Topic: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) - page 17. (Read 7240 times)
I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.
Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.
Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.
many are rooting for Haney here. but wonder what the odds will be from the bookies? both wanted to win. either they will engage inside the ring, or one of them will be too careful with their movements. but in any case, i believe this fight is worth to watch and bet also. i may go for haney here. but let's see the odds, it may be like 1.0x in favour of haney, which is not worth it if you will bet small.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
I voted for Haney to win by decision. You will not be able to see the picks of our fellow bitcointalk boxing fans then if you will not cast your vote.
Here is the current results of the voting, hehehe.
I get your point though. Kambosos know that he will not have a chance in this rematch if he will not make major adjustments. Kambosos have to risk everything including getting hit by solid counters because he needs to be the aggressor. And he should let his hands go by throwing combinations after combinations. Maybe Kambosos might pull the upset if he can throw combinations throughout the whole 12 rounds. He's got the work ethic so I'm pretty sure he's got the stamina. And as for Haney. He will continue to fight smart. Expect Haney to box and then hug and dance if Kambosos will throw many combinations per round.
Yes, it's just a matter of adjustment. He needs to be a volume puncher and shouldn't give Haney some spaces. And his team as well, they should give a fair assessment of the fight and tell it honest on George face. Unlike in the 1st fight wherein the corner seems to be lost as they see that George is winning. His trainer should tell if they are behind the scorecard as he see it so that he could advise George to let go of his hands. But I still go with Haney winning by maybe a majority decision, 1 judge may decide it a draw, and 2 on a very close score to Haney.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.
Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.
Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.
Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
I voted for Haney to win by decision. You will not be able to see the picks of our fellow bitcointalk boxing fans then if you will not cast your vote.
I get your point though. Kambosos know that he will not have a chance in this rematch if he will not make major adjustments. Kambosos have to risk everything including getting hit by solid counters because he needs to be the aggressor. And he should let his hands go by throwing combinations after combinations. Maybe Kambosos might pull the upset if he can throw combinations throughout the whole 12 rounds. He's got the work ethic so I'm pretty sure he's got the stamina. And as for Haney. He will continue to fight smart. Expect Haney to box and then hug and dance if Kambosos will throw many combinations per round.
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.
I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.
It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.
But it's not impossible if he has a great plan, then we might see a trilogy of this fight.
This is the odds on the first fight.
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Haney is the -175 favorite (risk $175 to win $100), while Kambosos is priced as the +150 underdog
sourceFor sure we will not see the same odds anymore in the rematch, but for those who believe that Kambosos will win, then the odds will be in your favor. Yes, Kambosos is not quick though, that's given, so he has to make a game plan that will suit his capacity but the main goal is to beat Haney.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.
I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.
It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.
Yes. There will be biases when it comes to judging in this fight. Every time an event is held in the country of one fighter, the judges are always going to give high points to him. Kambosos may not win by the looks of it but by points, he will win. This is if the fight ends in 12th round.
If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.
What do we have to expect from Arum? of course his interest is always for money and care for nothing more as Boxers is just part of their money bagging position and they are being paid to entertain people but Arum is responsible for the income making option.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .
Arranging fights is also going on in UFC and perhaps in One Championship although I'm not familiar with this promotion. In UFC there are also arrangements and contracts forcing fighters to lay off or sort of a mafia arrangement.
Boxing, however, is still a better option is almost like a fair fight with just both hands, unlike MMA where wrestling, BJJ, and boxing skills compete.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .
Arranging fights is also going on in UFC and perhaps in One Championship although I'm not familiar with this promotion. In UFC there are also arrangements and contracts forcing fighters to lay off or sort of a mafia arrangement.
Boxing, however, is still a better option is almost like a fair fight with just both hands, unlike MMA where wrestling, BJJ, and boxing skills compete.
Yes, I do agree that it will be the same reason and probably he will school Kambosos again that's why Haney is willing to fight him in Australia.
Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.
The fight was not even close so it is going to be very difficult for Kambosos to win against a Haney that dominated almost all the fight, the truth is that it is impossible to close the gap with such a little amount of time so Kambosos will need to go for the KO or at least injure Haney during the first rounds to have some kind of hope for a victory, if this does not happen and the judges have to decide which one out of the two wins then Haney will be the one which will be given the fight.Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.
I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.
LOL! That decision win was not an only. It was a clear case of one boxer being highly outpointed by another. Kambosos wasn't showing that he is an equal competitor. The scorecards were 116-112, 116-112, and 118-110. If we can exaggerate a little, it was a walk in the park for Haney. There's no point making a trilogy out of such an unequal match. If Haney wins both fights easily, a third fight is not only unnecessary, it is also ridiculous. Nobody would be interested with that third battle.
It is never advantageous for Kambosos to lose here. Winning in this rematch means redemption. It means money. It means Kambosos will be the undisputed champion. Not to mention that he is fighting in front of his countrymen.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.
It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.
Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.
There’s a money on a rematch and usually, every boxer will aim for a rematch just to get back the title, this is pretty normal. Haney won against Kambosos, he clearly won the match by that time and we saw his aggressiveness. It’s bad for Kambosos to find another might right before this rematch to happen, its better for hi to do more trainings and look for a good strategy, watch their previous match and you will see their how effective Haney at that time. Well, there’s plenty of time to prepare but still I see Haney here to dominate the match again. I think Haney Sr made it to the ring during the fight, though delay but he was there to guide his son but the way i see it, even if his father missed the fight the result would still be the same because of contrasting style and Haney is just too fast and too technical for a brawler like Kambosos. Many boxing writers wrote that this rematch is not too appealing because of the dominance of Haney in the first fight which i agree.
Hopefully the virtual presence of Haney Sr. will add fuel to Haney because he loses direct support in the corner during the fight, Haney will feel the difference from previous fights because he has to spend big moments alone without a father. Although many speculated that Haney would lead points in each round from dominating the previous win, but the difference in training time of 4 months for the second fight could potentially be a new opportunity for Kambosos. However, the second fight became the final determinant of the dispute between the two boxers. 
Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.
He lost the most important man in the ring corner during his time in Australia but that won't dampen his spirits, I'm sure he communicates to strategize via video call, his dad will motivate Haney to defend his undisputed title and must bring home the win.
Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.
Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.
I think Haney Sr made it to the ring during the fight, though delay but he was there to guide his son but the way i see it, even if his father missed the fight the result would still be the same because of contrasting style and Haney is just too fast and too technical for a brawler like Kambosos. Many boxing writers wrote that this rematch is not too appealing because of the dominance of Haney in the first fight which i agree.
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