[Boxing] Inoue vs Nery For Undisputed 122lbs Title - May - page 10.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 11, 2024, 01:47:15 AM

Inoue's team mentioned before that they will take 2 to 3 title defenses and then they might consider moving up again to 126. I am also expecting Inoue to move up in weight next year.

The difference though is Haney is still young and he just moved up in his second weight division while Inoue already is 6 divisions above once he enters 126. But it should be doable. However I guess 126 is Inoue's final division as he is already in his early 30s. It will be more risky to continue moving up in weight while fighting bigger and heavier opponents.

As long as the boxer can take his power in the higher weight category that's still fine, it will only be stopped once they can hurt their opponents in their new weight division, like in the case of Canelo against Bivol, so Inoue can challenge himself and go further, until he is stopped by one of the top boxer in that division.

We don't know how far Inoue can go because he is a very disciplined fighter and he has good skills featherweight will be the most challenging division, when Pacquiao was campaigning in the lightweight I thought he could not hold out but he proved that he was an extraordinary until he reaches the super welterweight.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 09, 2024, 02:52:15 PM

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Brandon Figueroa has been calling Inoue at 126 lbs and all those champions have been taken notice already that there could be a chance that Inoue will go up again and challenge them in the future.

We really don't know yet, but if we look at Inoue's frame, he could easily add 4 more lbs to his frame or he could be walking at 126 lbs or more in off season so I think there will be no problem for him. And the power though, he could be more powerful when he goes up in weight, similar to Devin Haney wherein he was not known to be a big puncher at 135 lbs, but when he moves to 140 lbs, he knock down a supposedly power puncher in Regis Prograis.

Inoue's team mentioned before that they will take 2 to 3 title defenses and then they might consider moving up again to 126. I am also expecting Inoue to move up in weight next year.

The difference though is Haney is still young and he just moved up in his second weight division while Inoue already is 6 divisions above once he enters 126. But it should be doable. However I guess 126 is Inoue's final division as he is already in his early 30s. It will be more risky to continue moving up in weight while fighting bigger and heavier opponents.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 10, 2024, 11:11:09 AM

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Nery has only 1 loss and 0 draws and then this kind of record is one of the best professionally. Will Nery going to give Inoue with his first loss? We don't know but I agree to you that he should plan well and I think that with all of the matches that he's got, he's going to come prepared against Inoue and even with that, the monster will always be consistent with all of his stance and has always been careful with all of the matches that he's got and so with this upcoming one.

That's what Nery is preparing to do, in this article he was quoted saying that he did not consider Inoue an extraordinary fighter.

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Nery told BoxingScene in an interview through a Spanish translator. “But I've seen his fights and I think he's overrated. I think he's an ordinary fighter, or at least that's how it appears to me. I'm going there looking for the knockout. I'm not going to Japan looking for a decision.

Luis Nery Calls Naoya Inoue ‘Overrated, Overconfident and Ordinary

Although the boxing community thinks differently he will find out on the fight night if he is an extraordinary or just an overrated fighter, I don't think Nery is the one who can deal with Inoue his first loss, he just doesn't have the skill and the power to do that, Marlon Tapales is stronger and skillfully than Nery that's my assessment, but let's see in the fight night.

Everyone is very confident, and the closest that could have been Inoue is the Filipino Flash, Nonito Donaire. But Donaire is on the path of going down and losing his prime years already. And with that, I think a prime Donaire will beat anyone in 122 lbs not name Inoue.

So as much as Nery think he even has equal chance to beat Inoue, this is like a "miracle" if he upset the Japanese monster.

What I like to see is Casimero vs Nery, at least in my mind this is going to be a competitive fight as both are almost equal. But against Inoue they are not match with the Naoya, too fast and powerful.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 10, 2024, 11:11:09 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on April 09, 2024, 06:46:39 PM

Nery has only 1 loss and 0 draws and then this kind of record is one of the best professionally. Will Nery going to give Inoue with his first loss? We don't know but I agree to you that he should plan well and I think that with all of the matches that he's got, he's going to come prepared against Inoue and even with that, the monster will always be consistent with all of his stance and has always been careful with all of the matches that he's got and so with this upcoming one.

That's what Nery is preparing to do, in this article he was quoted saying that he did not consider Inoue an extraordinary fighter.

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Nery told BoxingScene in an interview through a Spanish translator. “But I've seen his fights and I think he's overrated. I think he's an ordinary fighter, or at least that's how it appears to me. I'm going there looking for the knockout. I'm not going to Japan looking for a decision.

Luis Nery Calls Naoya Inoue ‘Overrated, Overconfident and Ordinary

Although the boxing community thinks differently he will find out on the fight night if he is an extraordinary or just an overrated fighter, I don't think Nery is the one who can deal with Inoue his first loss, he just doesn't have the skill and the power to do that

That's okay, if that's what he thinks about Inoue that's totally fine as he's entitled for his opinion and as the opponent of Inoue, he should give himself some confidence that Inoue ain't that strong. He's just going to see it when both of them are inside the ring already. We as fans understands how strong Inoue is and how he has beaten the shit out of his former opponents. We will see if his opinion about him being overrated is real or surreal.

Quote from: robelneo on April 10, 2024, 11:11:09 AM

Marlon Tapales is stronger and skillfully than Nery that's my assessment, but let's see in the fight night.

Despite that Tapales lost against Inoue, he was even praised on how tough he was. He just can't go with continuous jabs against Inoue and he should do that and I think during the fight, he was just looking for some jackpot and lucky punch but it didn't happened. Still, props to him for being strong and tough and he doesn't need to prove himself anymore against Inoue.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 09, 2024, 06:46:39 PM

Nery has only 1 loss and 0 draws and then this kind of record is one of the best professionally. Will Nery going to give Inoue with his first loss? We don't know but I agree to you that he should plan well and I think that with all of the matches that he's got, he's going to come prepared against Inoue and even with that, the monster will always be consistent with all of his stance and has always been careful with all of the matches that he's got and so with this upcoming one.

That's what Nery is preparing to do, in this article he was quoted saying that he did not consider Inoue an extraordinary fighter.

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Nery told BoxingScene in an interview through a Spanish translator. “But I've seen his fights and I think he's overrated. I think he's an ordinary fighter, or at least that's how it appears to me. I'm going there looking for the knockout. I'm not going to Japan looking for a decision.

Luis Nery Calls Naoya Inoue ‘Overrated, Overconfident and Ordinary

Although the boxing community thinks differently he will find out on the fight night if he is an extraordinary or just an overrated fighter, I don't think Nery is the one who can deal with Inoue his first loss, he just doesn't have the skill and the power to do that, Marlon Tapales is stronger and skillfully than Nery that's my assessment, but let's see in the fight night.

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Quote from: yazher on April 09, 2024, 06:34:07 PM

Inoue is just simply getting high improvement in his every fight and this one will also held inside Japan this is his comfort zone which will give him a huge advantage and will gonna make him easily win this one.

No doubt that he's improving time after time but with the venues that he's agreeing with where his matches are going to happen, this is what makes other fans off a bit of him. There's a reason why he wants to box at most times inside his territory and country and that's a boost for his career and certainly, it's all about the cheer of the people that he's getting and the confidence that he's getting. I wonder if any match of his goes out Japan, will he able to win it? It's like always the home court advantage that he's getting but that's far from being skilled. Because no doubt that Inoue sure is a skilled and undefeated boxer.

Quote from: yazher on April 09, 2024, 06:34:07 PM

Nery on the other hand, should come up with a surprising technique that would gonna surprise Inoue and will catch him unguarded with a unique kind of strategy that will surprise him but I doubt that would gonna happen since they have countless intelligent inside the training gym, especially in Japan and that would not be possible to surprise him anymore and he gonna be ready whatever that is.

Nery has only 1 loss and 0 draws and then this kind of record is one of the best professionally. Will Nery going to give Inoue with his first loss? We don't know but I agree to you that he should plan well and I think that with all of the matches that he's got, he's going to come prepared against Inoue and even with that, the monster will always be consistent with all of his stance and has always been careful with all of the matches that he's got and so with this upcoming one.

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Inoue is just simply getting high improvement in his every fight and this one will also held inside Japan this is his comfort zone which will give him a huge advantage and will gonna make him easily win this one. Nery on the other hand, should come up with a surprising technique that would gonna surprise Inoue and will catch him unguarded with a unique kind of strategy that will surprise him but I doubt that would gonna happen since they have countless intelligent inside the training gym, especially in Japan and that would not be possible to surprise him anymore and he gonna be ready whatever that is.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

I agree, Inoue has face the best of this division has to offer, Fulton, Tapales and now Nery. He just needed Casimero in his hitlist and then he complete cleaning up this division. This thread is only 4 pages before the OP has put this very early and we must have forget about this fight because there are big fights that is coming as well. But I do agree that Inoue should step out of his comfort zone and fight in the US.

Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

It will be a big test for Inoue at 126 lbs if he decided to move up. Still there are news that him and Tank Davis is possible for 135 lbs but let's see. I think this could still be considered as a great fight for Inoue.

Tank vs Inoue will be one big fight I think the whole of Japan will fly wherever the fight will be. And this will really be a big money. At 135lbs, Inoue will still be a fast fighter and can fight toe-to-toe with Tank. However, they will not likely make this fight happen until there is a good reason for one to be thrown out the window.

We can wish that this fight is going to happen in the future, just like when we thought that Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar Dela Hoya is not going to happen because Manny is too small. But it did materialized thanks to Larry Merchant for initiating this.

So that could happen though, and if I'm not mistaken, Leonard Ellerbe also talks about this fight and he said that the weight different is too big.

For Inoue, he will have to go as far as 130 lbs to see if he can still be consistent with power and speed at this weight class.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2024, 01:23:16 AM

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

If he is willing to stay, this 3 fighters, Akhmadaliev, Casimero, and Sam Goodman and then that's it. He clean up the division and go south again at 126 lbs.

Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

I don't think he can go as high as welterweight though, Featherweight/Super Featherweight could be his last stop. It will be a hard task for him to challenge the champion of featherweight as majority of them have physical advantage on him, unlike in 118-122 lbs, he has all the advantage, like height, speed and power.

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^^ If I'm not mistaken, Brandon Figueroa has been calling Inoue at 126 lbs and all those champions have been taken notice already that there could be a chance that Inoue will go up again and challenge them in the future.

We really don't know yet, but if we look at Inoue's frame, he could easily add 4 more lbs to his frame or he could be walking at 126 lbs or more in off season so I think there will be no problem for him. And the power though, he could be more powerful when he goes up in weight, similar to Devin Haney wherein he was not known to be a big puncher at 135 lbs, but when he moves to 140 lbs, he knock down a supposedly power puncher in Regis Prograis.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 09, 2024, 10:19:01 AM

Tank vs Inoue will be one big fight I think the whole of Japan will fly wherever the fight will be. And this will really be a big money. At 135lbs, Inoue will still be a fast fighter and can fight toe-to-toe with Tank. However, they will not likely make this fight happen until there is a good reason for one to be thrown out the window.

I wonder if Inoue wants to go further how many years before that materialized, he will have his hands full fist in the featherweight division, before all talks about Tank and Inoue, he should talk fighters in the Featherweight unless he skip this division and go headed in the Lightweight.

He only needs to add 5 kilos and if he can take his power in those divisions he has a chance to win more titles in many divisions, I think he has a good chance in the Featherweight

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 09, 2024, 09:27:45 AM

Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2024, 01:23:16 AM

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

I agree, Inoue has face the best of this division has to offer, Fulton, Tapales and now Nery. He just needed Casimero in his hitlist and then he complete cleaning up this division. This thread is only 4 pages before the OP has put this very early and we must have forget about this fight because there are big fights that is coming as well. But I do agree that Inoue should step out of his comfort zone and fight in the US.

Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

It will be a big test for Inoue at 126 lbs if he decided to move up. Still there are news that him and Tank Davis is possible for 135 lbs but let's see. I think this could still be considered as a great fight for Inoue.

Tank vs Inoue will be one big fight I think the whole of Japan will fly wherever the fight will be. And this will really be a big money. At 135lbs, Inoue will still be a fast fighter and can fight toe-to-toe with Tank. However, they will not likely make this fight happen until there is a good reason for one to be thrown out the window.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2024, 01:23:16 AM

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

I agree, Inoue has face the best of this division has to offer, Fulton, Tapales and now Nery. He just needed Casimero in his hitlist and then he complete cleaning up this division. This thread is only 4 pages before the OP has put this very early and we must have forget about this fight because there are big fights that is coming as well. But I do agree that Inoue should step out of his comfort zone and fight in the US.

Quote from: robelneo on April 09, 2024, 09:22:05 AM

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

It will be a big test for Inoue at 126 lbs if he decided to move up. Still there are news that him and Tank Davis is possible for 135 lbs but let's see. I think this could still be considered as a great fight for Inoue.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2024, 01:23:16 AM

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2024, 01:23:16 AM

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

Maybe the interest of people is less for their fight since there's no clear indication before that their fight would proceed but since right now the discussions towards their fight against Nery is floating up and there is a schedule has been set that's why maybe he give an update regarding on this match.

But for saying he's doesn't have the same popularity as Pacman then we can agree to that. Some people compare him to the legend but in reality his so far to achieve that. He select his opponent and he didn't go out on his comfort zone. But if he can able to go to US to fight those big names on industry and get an outstanding win maybe those people who doubt about his legacy will totally agree that he's the nearest boxer who can break the record of Pacman or maybe became more better.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

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This fight is approaching,

https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

And as I check the odds, Nery is a huge underdog, 7:1. I'm not surprised though, Inoue is really on his prime and we don't see anyone at 122 lbs that can beat him. Even our favorite boxer Casimero, can't last the full 12 rounds in my opinion.

So if Inoue stay here for at least a year or two, he is going to clean up this division for good.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 06, 2024, 09:57:04 AM

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So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. ~~Reymart Gaballo~~ Yoshiki Take.

Finally there's already an official date. it's just sad that Gaballo has been scratch as he was replaced. Well, I think we know that it's still going to be an obvious win for Inoue here as he has not experience slowing down yet, and I don't think Nery is capable enough to beat Inoue especially in his territoty.

I know, many Filipinos are shock that suddenly Gaballo was scratch and no longer fighting for the belt. But it's all business, Top Rank wanted all the money here so they chooses less risk big reward in fighting Take in Japan. He is way below in rankings, unlike Gaballo although the underdog but has the potential to make a upset. Moloney though has duck Inoue and now Gaballo, so that could be a consolation for Filipino supporters as Top Rank doesn't want their champion to face them.

I'm sure Bob Arum know's it very well so they chooses Take, take the fight in Japan and if by chance Moloney will retain his belt and maybe chase for bigger fights in Japan next again with either Nakatani or Inoue for unification, clever plan by Uncle Bob.

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^^ As far as I know there are already 2 champions in the bantamweight division, Naoya Inoue's brother, and then Junto Nakatani beating Alejandro Santiago. And if by chance Take will win against Moloney, it will be their 3rd champion in the 118 lbs. So that is a huge accomplishments as far as Japanese boxing goes and as I have previously, this could be their golden era.

But looking at the rankings, Take is rated #10, so he might be relatively unknown boxer unlike Nakatani and Inoue.

However, he has the homecourt advantage on Moloney here, as the fight is going to be in Japan. Just too bad for Reymart Gaballo, perhaps he will get the winner here so that he could still pursue his dream to become a champion.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 06, 2024, 07:08:36 AM

So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. ~~Reymart Gaballo~~ Yoshiki Take.

Finally there's already an official date. it's just sad that Gaballo has been scratch as he was replaced. Well, I think we know that it's still going to be an obvious win for Inoue here as he has not experience slowing down yet, and I don't think Nery is capable enough to beat Inoue especially in his territoty.

I am not familiar with Yoshiki Take, but I pressume he is a Japanese and it's the Japanese people who are making it possible to have 2 boxers to represent the country in this particular fight. If Yoshiki Take will win, then there will be 2 Japanese champion in the bantamweight division.

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