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It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.

I agree with you, one of the things that Kambosos has is that he is not very fast, but Haney is, in this case hopefully and the Mayweather and Pacquiao thing will not be repeated because leaving everything based on a technical fight is usually very boring, And if Haney is going to do the same thing Mayweather did, which is to run around the ring, then the fight doesn't make sense, because everyone wants to see good punches, combinations, and explosive techniques. If this is the case, then Kambosos has to find a way to minimize Haney's strategy, it is not worth preparing as if he were going to fight any fight, this for him will be the fight that can give him victory and open doors to the best.

On the other hand, we can't remove that fact. If the training camp sees that way, maybe they will try doing that. If that's the way how to win the fight we really can't tell if they will try duplicating that idea and see if that will work, though also, both fighters need to consider why fans will watch this, they are expecting to see explosive exchanges of solid combinations.

It will be a disappointment if they will see more running and more in a defense type of fight rather than aggressiveness and trying to put one another into a knockout outcome.

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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.

One last time and if he lost then maybe go up in weight and challenge Lopez again, I think that would be an exciting match, sure it will gain attention from the fans and they'll be able to sell that fight well. However, it's not certain yet, Kambosos might win the rematch and maybe trilogy will happen.

There will be no hype on Kambosos vs Lopez in 140 lbs if George will lose again to Haney. Well Kambosos can go up in weight after the Haney defeat, but this division is tougher that anyone would have tough. Champion like Josh Taylor and then we have Zepeda and Ramirez waiting and then others. So I don't think that Kambosos will have what it takes to go in this division.

It's always tough for a boxer going up in weight, however, Kambosos can always try if there's no reason for him to stay in the current division where he is not a champion anymore.

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But this is Lopez fight night, and so we will give him credit for going up in weight and then pick an easy opponent to test how this division might be for him.

I hope Campa would be easy for him, odds are telling it's an easy fight but bookies are not right all the time.

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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.

One last time and if he lost then maybe go up in weight and challenge Lopez again, I think that would be an exciting match, sure it will gain attention from the fans and they'll be able to sell that fight well. However, it's not certain yet, Kambosos might win the rematch and maybe trilogy will happen.

There will be no hype on Kambosos vs Lopez in 140 lbs if George will lose again to Haney. Well Kambosos can go up in weight after the Haney defeat, but this division is tougher that anyone would have tough. Champion like Josh Taylor and then we have Zepeda and Ramirez waiting and then others. So I don't think that Kambosos will have what it takes to go in this division.

But this is Lopez fight night, and so we will give him credit for going up in weight and then pick an easy opponent to test how this division might be for him.

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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.

One last time and if he lost then maybe go up in weight and challenge Lopez again, I think that would be an exciting match, sure it will gain attention from the fans and they'll be able to sell that fight well. However, it's not certain yet, Kambosos might win the rematch and maybe trilogy will happen.

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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.

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It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.

I agree with you, one of the things that Kambosos has is that he is not very fast, but Haney is, in this case hopefully and the Mayweather and Pacquiao thing will not be repeated because leaving everything based on a technical fight is usually very boring, And if Haney is going to do the same thing Mayweather did, which is to run around the ring, then the fight doesn't make sense, because everyone wants to see good punches, combinations, and explosive techniques. If this is the case, then Kambosos has to find a way to minimize Haney's strategy, it is not worth preparing as if he were going to fight any fight, this for him will be the fight that can give him victory and open doors to the best.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 11, 2022, 10:15:01 PM

So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

It will be considered a fluke if George lost to Haney again, just probably one of those 'freak accident', that we can't explain, like he just had his 5 minutes of fame and after that he will be forgotten.

Haney is still the man at 135 lbs as he has all the belts. I don't think that a Ryan Garcia will happen before Devin fought Loma. It is much easier to make for Bob Arum as it is all in-house. As compare to let's say Garcia vs Haney, or Davis vs Haney. Oscar though might be the easiest to talk, but they have to go to the network wars again.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 11, 2022, 10:15:01 PM

So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

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So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

He is eligible to ask for rematch because it was written in their contract that there will be a rematch if Haney's camp or Kambosos camp will ask for it, in this case, it's Kambosos camp who ask it because it is their boy who lost in the first encounter.

It's also the same for Haney, he can also ask to have this rematch in US soil but he didn't ask for it because he is confident enough to embarrass Kambosos again in his own homeland. As for the poll, many of us here, including me who believes that Haney will still be the winner in this rematch.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

One of the obvious next plan if ever he lost this fight again, is take a rest for a while and maybe go up in weight. But then again, there are a lot of good 140 pound fighters so it will be very difficult for him.

And perhaps we can say that he is not on the level of the elite, sure he has the attitude and hard work that beats talent all day, just like how he upset Lopez. But if he fights a elite fighter with a good and disciple training regimen, it will be very touch and grinding match for him.

Moving up is a good idea like what Lopez did, but that depends on the outcome of the rematch, and though he had no chance to win in the first fight, but let's see if he made the right adjustment and try to beat Haney in a rematch. Everyone is probably thinking that the outcome of the rematch will be the same on the first fight, but since Kambosos was too eager for a rematch, let's give him another chance to prove himself.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

One of the obvious next plan if ever he lost this fight again, is take a rest for a while and maybe go up in weight. But then again, there are a lot of good 140 pound fighters so it will be very difficult for him.

And perhaps we can say that he is not on the level of the elite, sure he has the attitude and hard work that beats talent all day, just like how he upset Lopez. But if he fights a elite fighter with a good and disciple training regimen, it will be very touch and grinding match for him.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

Sure he did, it was on this article. https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2022/06/19/62ae69bb46163fa8058b4620.html

Of course Haney would not ask for a rematch as he already won, and since the contract has a rematch clause, the defeated fighter who is Kambosos can ask for a rematch anytime, and maybe this will be the last fight of Kambosos will not succeed.

There are lots of things he has to improve to have a chance of winning as Haney is really too fast for him and good technically.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 07, 2022, 12:05:18 AM

While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

*Edit- Yes, it was kamboso who triggered his rematch clause according to several news sources according to several news sources. So technically he agreed.

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While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

Yeah if Haney didn't accept the rematch, then Kambosos's fans will call Haney just a kid since he's not fulfill his promise and scared to lost all of his belts. He's just only defend his WBC belt for multiple times, not like Lomachenko which already have a belt and want to obtain more belt one by one. At least he need to finish Kambosos first, as people who want Haney fight against Lomachenko will happen, personally I don't think Lomachenko will win due to huge disadvantages or reach.

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So far there are only 4 who voted for Kambosos out of 24 that cast their votes in the survey. I am thinking what's the analysis of those 4 Kambosos voters? I voted for Haney due to his skills but I'm also happy if ever Kambosos wins because it means that the fight is not boring.

Betting odds aren't available in the bookie yet. But I am expecting Kambosos to be at a minimum of 3.0. So it may not be worth betting on Haney except for big amounts or picking a decision might also give a decent 1.30 something.

That is kind of expected in the poll here in this forum considering that we saw how the fight goes down during their first encounter, especially that we expected that Kambosos would start strong and aggressive but we saw a different fight because Haney dominated him in the fight making Kambosos have a hard time going near the latter. So I guess there will be no changes here in the rematch, though it's still premature to tell but that's my nearest speculation knowing that Haney is always much smarter.

Haney is indeed the smarter and has the boxing IQ. Although I would say that George has a big heart as he chooses Haney to be his first fight to defend his belt. But it may have backfired on him as he completely outclassed by the intelligent boxer here. For those who voted for Kambosos, he is the underdog and I reckon that the boys wanted to have a good win because of the oods on George that is why they they selected him in the poll.

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Quote from: yazher on July 29, 2022, 09:01:55 AM

Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.

While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 06, 2022, 03:13:19 AM

So far there are only 4 who voted for Kambosos out of 24 that cast their votes in the survey. I am thinking what's the analysis of those 4 Kambosos voters? I voted for Haney due to his skills but I'm also happy if ever Kambosos wins because it means that the fight is not boring.

Betting odds aren't available in the bookie yet. But I am expecting Kambosos to be at a minimum of 3.0. So it may not be worth betting on Haney except for big amounts or picking a decision might also give a decent 1.30 something.

That is kind of expected in the poll here in this forum considering that we saw how the fight goes down during their first encounter, especially that we expected that Kambosos would start strong and aggressive but we saw a different fight because Haney dominated him in the fight making Kambosos have a hard time going near the latter. So I guess there will be no changes here in the rematch, though it's still premature to tell but that's my nearest speculation knowing that Haney is always much smarter.

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Quote from: Johnyz on July 23, 2022, 08:35:22 AM

This is a perfect opportunity for Kambosos to take revenge and prove that he is still worth it. Having another fight is actually a good strategy in preparation for the real goal. Haney made a good defensive style on their previous match, maybe Kambosos already find the solution to counter this one and be more active in the ring. We will see that and Kambosos should not disappoint again this time, there's still time to prepare.

I have always thought that Kambosos needs to clear his name and will go all out for Haney, we also all know that Haney knows what Kambosos' position and reputation is at stake. I don't know if Haney can be trusted that he has already had previous experience with him, if we take into account that he can be trusted it is not a good sign, Haney seeing it from another point of view wants to maintain his leadership, at least with Kambosos, and He knows this, he knows that if he wins again, very good matches will come to him and with a lot of money involved, this is something that he must take advantage of and not get carried away by emotions.

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