[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 17.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 23, 2021, 07:29:21 PM

As @bisdak40 have said, Inoue is the A-side, whatever Casimero trash talk, it will be like 70/30 purse. But probably this fight might take place early next year, that is it Bob Arum is willing.

So what happened to the statement of Inoue that he wants to schedule the fight this year?

Arum has to give his boxer a chance to fight the best fighters, otherwise, he can only build a legacy in regard but not on the quality of fights.
I know we all know how the career of Manny ended with Bob Arum, he had a good start, so hopefully, he would do the same with Inoue.

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The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match.

He would, that was the latest news now.

Naoya Inoue Wants Casimero This Year, ‘I Want To Beat Him To The Ground’

That news hopefully will come into reality, if there's indeed a fight this year then we can expect a contract to be sign soon as its necessary that it will sign the soonest so both fighters will start their respective training in preparation for a big fight this year.

Quote from: Viscore on August 23, 2021, 03:22:51 PM

I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

That's up to the promoters as they will be the one who would invest in this fight.

Sometimes promoters are the reasons why a certain bout is getting delayed even if their fans are clamoring for it.
With the taunting that Casimero is doing, seems that he really got the interest of Inoue to fight him inside the ring.
If the promoters will see the noise of this match, they can easily forge a deal and make it happen.
We still have 4 months to go before ending this year, so this is really possible to happen.
If Casimero will lose this fight, maybe, his trash talking will slow down. So it is interesting to see this fight.

Yes, still boils down to the promoters and how much money they are going to make. If that is not viable, then Top Rank will stir Inoue to other fighters until the interest builds again creating more hype.

As @bisdak40 have said, Inoue is the A-side, whatever Casimero trash talk, it will be like 70/30 purse. But probably this fight might take place early next year, that is it Bob Arum is willing.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on August 23, 2021, 04:59:48 PM

If Casimero will lose this fight, maybe, his trash talking will slow down. So it is interesting to see this fight.

Depending on the outcome of the fight, if it will turn out a controversial fight that will have to go to the scorecard, maybe Casimero will continue with his trash-talking so he will get a rematch. However, Inoue does not want to go to the scorecard, as per his statement, he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground, so that's very interesting to see.

Casimero got into Inoue's skin and his trash-talking strategy is half-successful as of the moment because the latter really wanted to punish Casimero for his trash-talk against him but he must also be careful to not let his emotion got him.

Clearly, Inoue is the A-side if this fight pushes through but that would be offset if he will be fighting Casimero with emotion above talent and mind.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on August 23, 2021, 04:59:48 PM

If Casimero will lose this fight, maybe, his trash talking will slow down. So it is interesting to see this fight.

Depending on the outcome of the fight, if it will turn out a controversial fight that will have to go to the scorecard, maybe Casimero will continue with his trash-talking so he will get a rematch. However, Inoue does not want to go to the scorecard, as per his statement, he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground, so that's very interesting to see.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 23, 2021, 04:54:19 PM

Quote from: Viscore on August 23, 2021, 03:22:51 PM

Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 01:04:50 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 20, 2021, 12:31:50 PM

The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match.

He would, that was the latest news now.

Naoya Inoue Wants Casimero This Year, ‘I Want To Beat Him To The Ground’

That news hopefully will come into reality, if there's indeed a fight this year then we can expect a contract to be sign soon as its necessary that it will sign the soonest so both fighters will start their respective training in preparation for a big fight this year.

Quote from: Viscore on August 23, 2021, 03:22:51 PM

I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

That's up to the promoters as they will be the one who would invest in this fight.

Sometimes promoters are the reasons why a certain bout is getting delayed even if their fans are clamoring for it.
With the taunting that Casimero is doing, seems that he really got the interest of Inoue to fight him inside the ring.
If the promoters will see the noise of this match, they can easily forge a deal and make it happen.
We still have 4 months to go before ending this year, so this is really possible to happen.
If Casimero will lose this fight, maybe, his trash talking will slow down. So it is interesting to see this fight.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 23, 2021, 03:22:51 PM

Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 01:04:50 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 20, 2021, 12:31:50 PM

The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match.

He would, that was the latest news now.

Naoya Inoue Wants Casimero This Year, ‘I Want To Beat Him To The Ground’

That news hopefully will come into reality, if there's indeed a fight this year then we can expect a contract to be sign soon as its necessary that it will sign the soonest so both fighters will start their respective training in preparation for a big fight this year.

Quote from: Viscore on August 23, 2021, 03:22:51 PM

I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

That's up to the promoters as they will be the one who would invest in this fight.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 01:04:50 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 20, 2021, 12:31:50 PM

The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match. I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

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Quote from: Jating on August 20, 2021, 12:31:50 PM

The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

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Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

I think being a trashralker is Casimero's trying to build as a trademark just like other foreign boxers. He's trying to build a different personality that is different from other boxers from the Philippines. However, we shouldn't underestimate Inoue because as we've seen in his previous fights, he's a giant in the ring.

But it's very unusual for a Filipino to be a trash talker because English is not our first language, hehehe. Filipinos are known to not talk that much but show their skills inside the boxing ring. Yes, he can be brandish because he have the power punch and can knock out anyone in his division, even Inoue and Donaire.

Maybe Casimero is following Conor's trash talking his way to the top. Grin

On this industry then trash talks are just adding up some spice to make it more interesting and getting the fight into that kind of hype and since this is considered a business then they would really need for the fight
to sell that well.
Its just a personal point of view or impression since there are people whom do really love trashtalking but there are people who doesnt just mind off and just simply eager to look on whats the fight outcome.

Filipino fighters or boxers are really capable off and lets see if he could really handle up Inoue.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 21, 2021, 05:56:49 PM

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

I think being a trashralker is Casimero's trying to build as a trademark just like other foreign boxers. He's trying to build a different personality that is different from other boxers from the Philippines. However, we shouldn't underestimate Inoue because as we've seen in his previous fights, he's a giant in the ring.

But it's very unusual for a Filipino to be a trash talker because English is not our first language, hehehe. Filipinos are known to not talk that much but show their skills inside the boxing ring. Yes, he can be brandish because he have the power punch and can knock out anyone in his division, even Inoue and Donaire.

Maybe Casimero is following Conor's trash talking his way to the top. Grin

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 22, 2021, 08:52:30 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on August 21, 2021, 06:09:14 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 21, 2021, 05:56:49 PM

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

I think being a trashralker is Casimero's trying to build as a trademark just like other foreign boxers. He's trying to build a different personality that is different from other boxers from the Philippines. However, we shouldn't underestimate Inoue because as we've seen in his previous fights, he's a giant in the ring.

As you said, he is just trying to make a trademark as a trash talker and whatever comes in his mouth may not reflect his personal life and we can also expect that he does not underestimate Inoue, if given a chance, he will certainly trade harder as he know if he wins, he will be in the top.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 21, 2021, 05:56:49 PM

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

I think being a trashralker is Casimero's trying to build as a trademark just like other foreign boxers. He's trying to build a different personality that is different from other boxers from the Philippines. However, we shouldn't underestimate Inoue because as we've seen in his previous fights, he's a giant in the ring.

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Although there are few participants on the poll I'm surprised that many supports Casimero than Inoue, Casimero is very brazen and arrogant while Inoue has the making of legendary boxer, very strong, fast accurate I don't know why Casimero is getting a lot of supports compared to Inoue, it's still unclear if these fighters will meet this year, we still have to read the official announcement and signing of the contract, if there is none then it's all speculation.

What can you expect about the Poll as there are many Filipino Poster here less are japanese so they will vote for their countrymen Cheesy

Obvious that Inoue is stronger and more confident than casimero.

and if the fight will happen soon , surely it is Inoue will win , sorry for the belief but the way i observe their skills and capacity ? it is Inoue that is in advantageous here.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 22, 2021, 07:14:18 AM

But I guess Donaire can still be a house hold name Top Rank could easily negotiate a fight with Donaire since there's no barrier. I mean Donaire has his wife as manager, so I guess what makes her happy specially about the purse, she can put Nonito's signature right away. As opposed to Casimero who have a lot of people behind and it could make the negotiation more difficult.

Donaire came into the picture after he won a title but when it comes to which will be a better fight it will be the Casimero - Inoue fight, remember Inoue fully dominated Donaire, fans would like to see what Casimero and Inoue will bring to the table when they clash, there's excitement between two fighters who love to get into the ring when they clash.

It will definitely one of the best fights in the sports of boxing, both are monster, at least Casimero claimed that he is the rea monster, or just saying like he is the real champion, so Inoue has to beat him so people will be convince that he is the beast in the division, and no other.

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It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

I would certainly be a good fight for the real boxing fans, however, the money comes from the casual fans who might be biased on liking to watch Inoue vs. Donaire more than Inoue vs. Casimero. Bob Arum might also consider that Casimero is more dangerous for his pet Inoue hehehe. Inoue vs. Donaire is also a rematch which might make the fight better to promote for Arum.

I don't think that a Casimero match will be dangerous for Arum per se. But I guess Donaire can still be a house hold name Top Rank could easily negotiate a fight with Donaire since there's no barrier. I mean Donaire has his wife as manager, so I guess what makes her happy specially about the purse, she can put Nonito's signature right away. As opposed to Casimero who have a lot of people behind and it could make the negotiation more difficult.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 22, 2021, 02:57:25 AM

I would certainly be a good fight for the real boxing fans, however, the money comes from the casual fans who might be biased on liking to watch Inoue vs. Donaire more than Inoue vs. Casimero. Bob Arum might also consider that Casimero is more dangerous for his pet Inoue hehehe. Inoue vs. Donaire is also a rematch which might make the fight better to promote for Arum.

Promoters should not deprive the boxing world of exciting matches, they are made for each other and they really want each other, since Inoue is the one requesting the fight Arum should work for it, he is also going to make money here and he will continue to make money whether Inoue wins or lose the fight, this is a fight that should happen.

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It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

I would certainly be a good fight for the real boxing fans, however, the money comes from the casual fans who might be biased on liking to watch Inoue vs. Donaire more than Inoue vs. Casimero. Bob Arum might also consider that Casimero is more dangerous for his pet Inoue hehehe. Inoue vs. Donaire is also a rematch which might make the fight better to promote for Arum.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 21, 2021, 06:09:14 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 21, 2021, 05:56:49 PM

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

Now, it seems to be the next fight that we will be looking forward to. If Pacquiao will retire after this Ugas fight, we need to see another Filipino boxer who will follow the journey of Pacquiao. A real aggressive boxer and not a boring one. If Casimero can prove that he has the power to beat these champions, why not? But his trash talking should mellow down.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 21, 2021, 09:01:28 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2021, 01:16:20 AM

It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Yes, "style makes fight", and they have contrasting style so it's a boring fight for us who are used of seeing both boxers putting a show for the fans.

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 21, 2021, 09:01:28 AM

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

Indeed, he will not stop taunting, but pretty sure that Bob Arum will protect his cash cow. Or at least wait for more hype to build in this lower division. So that he can make more money out of Inoue vs Casimero in the future.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 21, 2021, 05:56:49 PM

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

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