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Quote from: Chato1977 on August 28, 2021, 06:19:22 AM

Then that must be impossible to happen because these 2 boxers has their own attitude in treating their upcoming fights.

Casimero is often in talking , while Inoue wasn't even saying a word.

Whatever they do outside the ring everything will be settled in the ring, I like Inoue's attitude than Donaire, for him, it's a sport he doesn't take things personally and he has huge respect for his opponent, this is a hurting business you can paralyze yourself or your opponent it's better not to take things personally and show your respect to your opponents, one-day Casimero will learn a hard lesson after he gets knocked out, hopefully, it will be Inoue who will knock him out.

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From what I've read somewhere in social media, he wanted the fight to happen this coming December. Big possibilities that both him and Arum are really penetrating to know how the fans will react, then decide if they've seen more money for this upcoming fight before sitting down and process the contract.

Casimero needs to work on more trashtalks to market the fight then. And Inoue should do the same lol.

Then that must be impossible to happen because these 2 boxers has their own attitude in treating their upcoming fights.

Casimero is often in talking , while Inoue wasn't even saying a word.

Inoue does not have to talk much, his last statement is more than enough to expect that the fight between him and Casimero will happen. If you did not read his statement, here's the news about it.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/naoya-inoue-wants-casimero-this-year-i-want-to-beat-him-to-the-ground/

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With the way Inoue is talking, he wants to fight Casimero next rather than rematch Donaire. If that fight happens, Inoue will need to make sure he scores a knockout just in case we get the scoring we saw for the Casimero vs. Rigondeaux fight.

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From what I've read somewhere in social media, he wanted the fight to happen this coming December. Big possibilities that both him and Arum are really penetrating to know how the fans will react, then decide if they've seen more money for this upcoming fight before sitting down and process the contract.

Casimero needs to work on more trashtalks to market the fight then. And Inoue should do the same lol.

Then that must be impossible to happen because these 2 boxers has their own attitude in treating their upcoming fights.

Casimero is often in talking , while Inoue wasn't even saying a word.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2021, 05:26:48 PM

From what I've read somewhere in social media, he wanted the fight to happen this coming December. Big possibilities that both him and Arum are really penetrating to know how the fans will react, then decide if they've seen more money for this upcoming fight before sitting down and process the contract.

Casimero needs to work on more trashtalks to market the fight then. And Inoue should do the same lol.

I'm also looking at that possibility that's why no rush. Organizers can't just arrange a match, especially at the times like this where they don't want to risk spending money with no assurance of a big return if no hype from the community. Honestly, the hype isn't enough too and they really need to see that massive boxing fans from all around the world, not just in PH or Japan, are looking forward to fight.

But regardless, it has a high chance next year and not this year so people should not expect it. If it happened this year, then good but if not, no issues.

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The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match. I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

And I wholeheartedly agree with this, instead of fighting someone that no one knows to try to begin to make your name known, what can be better than to fight one of the contenders of your division and win? That will immediately make your name known and the fans will love it, so I think fighting Casimero is the best move not only in the short term but also on the long term as fans love boxers that do not avoid other fighters just because they are good as well.

Here's the ranking as https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings.
Champions do not need to fight their challenger if there's a chance that both champions will fight for unification.

As you can see, most of the champions are Filipinos, so Inoue just has to choose one of them but hopefully, he'll choose the one that he has not beaten before.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2021, 05:26:48 PM

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It's only official in the social media account of Inoue that he wants to arrange the match, however, it's not his job to arrange the fight, so he still needs to wait for the final approval that is coming from Bob Arum his promoter.

He wants this year, but I doubt it will happen, hopefully I'm wrong though.

From what I've read somewhere in social media, he wanted the fight to happen this coming December. Big possibilities that both him and Arum are really penetrating to know how the fans will react, then decide if they've seen more money for this upcoming fight before sitting down and process the contract.

Without the signing of the contract, this fight remains a speculation. Though for sure many of us wanted to see if how Casimero will
prove those trash talking that he made from his social media accounts.

I'm pretty sure Arum is not concerned about the fans of the fight, I have a feeling that he is more concerned about the outcome of the fight, the "what if" because if Inoue loses the fight, it will be hard for the promoter to lose the value of his investment in the future. I mean Inoue had some great fights, he finished them impressively and Arum invested by signing him as a fighter, so he will lose his investment if Casimero will indeed become a winner of the match.

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It's only official in the social media account of Inoue that he wants to arrange the match, however, it's not his job to arrange the fight, so he still needs to wait for the final approval that is coming from Bob Arum his promoter.

He wants this year, but I doubt it will happen, hopefully I'm wrong though.

From what I've read somewhere in social media, he wanted the fight to happen this coming December. Big possibilities that both him and Arum are really penetrating to know how the fans will react, then decide if they've seen more money for this upcoming fight before sitting down and process the contract.

Without the signing of the contract, this fight remains a speculation. Though for sure many of us wanted to see if how Casimero will
prove those trash talking that he made from his social media accounts.

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The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

The problem with this is that there is no reputation builder that is stronger than to beat the best when it matters, Manny eventually became a household name not because his promoters and marketing tactics were excellent but because he was a legendary fighter, if anyone wants to reach that status then the way to do so is not by avoiding good fighter in order to increase hype but by training harder and increase their abilities as boxers even further.

if Inoue would not fight our Filipino boxer Casimero, then he better move up in weight so he could find a great match. I don't think there's a problem with the money they can potentially make in this fight, besides, Inoue is just starting to build his name in the US, so fighting the toughest challenger per paper is definitely the most interesting thing to do for him now.

And I wholeheartedly agree with this, instead of fighting someone that no one knows to try to begin to make your name known, what can be better than to fight one of the contenders of your division and win? That will immediately make your name known and the fans will love it, so I think fighting Casimero is the best move not only in the short term but also on the long term as fans love boxers that do not avoid other fighters just because they are good as well.

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So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

Correct, it's all speculation and there's no official announcement as far as the fight goes.

But it seems there could be negotiations right now, just give it some time, we might see surprises in the next coming months as who is Inoue going to face. But as the Inoue vs Casimero is gaining some grounds from the boxing fans. Maybe this will be the one that we are going to see early next year or maybe before. So lets hope that Inoue really wanted the Casimero fight and not just in social media back and forth talks.

Yup. It's just a matter of time and they'll surprise us that the fight has already been contracted and both have signed a contract that they're already going to face inside the ring with a specific date.
But as we all wait for that time, there's still a lot of spice that's being done online by Casimero to his potential foes.

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So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

It's not official yet because they have not signed a contract yet, all we can do now is just to wait that what Inoue had said will be realized.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-time-comes-ill-remind-casimero-ring-everything-he-say-about-me--158506

Let us be optimistic as this is not only between the two of them, this is the fight that every fan would see.
Casimero has thrown a lot of insults on Inoue, I think it's time that Inoue will take it seriously and that is by signing the fight contract.

Casimero is really taunting and hoping what he says would be done once they step into the ring. If I were to Inoue he should be dealing with this with him that instant or just leave what Casimero is saying, the fans are eager to see what is his decision. This will take ages because his decision is the one being waited but he's not taking the actions necessary yet, the excitement shouldn't be wasted.

That's why Casimero does not stop because Inoue does not give him a chance to fight, I mean a real chance because talking in media is cheap if he does not make action to make this fight happen in real life. Casimero told the world that he is willing to fight Inoue in any venue, so that's a big advantage on Inoue sa he can choose a venue like his country so he can let his fans watch him beat Casimero.

We know how Casimero loves it on the social media world but that's not the real fight setting to be honest, it may be his domain for some taunting and we know he talks that much but he got tremendous fighting spirit on the ring too. I don't think he's winning here to be honest, yeah I love it if he does because he's one of my fellowmen but so much with the talk we know how great Inoue too. I like them both as a fighter and we know how we anticipated this fight because we're eager to see them give us some entertainment.

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So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

It's not official yet because they have not signed a contract yet, all we can do now is just to wait that what Inoue had said will be realized.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-time-comes-ill-remind-casimero-ring-everything-he-say-about-me--158506

Let us be optimistic as this is not only between the two of them, this is the fight that every fan would see.
Casimero has thrown a lot of insults on Inoue, I think it's time that Inoue will take it seriously and that is by signing the fight contract.

Casimero is really taunting and hoping what he says would be done once they step into the ring. If I were to Inoue he should be dealing with this with him that instant or just leave what Casimero is saying, the fans are eager to see what is his decision. This will take ages because his decision is the one being waited but he's not taking the actions necessary yet, the excitement shouldn't be wasted.

That's why Casimero does not stop because Inoue does not give him a chance to fight, I mean a real chance because talking in media is cheap if he does not make action to make this fight happen in real life. Casimero told the world that he is willing to fight Inoue in any venue, so that's a big advantage on Inoue sa he can choose a venue like his country so he can let his fans watch him beat Casimero.

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Quote from: tippytoes on August 25, 2021, 06:51:35 PM

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

It's not official yet because they have not signed a contract yet, all we can do now is just to wait that what Inoue had said will be realized.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-time-comes-ill-remind-casimero-ring-everything-he-say-about-me--158506

Let us be optimistic as this is not only between the two of them, this is the fight that every fan would see.
Casimero has thrown a lot of insults on Inoue, I think it's time that Inoue will take it seriously and that is by signing the fight contract.

Casimero is really taunting and hoping what he says would be done once they step into the ring. If I were to Inoue he should be dealing with this with him that instant or just leave what Casimero is saying, the fans are eager to see what is his decision. This will take ages because his decision is the one being waited but he's not taking the actions necessary yet, the excitement shouldn't be wasted.

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So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

Correct, it's all speculation and there's no official announcement as far as the fight goes.

But it seems there could be negotiations right now, just give it some time, we might see surprises in the next coming months as who is Inoue going to face. But as the Inoue vs Casimero is gaining some grounds from the boxing fans. Maybe this will be the one that we are going to see early next year or maybe before. So lets hope that Inoue really wanted the Casimero fight and not just in social media back and forth talks.

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Quote from: tabas on August 25, 2021, 07:53:04 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on August 25, 2021, 06:51:35 PM

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

It's not official yet because they have not signed a contract yet, all we can do now is just to wait that what Inoue had said will be realized.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-time-comes-ill-remind-casimero-ring-everything-he-say-about-me--158506

Let us be optimistic as this is not only between the two of them, this is the fight that every fan would see.
Casimero has thrown a lot of insults on Inoue, I think it's time that Inoue will take it seriously and that is by signing the fight contract.

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Quote from: tippytoes on August 25, 2021, 06:51:35 PM

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Most of those are news and there's no accurate one or official which will go for the fight. Maybe there is an ongoing negotiations for them and they're not putting that on the news until it's finalized.
The noisier the better and it's making hype so that many curious fans will buy the fight.

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Quote from: tippytoes on August 25, 2021, 06:51:35 PM

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

None at the moment. The speculation is by end of the year but I doubt it will happen given the current date and the amount of time need to arrange the fight, although who knows. Next year probably we can see some light as there will be enough time to arrange it. For now, just maybe making noise to market the fight.

Naoya Inoue is the sure heavy favorites here. A good opportunity for Casimero fans to take advantage of the underdog odds.

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Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

This is the beauty of boxing we can talk all what we want about what we think it is going to happen in a fight but it is not until the fight happens in which we are going to know what actually happened, after all at least to me Inoue seems like the clear favorite but if Casimero can fight in a smart way and avoid some of the most terrible and potent punches of Inoue then the fight could be closer than what we may think it could be.

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

Basing up on past performance or fights then I would go definitely for Inoue on here but I do really see that Casimero does have a chance over when he was fighting Donaire.

This is indeed true that if there are boxers who are eyeing on fighting someone or does have in mind then the promoters would always be having the end decision.

Lets just wait if Arum would really consider on pushing this as long he could really see that he will able to benefit that much specially if this one is really on top of the hype.

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Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

This is the beauty of boxing we can talk all what we want about what we think it is going to happen in a fight but it is not until the fight happens in which we are going to know what actually happened, after all at least to me Inoue seems like the clear favorite but if Casimero can fight in a smart way and avoid some of the most terrible and potent punches of Inoue then the fight could be closer than what we may think it could be.

So are there concrete news coming up with this potential match? Or are they still exchanging tirades here? Promoters sometimes are the bottleneck here as they negotiate the purses of their respective fighters. But it is good that they are gaining interest from the boxing fans. The more noise, the better for their ticket sales. Curious what odds we will get from here. But I am guessing, they will favor Inoue on this bout.

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Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

Yeah I saw the clip on YT. I was wondering If Inoue have made a real response with the trash talking Casimero did in the press because I've read an article where Inoue was a bit upset with Casimero's statement calling him a turtle, then proceed to post some remarks of his own in his twitter account.

Though I am from PH but I guess I'm rooting for the Monster here. I feel like Inoue is in a different level than Casimero in terms of intensity, speed, and power.
However as fellow Filipino, I'm a bit excited of what Casimero could bring to take down the Japanese boxing prodigy.

This is the beauty of boxing we can talk all what we want about what we think it is going to happen in a fight but it is not until the fight happens in which we are going to know what actually happened, after all at least to me Inoue seems like the clear favorite but if Casimero can fight in a smart way and avoid some of the most terrible and potent punches of Inoue then the fight could be closer than what we may think it could be.

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As @bisdak40 have said, Inoue is the A-side, whatever Casimero trash talk, it will be like 70/30 purse. But probably this fight might take place early next year, that is it Bob Arum is willing.

So what happened to the statement of Inoue that he wants to schedule the fight this year?

Arum has to give his boxer a chance to fight the best fighters, otherwise, he can only build a legacy in regard but not on the quality of fights.
I know we all know how the career of Manny ended with Bob Arum, he had a good start, so hopefully, he would do the same with Inoue.

We couldnt tell until we do see on how Inoue would be ending up in regards to his career progression.If Arum would have other plans then he wouldnt have any choice but to follow even if
he do really likes to fight some boxers that he do likes but if the management wouldnt tend to do so then he wont have any choice but to obey on whats mandated as if they dont have
any choice but it would really be nice to see if these two clashes out inside the ring specially now that Inoue is already triggered with those trashtalks then i wont
really be surprised on how this would be ending up

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