down on his last fight, every boxer's dilemma is their age and the body's reaction, the mind is still there but the body does not react to what the mind wants, it's not on Murata but if GGG still has it, if he still has it GGG can win this easily.

That's why this is going to be a very competitive fight as Murata is going to test GGG in this fight in every round. It will be obvious if age will catch up on GGG in this fight, he will be slow and then Murata winning the fight to someone thwart the possible trilogy with Canelo. So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.
True. We know how good GGG is, he is a top boxer and known with a heavy hands that can cause damage to his opponent but its not certain if his performance before would still be the same now. If he defeat Murata then he can prove that he still got what it takes to be a top boxer and age is not a hindrance. However, its not going to be an easy fight since Murata is younger and a good boxer also. Lets just see who will dominate the ring.
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March 26, 2022, 08:15:01 PM


That's right! Murata is still a threat on GGG's career even though there's a much more anticipated fight ahead of him which is the trilogy, even so he still needs to face Murata first and defeat him in-order to retain the hype of the fight that he is been calling for years now.

About Murata, I know that he is been really preparing for this fight because these are the fights that he has probably waited for years to have that one fight that will change his career and defeating GGG will be a good stepping stone for his career as it would really give him more opportunities in this industry.

What interests me on this fight is not how Murata will perform or his motivation but how GGG will handle himself going to this fight and the fight day, old age is catching up with him although I have not seen him slowing down on his last fight, every boxer's dilemma is their age and the body's reaction, the mind is still there but the body does not react to what the mind wants, it's not on Murata but if GGG still has it, if he still has it GGG can win this easily.

That's why this is going to be a very competitive fight as Murata is going to test GGG in this fight in every round. It will be obvious if age will catch up on GGG in this fight, he will be slow and then Murata winning the fight to someone thwart the possible trilogy with Canelo. So everything rest on the hands of GGG now, he better perform in this fight and show that he still has it and then set the fight with Canelo.
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