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Quote from: Kemarit on July 22, 2022, 09:43:07 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2022, 09:25:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

No, as far as I know, Mayweather doesn't train Haney, he has Tank Davis though under his wing. But for sure Haney pattern everything from Floyd, from his stance and defense. But we all know that there is only one Floyd. And yeah, could be another snoozer of a fight and then Haney winning in front of thousands of Australians again booing him.

That is what I also thought but I just recently found out that Mayweather Jr. is also training Devin Haney even if he's not under his promotional banner, but yes, Tank Davis is the one that is Mayweather's legitimate lightweight fighter and the one under his promotional banner.

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. of Mayweather Promotions says his reasons for training Devin Haney, a fighter NOT signed to his company, is because he’s a young kid that “asked for my advice.”
According to Mayweather, it’s no big deal that he’s training Haney because he’s moving up to 140 after one more fight, and Tank Davis fights at 130. Tank fights at 135, NOT 130, as Mayweather says, and he’s currently in the same division as Devin Haney.

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But I think that Haney's style has been like that even before Mayweather is training him, and it's no secret that Haney is really copying Mayweather's moves because the latter is also good in terms of defense and counter punches.

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Quote from: Johnyz on July 23, 2022, 08:35:22 AM

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

He wants to avenge his losses immediately, he cannot wait so let's see if he had already figured out how to win. It's hard to beat Haney due to his defensive technique, he is like Mayweather but if Kambosos really found the formula, it should not be a problem winning the fight. Hopefully we will not get bored again regardless of the outcome.

This is a perfect opportunity for Kambosos to take revenge and prove that he is still worth it. Having another fight is actually a good strategy in preparation for the real goal. Haney made a good defensive style on their previous match, maybe Kambosos already find the solution to counter this one and be more active in the ring. We will see that and Kambosos should not disappoint again this time, there's still time to prepare.

Kambosos wants to focus, if he will fight another boxer, he has to study the style of that certain boxer, so it's better if he will just fight Haney as he is already familiar with his style, it's still fresh on him and that motivation is on him trying to bounce back after a very embarrassing loss.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 23, 2022, 08:25:41 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

He wants to avenge his losses immediately, he cannot wait so let's see if he had already figured out how to win. It's hard to beat Haney due to his defensive technique, he is like Mayweather but if Kambosos really found the formula, it should not be a problem winning the fight. Hopefully we will not get bored again regardless of the outcome.

This is a perfect opportunity for Kambosos to take revenge and prove that he is still worth it. Having another fight is actually a good strategy in preparation for the real goal. Haney made a good defensive style on their previous match, maybe Kambosos already find the solution to counter this one and be more active in the ring. We will see that and Kambosos should not disappoint again this time, there's still time to prepare.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 23, 2022, 08:25:41 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

He wants to avenge his losses immediately, he cannot wait so let's see if he had already figured out how to win. It's hard to beat Haney due to his defensive technique, he is like Mayweather but if Kambosos really found the formula, it should not be a problem winning the fight. Hopefully we will not get bored again regardless of the outcome.

Yeah, probably this is one of the reason why he chooses to go on a revenge match against Haney. His pride and ego take the best of him so he immediately jump on the gun, and activated the rematch clause. Arum could only advise Kambosos, the decision is still with George and for him this is the right decision. So I'm expecting another trash talk in the press conference. Not sure how George will response since he lost the first fight already as he also has a loud and big mouth.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 22, 2022, 10:13:11 PM

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

He wants to avenge his losses immediately, he cannot wait so let's see if he had already figured out how to win. It's hard to beat Haney due to his defensive technique, he is like Mayweather but if Kambosos really found the formula, it should not be a problem winning the fight. Hopefully we will not get bored again regardless of the outcome.

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I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2022, 09:25:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

Its pretty boring that its sort of luck that judge give him got more points end the end. If nothing changes it will be boring as well. 50/50 for me.
But because this is going to happen in Australia. Haney will have to do more than just avoid getting hit and keeping distance. Its either Kamboso will KO him or Haney wins by points again.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2022, 09:25:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

No, as far as I know, Mayweather doesn't train Haney, he has Tank Davis though under his wing. But for sure Haney pattern everything from Floyd, from his stance and defense. But we all know that there is only one Floyd. And yeah, could be another snoozer of a fight and then Haney winning in front of thousands of Australians again booing him.

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If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it Cheesy

). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 22, 2022, 04:29:05 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on July 22, 2022, 10:27:36 AM

Then again, as pointed out by YOSHIE above me, this particular match may not push through depending on Haney's decision. He's up for the big guns, and Kambosos may not fit the description for what Haney has been looking for these past few months.

I think this fight will push because of the rematch clause, it's not Haney's decision, it is Kambosos decision that triggered this rematch. As per report, there were no negotiations this time around as it is stipulated in the contract of the first fight. The only thing that they have to do right now is to finalize the date and venue of the fight.

Yes, they will just have to make an official announcement, but according to reliable sources, most likely the fight will happen in October and the same venue, Kambosos hometown of Australia.

So probably 2/3 matches, it will be the same results as what the majority is saying. Haney is too good for Kambosos. Devin might not be as entertaining as Ryan Garcia, but he sure do his job in the ring very effectively.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 22, 2022, 10:27:36 AM

Then again, as pointed out by YOSHIE above me, this particular match may not push through depending on Haney's decision. He's up for the big guns, and Kambosos may not fit the description for what Haney has been looking for these past few months.

I think this fight will push because of the rematch clause, it's not Haney's decision, it is Kambosos decision that triggered this rematch. As per report, there were no negotiations this time around as it is stipulated in the contract of the first fight. The only thing that they have to do right now is to finalize the date and venue of the fight.

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Quote from: Questat on July 22, 2022, 09:32:19 AM

I understand that there's a rematch clause, however, I think this fight will only make Kambasos look worst because in the first fight, it was like a walk in the park for Haney. Well, I'm not underestimating Kambasos, but Haney is just too strong and too quick for him. If Kambasos will try to be more aggressive, I think this will happen "Devin Haney KO/TKO".

If Kambosos will not prepare well for this match, he could possibly face another defeat. He should learn how to counter Haney's strategy and should be more aggressive this time because, to be honest, Haney could easily get wild in the ring. Kambosos must find ways to know the weaknesses of Haney only if he wants to win this rematch. It will be too challenging for Kambosos to face Haney again.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 22, 2022, 09:13:31 AM

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On the first fight, it clearly shows how clueless Kambosos is on what Haney is trying to do,....

I think Haney has not changed his style, and I'm pretty sure that the team of Kambosos had already studied the fights of Haney before their big fight and yet they had not still prepared for it. There's a big difference because Haney had the quickness and Kambosos could not match that, if only the first fight was a split decision, then I might believe that Kambosos will bounce back.

Sometimes, slow fighters can overcome quick punchers. It just takes that one opening and you win the fight. I'm still not sure about Kambosos' ability to do just that, but I think he's a very capable fighter that can do these feats as long as he trained for it.

Then again, as pointed out by YOSHIE above me, this particular match may not push through depending on Haney's decision. He's up for the big guns, and Kambosos may not fit the description for what Haney has been looking for these past few months.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 22, 2022, 01:08:20 AM

So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney. George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

We cannot blame Kambosos he is a fighter and he was not knocked out in their last fight he believes that he can improve and manage to get a win against Haney in their rematch, if there's a chance to win a title again and make money at the same time, why not make a go for it.

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I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again.

The boxing community shares the same opinion, Haney is an intelligent boxer once he sizes you up anything you do will backfire to you but we cannot take anything away from Kambosos he is a former champion and there's a rematch clause

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But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.

Australia will always support their boxers so it will be sold out but if the fight is going to happen elsewhere I don't think they will have success in selling this fight and gate sales will suffer, it's hard to sell a fight that is dominated by another fighter.

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I've read about Haney vs George yesterday, there are some points that I can take for the rematch between Haney and Kambosos.

This match is still pros and cons between Haney and George.
1. Haney, still looking for a big fight, Haney's targets are: Lomachenko, ex-tennis.
2. provisional results based on the analysis of boxing journalist Dan Rafael, not related parties.
3. Kambosos' willingness to bet with Haney.

The bottom line: as said by: Haney below.

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said Haney. “Possibly, possibly not. We just gotta see what makes the most sense for me and my team. October, I will be fighting but we don’t know who yet.”

If, this topic for a poll, of course I will vote.

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A. Devin Haney Decision.

I think this boxing match can continue or can be canceled, depending on the decision of Haney.

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I understand that there's a rematch clause, however, I think this fight will only make Kambasos look worst because in the first fight, it was like a walk in the park for Haney. Well, I'm not underestimating Kambasos, but Haney is just too strong and too quick for him. If Kambasos will try to be more aggressive, I think this will happen "Devin Haney KO/TKO".

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 22, 2022, 09:06:28 AM

On the first fight, it clearly shows how clueless Kambosos is on what Haney is trying to do,....

I think Haney has not changed his style, and I'm pretty sure that the team of Kambosos had already studied the fights of Haney before their big fight and yet they had not still prepared for it. There's a big difference because Haney had the quickness and Kambosos could not match that, if only the first fight was a split decision, then I might believe that Kambosos will bounce back.

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I go for a Kambosos decision in here.

Perhaps many are acknowledging Devin Haney's style against Kambosos' aggressive behavior on the ring, but pretty sure Kambosos and his team already studied Haney's moves and have prepared well enough for this rematch before calling it final. On the first fight, it clearly shows how clueless Kambosos is on what Haney is trying to do, but if you are a trained professional fighter, you will study those moves which led to your loss and use it against your opponent in your next rematch. I do believe that George can pull of a decision win here, but he needs to make sure that he keeps his eye out on those deadly pokes that Haney lets out every so often.

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It happen earlier than expected, well, I think this is not fun to watch unless Kambosos has something that will surprise Haney and will upset the champion. The first fight was obviously a one-sided fight, Haney schooled Kambosos and own via unanimous decision, so let's see what would be the outcome of the rematch.

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My vote is "Devin Haney Decision". I think everyone is voting on that outcome and there's no doubt that would happen. Kambasos has the power, but as long as Haney will not allow getting hit, then most likely the outcome will be the same as the previous match.

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