Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) - page 18.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 29, 2022, 03:46:26 AM

Yes, it shows Haney's mental fortitude, I mean he is on a foreign soil not sure where he trains in the last week or at least when he arrived in Australia, and then the news of his father not with him up to the last minute.

He lost the most important man in the ring corner during his time in Australia but that won't dampen his spirits, I'm sure he communicates to strategize via video call, his dad will motivate Haney to defend his undisputed title and must bring home the win.

Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 29, 2022, 02:17:48 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 26, 2022, 01:54:24 PM

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

Yes, it shows Haney's mental fortitude, I mean he is on a foreign soil not sure where he trains in the last week or at least when he arrived in Australia, and then the news of his father not with him up to the last minute.

But he is the favorite on the first fight if I'm not mistaken. So perhaps Haney will be the same here, he will outclassed and put another show and bet Kambosos by a decision.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 29, 2022, 02:17:48 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 26, 2022, 01:54:24 PM

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

Same here, I frankly expected that Kambosos can do more than what he did on their first encounter and put my bets on his side but I think we all made the wrong impression that he could actually defeat Haney. The latter managed to defeat Kambosos comfortably in his own country and in front of his compatriots, now he wanted a rematch? Honestly, this will be more like a replay and we will be seeing the same outcome and performance.

Haney agreed that the fight will happen again somewhere in Australia (place and time not established yet) and that is because he is now more comfortable and confident that he can still defeat Kambosos. Might be boring though but that's what Haney's style and the most important thing is that he can maintain his record without a scratch.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 26, 2022, 01:54:24 PM

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 22, 2022, 04:10:54 AM

Yes, I do agree that it will be the same reason and probably he will school Kambosos again that's why Haney is willing to fight him in Australia.

Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.

The fight was not even close so it is going to be very difficult for Kambosos to win against a Haney that dominated almost all the fight, the truth is that it is impossible to close the gap with such a little amount of time so Kambosos will need to go for the KO or at least injure Haney during the first rounds to have some kind of hope for a victory, if this does not happen and the judges have to decide which one out of the two wins then Haney will be the one which will be given the fight.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 26, 2022, 03:29:12 PM

Well, Mayweather didn't really trained Haney because the latter was trained by his father, Bill Haney, but Mayweather and Haney did some time together until now and spent workout sessions and sparring sessions together while also training Gervonta Davis on the other side.

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Haney first met Floyd Mayweather in 2020 during a virtual training session. Haney was always a fan of Mayweather and it was his long-time dream to be trained by ‘TBE’.
That said, their virtual training sessions went on for a while, but two met in person for elevating their training sessions to another level.
Right after their first in-person workout session, the pair spent considerable time with each other, with Haney taking note of Mayweather’s teachings and suggestions.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-devin-haney-and-floyd-mayweather-whats-the-relationship-between-the-undefeated-duo/

That's a weird article there mate. I'm pretty confident that the author is wrong. I heard Haney was a very promising prospect many years ago, I can still remember his record at that time was 8-0-5 and at that time the kid was already living in Vegas where Mayweather also lives. And I think I heard of him because of Mayweather and his team. Floyd used to have a lot of promising fighters in his gym, although some of them are not regular there and some are also visitors wanting to take a look at it or looking for sparring partners. I think it was in Mayweather's gym where I found a video of young Haney. And who knows Haney and Mayweather met even earlier than what I saw and read on the internet as they're both living in Vegas.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 26, 2022, 09:20:33 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2022, 09:25:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

I also noticed that the crowd wasn't excited watching this match and it could possibly mean that they don't find the match thrilling. Yes, Haney almost has the same moves as Mayweather but I don't think he trained him. I hope Haney would find another opponent because we all know that the same result could happen when he fight with Kambosos. There's no huge excitement anymore.

Yes, there's really no hype because Kambosos will just find himself again in the same position where he was defeated recently, Kambosos should've just faced another opponent before reaching Haney again because this will really be a nonsense fight where Haney will win comfortably again that's why he is so confident to fight Kambosos again in his own country.

Well, Mayweather didn't really trained Haney because the latter was trained by his father, Bill Haney, but Mayweather and Haney did some time together until now and spent workout sessions and sparring sessions together while also training Gervonta Davis on the other side.

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Haney first met Floyd Mayweather in 2020 during a virtual training session. Haney was always a fan of Mayweather and it was his long-time dream to be trained by ‘TBE’.
That said, their virtual training sessions went on for a while, but two met in person for elevating their training sessions to another level.
Right after their first in-person workout session, the pair spent considerable time with each other, with Haney taking note of Mayweather’s teachings and suggestions.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-devin-haney-and-floyd-mayweather-whats-the-relationship-between-the-undefeated-duo/

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He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2022, 09:25:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

I also noticed that the crowd wasn't excited watching this match and it could possibly mean that they don't find the match thrilling. Yes, Haney almost has the same moves as Mayweather but I don't think he trained him. I hope Haney would find another opponent because we all know that the same result could happen when he fight with Kambosos. There's no huge excitement anymore.

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In the upcoming fight, Kambosos will have to take risks and try to overcome Haney's defense since he loses at a distance, actually the last fight shows this. How it will be possible to implement this is now the main task of the Kambosos team, otherwise the fight will turn out to be even more convincing on the side of Haney.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on July 26, 2022, 06:43:20 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

I wonder how Kambosos is going to win the rematch? Haney keeps his distance very well and just hits singles from a distance. Yes, due to such mathematical prudence, if I may say so, the fight looked boring, but if such a strategy works for Haney, then I am sure that he will continue to use it. The rematch I see is about the same, with Haney winning by decision. The only chance for Kambosos is to try to use his advantage in speed, I hope he will do it.

It's going to be very hard so see how Kambosos can overcome Haney's defensive skills. I mean he has perfected it to core, has a high guard, philly shell and then can shoot anytime he wants. The good thing is that he doesn't have that power to knock out, if he has that power, then Haney is very dangerous fighter.

Perhaps the best strategy is really swarm Haney in the beginning and make him not comfortable and have the distance. So he needs to be very aggressive in the beginning and see how Haney will take it.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

I wonder how Kambosos is going to win the rematch? Haney keeps his distance very well and just hits singles from a distance. Yes, due to such mathematical prudence, if I may say so, the fight looked boring, but if such a strategy works for Haney, then I am sure that he will continue to use it. The rematch I see is about the same, with Haney winning by decision. The only chance for Kambosos is to try to use his advantage in speed, I hope he will do it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 26, 2022, 06:19:51 AM

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To make sure of that however, if I were Arum I would really get more cut if non of them gets KOed in this rematch. Because it seem like these two are just playing the fans like they need another 3rd fight.

Well, it's Kambosos who's holding the aces though because of his rematch clause. So there is nothing Bob Arum can do. If Arum cannot guarantee good money on Kambosos, then the latter can simply reject it and then freeze Haney's career where Top Rank already invested. As for Haney, he will not care about entertaining the fans and will only focus on winning either boring or not because he knew that he is fighting in Kambosos' backyard with the possibility of getting cheated. Kambosos is the one that needs to step up here if he wants those belts back. Besides, Top Rank has a lot of popular fighters it can match on boring Haney for marketing purposes like Shakur Stevenson, Vasyl Lomachenko, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, and Teofimo Lopez.

They cannot cheat Haney because obviously he was the one dominating the fight, and now that we are in the rematch and possibly the last fight between the two, the pressure now is on Kambosos on how to even their standing. I'm excited to see what Kambosos would do now that he rush for this rematch.

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Quote from: cabron on July 24, 2022, 04:31:42 AM

To make sure of that however, if I were Arum I would really get more cut if non of them gets KOed in this rematch. Because it seem like these two are just playing the fans like they need another 3rd fight.

Well, it's Kambosos who's holding the aces though because of his rematch clause. So there is nothing Bob Arum can do. If Arum cannot guarantee good money on Kambosos, then the latter can simply reject it and then freeze Haney's career where Top Rank already invested. As for Haney, he will not care about entertaining the fans and will only focus on winning either boring or not because he knew that he is fighting in Kambosos' backyard with the possibility of getting cheated. Kambosos is the one that needs to step up here if he wants those belts back. Besides, Top Rank has a lot of popular fighters it can match on boring Haney for marketing purposes like Shakur Stevenson, Vasyl Lomachenko, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, and Teofimo Lopez.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on July 24, 2022, 04:09:38 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on July 22, 2022, 01:08:20 AM

So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney.

That's because Kambosos believe that he can come up with a better plan this time I am a follower of his page and he is very determine to get back his lost title

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George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

It's his privilege and right because it's in the contract as long as it will gain support on PPV and gate, Bob Arum is right he should something first before he asks for a rematch

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I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.

The stats and the scoresheet will not lie Kambosos should stop talking and do what he needs to do, this is a risky fight for him a second loss will relegate him to level B fighter and it's going to be a hard climb going to the top again, I don't expect much on this fight it will likely start where it ended, Haney waiting for him to come or Haney using the stiff jabs to prepare the right straight.

Still this is a good fight to watch until there is no one going to get KOed. Each of them still expect something different that will happen than having another decision win as neither of them will expect that.

To make sure of that however, if I were Arum I would really get more cut if non of them gets KOed in this rematch. Because it seem like these two are just playing the fans like they need another 3rd fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 22, 2022, 01:08:20 AM

So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney.

That's because Kambosos believe that he can come up with a better plan this time I am a follower of his page and he is very determine to get back his lost title

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George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

It's his privilege and right because it's in the contract as long as it will gain support on PPV and gate, Bob Arum is right he should fight another fighter first before he asks for a rematch

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I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.

The stats and the scoresheet will not lie Kambosos should stop talking and do what he needs to do, this is a risky fight for him a second loss will relegate him to level B fighter and it's going to be a hard climb going to the top again, I don't expect much on this fight it will likely start where it ended, Haney waiting for him to come or Haney using the stiff jabs to prepare the right straight.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 24, 2022, 12:06:17 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 23, 2022, 08:53:17 AM

Kambosos wants to focus, if he will fight another boxer, he has to study the style of that certain boxer, so it's better if he will just fight Haney as he is already familiar with his style, it's still fresh on him and that motivation is on him trying to bounce back after a very embarrassing loss.

If Kambosos is winning this fight, I think we can call lightweight division is full of manipulation and roller coaster since there's many boxer which only fought for single match can take 3-4 belts from his opponents lol.

The first is Lopez, the second is Kambosos, now the third is Haney. I'm not sure how many fights needed for Haney to prove if he's deserve to become undisputed champion, but I hope he will fight against both Lomachenko and Tank.

For Haney to be called undisputed, he needs to clean up the division as you have said, beat Kambosos again, then Tank and then Loma which for me is still the best in this division despite the lack of fight because of what is going on in his native land.

So if he can do that, then no doubt he can surpassed Loma and then defend the belt for those upcoming fighters. And as others have speculated, this is another win for him as the fight will be the same as the first one.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 24, 2022, 12:06:17 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 23, 2022, 08:53:17 AM

Kambosos wants to focus, if he will fight another boxer, he has to study the style of that certain boxer, so it's better if he will just fight Haney as he is already familiar with his style, it's still fresh on him and that motivation is on him trying to bounce back after a very embarrassing loss.

If Kambosos is winning this fight, I think we can call lightweight division is full of manipulation and roller coaster since there's many boxer which only fought for single match can take 3-4 belts from his opponents lol.

The first is Lopez, the second is Kambosos, now the third is Haney. I'm not sure how many fights needed for Haney to prove if he's deserve to become undisputed champion,

I believe he is already an undisputed champion, the only reason why the rematch happened is because of a rematch clause that are in the contract, so it's more like a legal obligation for Haney to do it.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 24, 2022, 12:06:17 AM

but I hope he will fight against both Lomachenko and Tank.

That time will probably come, who knows.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 23, 2022, 08:53:17 AM

Kambosos wants to focus, if he will fight another boxer, he has to study the style of that certain boxer, so it's better if he will just fight Haney as he is already familiar with his style, it's still fresh on him and that motivation is on him trying to bounce back after a very embarrassing loss.

If Kambosos is winning this fight, I think we can call lightweight division is full of manipulation and roller coaster since there's many boxer which only fought for single match can take 3-4 belts from his opponents lol.

The first is Lopez, the second is Kambosos, now the third is Haney. I'm not sure how many fights needed for Haney to prove if he's deserve to become undisputed champion, but I hope he will fight against both Lomachenko and Tank.

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Honestly, I like Kambosos' determination and character its admirable, he sacrificed a lot in honor of his country Australia, but Haney is one boxer that is technically superior in his skills, he likes to dominate the fight not very aggressive he has science behind all his moves, he is the next Mayweather, can hit and not get hit knows how to adapt change gear on every opponent he fought, I just don't know what kind of adjustment Kambosos will do even though he promised to show a different Kambosos.
So far the majority are in Haney's favor because obviously, he is the superior fighter.

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