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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

That's for sure but I think his camp is not that concerned because Haney is now the undisputed boxer, so money will eventually chase him as many fighters will try to dethrone him from being an undisputed boxer. But yea, PPV wise he ain't gonna make it and he gonna need his opponent to sell the fight to attract viewers.

Money wise he needs to work it out to bring more audiences but I guess his camp will not adjust as they are already succeeding from how they fought and as long as they holding the belt challengers will chase them and it will be defending from the handlers and promoters to bring fans to watch the fight, even if it's a known boring type of fight but if a type of challenger will be more aggressive, maybe or it will magnet fans to chase for Haney.

There are still fans and gamblers who wanted to see another fighter to bring something and possible to disappoint the champion

we never know, basing from experienced there are so many upset from this sport.
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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

That's for sure but I think his camp is not that concerned because Haney is now the undisputed boxer, so money will eventually chase him as many fighters will try to dethrone him from being an undisputed boxer. But yea, PPV wise he ain't gonna make it and he gonna need his opponent to sell the fight to attract viewers.
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The way I see it, that is Garcia's personality, I mean if he could just emulate Oscar when he was young, no trash talking but just wanting to fight the best. But Oscar protege is different, Garcia want's to get all the attention even not related to boxing. But hopefully him and Haney could go fight at 140 pounds in the future.

Everyone has a different personality, that's him, he is showing his real color, he is like Mayweather who loves to get the attention of the people, who knows that's helping him to gain confidence in the fight and probably make more money. We cannot judge though, he is still undefeated til now, so he deserved huge respect as a boxer.
But it is his choice, he wants to become popular through arrogance and hype. You reap what you sow. So it is normal that he will have a lot of haters and disrespect because of that. He should walk the talk at least. And I would rather have the record of Lomachenko with 2 losses already but is proven and tested.

I expect Ryan Garcia to have his title shot next year. Otherwise, he's becoming a joke. And he will lose that fire in him. He cannot fight bums forever.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight Huh?

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.

It's not really clear why Garcia suddenly moved up in weight after he fought Campbell but recently after he fought Fortuna, Garcia said that he's more comfortable in super-lightweight division and that he won't move back in lightweight again. Anyway, I guess he will just eat what he said because he is aiming for Tank Davis and Davis a WBA holder in lightweight, so I guess that he will move back down again.

Garcia is very tall for a 135 lbs, that's why in his last 2 fights, it was in a catch weight of almost 140 lbs because his body can't take it. Just like when Lopez fought the last time at 135 lbs to defend his belt, he lost it and then he made the move.

But he also said that if the money is right specially a Tank Davis at 135 lbs will be available, then for sure he will go back down for this huge fight.

Garcia's height has nothing to do why he is having some struggles in 135 lbs., it's just his body is not natural for that specific weight class that's why he did have a catch weight fight. After that he became inactive for quite some time because of some issues but his camp understood that he will climb in the upper division when he will step back in the ring again, so there he is fighting Tagoe and Fortuna respectively in 140 lbs.
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The way I see it, that is Garcia's personality, I mean if he could just emulate Oscar when he was young, no trash talking but just wanting to fight the best. But Oscar protege is different, Garcia want's to get all the attention even not related to boxing. But hopefully him and Haney could go fight at 140 pounds in the future.

Everyone has a different personality, that's him, he is showing his real color, he is like Mayweather who loves to get the attention of the people, who knows that's helping him to gain confidence in the fight and probably make more money. We cannot judge though, he is still undefeated til now, so he deserved huge respect as a boxer.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight Huh?

Yeah, love that social media belt monicker because it is true, he calls out someone but then it's all in the media and the fight is not made.

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.

The way I see it, that is Garcia's personality, I mean if he could just emulate Oscar when he was young, no trash talking but just wanting to fight the best. But Oscar protege is different, Garcia want's to get all the attention even not related to boxing. But hopefully him and Haney could go fight at 140 pounds in the future.
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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

I'm kind of curious though like who will Haney face next after this rematch because frankly, his chances to win again this rematch is much higher compared to Kambosos.
Just lately, it is official that Lomachenko is back to boxing. Before that, Arum already told Haney that he will get a Lomachenko fight so it should happen early next year. Haney mentioned last year that they might move up to 140. And Top Rank has the most number of popular fighters at 140 which is PPV worthy for Haney like its former undisputed champion Josh Taylor, ex-champion Jose Ramirez, Chon Zepeda, newcomer Teofimo Lopez, and Arnold Barboza. And if Haney prefers to stay at lightweight a little longer then he can defend his belts against the super-featherweight unified champion, Shakur Stevenson in a megafight.

Haney has a lot of options indeed, I would like to see him against Loma, but also other 135 lbs Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis because it is going to be an intriguing matchup.

Not sure if his style will be suited up for 140 lbs, yes he can go up in weight, but it could be very difficult for him to match against any of those champions. He was almost exposed in the Linares right. If not for Jorge gassing out and his old age, he could probably won that fight.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  Grin
At least Haney does not run a lot like Rigo, LOL.. Anyway, we cannot change the style of Haney, he is very effective with his style that's why he will continue to stick with that, and as long as he fights popular boxers and beat them, he should get a big fight that will make him earn big payday.

Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.

I'm kind of curious though like who will Haney face next after this rematch because frankly, his chances to win again this rematch is much higher compared to Kambosos.

Haney's camp knows that, it is their advantage against their opponent so why change it up, better to enhance and add some counters in case aggressive attacks comes up from the other side he needs to make sure that aside from protecting himself he is also willing to gamble with solid combinations. Though for sure we will see more surprises from these two fighters, both are aiming to win and bring more hypes to their respective careers.

Let's talk about the next fight when he concludes this rematch and not to allow Kambosos to regain his title.
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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

I'm kind of curious though like who will Haney face next after this rematch because frankly, his chances to win again this rematch is much higher compared to Kambosos.
Just lately, it is official that Lomachenko is back to boxing. Before that, Arum already told Haney that he will get a Lomachenko fight so it should happen early next year. Haney mentioned last year that they might move up to 140. And Top Rank has the most number of popular fighters at 140 which is PPV worthy for Haney like its former undisputed champion Josh Taylor, ex-champion Jose Ramirez, Chon Zepeda, newcomer Teofimo Lopez, and Arnold Barboza. And if Haney prefers to stay at lightweight a little longer then he can defend his belts against the super-featherweight unified champion, Shakur Stevenson in a megafight.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  Grin
At least Haney does not run a lot like Rigo, LOL.. Anyway, we cannot change the style of Haney, he is very effective with his style that's why he will continue to stick with that, and as long as he fights popular boxers and beat them, he should get a big fight that will make him earn big payday.

Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.

I'm kind of curious though like who will Haney face next after this rematch because frankly, his chances to win again this rematch is much higher compared to Kambosos.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight Huh?

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.

It's not really clear why Garcia suddenly moved up in weight after he fought Campbell but recently after he fought Fortuna, Garcia said that he's more comfortable in super-lightweight division and that he won't move back in lightweight again. Anyway, I guess he will just eat what he said because he is aiming for Tank Davis and Davis a WBA holder in lightweight, so I guess that he will move back down again.

Garcia is very tall for a 135 lbs, that's why in his last 2 fights, it was in a catch weight of almost 140 lbs because his body can't take it. Just like when Lopez fought the last time at 135 lbs to defend his belt, he lost it and then he made the move.

But he also said that if the money is right specially a Tank Davis at 135 lbs will be available, then for sure he will go back down for this huge fight.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight Huh?

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.

It's not really clear why Garcia suddenly moved up in weight after he fought Campbell but recently after he fought Fortuna, Garcia said that he's more comfortable in super-lightweight division and that he won't move back in lightweight again. Anyway, I guess he will just eat what he said because he is aiming for Tank Davis and Davis a WBA holder in lightweight, so I guess that he will move back down again.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.
Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.
One last time and if he lost then maybe go up in weight and challenge Lopez again, I think that would be an exciting match, sure it will gain attention from the fans and they'll be able to sell that fight well. However, it's not certain yet, Kambosos might win the rematch and maybe trilogy will happen.

There will be no hype on Kambosos vs Lopez in 140 lbs if George will lose again to Haney. Well Kambosos can go up in weight after the Haney defeat, but this division is tougher that anyone would have tough. Champion like Josh Taylor and then we have Zepeda and Ramirez waiting and then others. So I don't think that Kambosos will have what it takes to go in this division.
It's always tough for a boxer going up in weight, however, Kambosos can always try if there's no reason for him to stay in the current division where he is not a champion anymore.

But this is Lopez fight night, and so we will give him credit for going up in weight and then pick an easy opponent to test how this division might be for him.
I hope Campa would be easy for him, odds are telling it's an easy fight but bookies are not right all the time.

That might be the case if Kambosos cannot win this coming rematch, although I can say that there is almost nothing much different this time and I know that Haney will dominate him and make him struggle just like their first encounter. I'm not saying that Kambosos doesn't stand a chance against Haney at all but I'd say that his chances is really slim.

Lopez already defeated Campa by a TKO and if Kambosos will climb division, I guess these two will meet again.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight Huh?

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
That's funny, well, I guess Haney has to move up in weight so he will be able to fight Lopez, but even if that would not happen, it's still okay because Lopez is not a champion why Haney is an undefeated champion, in a rematch against Kambosos, for sure he will have an easy win again and that maybe he will continue to troll Lopez.  Grin
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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  Grin
At least Haney does not run a lot like Rigo, LOL.. Anyway, we cannot change the style of Haney, he is very effective with his style that's why he will continue to stick with that, and as long as he fights popular boxers and beat them, he should get a big fight that will make him earn big payday.

Haney is a defensive fighter and that's why his fight is boring as well like like those runner fighters and that say "no mas" to Loma. So maybe this will be the same because of their contrasting style. Maybe Haney will try to make it a fight though, but Loma, if still in his prime and not affected by ring rust and the war in his country, can be very dominant against the best defensive fighter in 135 so this is going to be an intriguing match I believed.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  Grin
At least Haney does not run a lot like Rigo, LOL.. Anyway, we cannot change the style of Haney, he is very effective with his style that's why he will continue to stick with that, and as long as he fights popular boxers and beat them, he should get a big fight that will make him earn big payday.
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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  Grin

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.
The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.


It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.
It would be quite odd for Kambosos to not make use of the rematch clause, personally I do not remember a single instance in which a champion was defeated and they had a rematch clause available and they did not use it, it should have happened but this is so uncommon that I do not have a recollection of this happening, so even if the fight in paper does not look that exciting as most fans which watched the previous fight know how dominant Haney was, it makes sense to happen now as it is unlikely Kambosos would have gotten another chance if he did not invoked his right for a rematch.
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