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So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. Reymart Gaballo Yoshiki Take.
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This is another Inoue show, and it will end in knock out just like he did against his last opponents the division is kinda boring now because of lack of opposition because Inoue is just too good for that division.

It might be, and as much as we hate to see it like that, but it is what we call dominate and cleaning up that division in no time. He has beaten the 2 champion already and Nery is just another rank boxer that he needs to defeat in order to cement his legacy. Next could be Akhmadaliev and then that's it, he had clean it up and should move higher and chase for more greatness.

After this fight, he needs to move up, or at least fight Casimero to have a little bit of excitement in his fights, the featherweight is where his mettle will be tested because fighters like Navarette and Lopez can take big punches, and we can also see if Inoue can take his power in the upper division just like what Manny Pacquiao did.

At 126 lbs, We have Vargas, Luis Lopez, and then Rafael Espinoza. But then again, this boxer is natural 126 lbs and much bigger than Inoue. That's why this division if he decided to move up, will be his biggest challenge and it will really show how Inoue is made of, just like when Manny is moving up and facing bigger guys. To be fair though, Manny was not as dominant when he moves up, he didn't carry the power, but the speed and volume is there that's why he was able to defeat them while moving up. You can hear comments of those boxers that he defeated, it's not about the power of Manny, it's the speed that kills them.
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This is another Inoue show, and it will end in knock out just like he did against his last opponents the division is kinda boring now because of lack of opposition because Inoue is just too good for that division.
After this fight, he needs to move up, or at least fight Casimero to have a little bit of excitement in his fights, the featherweight is where his mettle will be tested because fighters like Navarette and Lopez can take big punches, and we can also see if Inoue can take his power in the upper division just like what Manny Pacquiao did.
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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

Unless he is really a fan of Luis Nery, he might be the single one to vote for him in this community. In the Tapales fight, if I'm not mistaken, there could be some who voted for Marlon and think that he can have that lucky punch to stop Inoue, but it didn't happen. Inoue is very smart and have a underrated boxing IQ.

Because we all see his power, but we don't see how he fight smart, reading his opponent in the first couple of rounds and then once he figure them out, he will go and soften them before putting a late show of numerous knockdowns and the knocking out his opponent good. Nery might have the power, and he could touch Inoue, but I doubt that he can knock him down, IHMO.
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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

In any fight, there would really be always the chance of upset on which this is something that Inoue should really be careful with. The sense of being careless? there should really be no room for error
because once those punches would be landing up, considering that Nery is also a power puncher or have those solid shots then it would really be that so dangerous that he would really be letting his
guard down. Speaking about having a poll then it wont really be that a bad idea considering that despite for Inoue to be heavily favorite but still there would really be those people who would really be
voting for Nery on this one, just like into that previous fight of Inoue that there's still someone who do hope for some upset but of course it didnt happen. Even we do know high likely for the outcome or result but its fun to see those polls somehow.
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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.
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Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.

Maybe that's the right strategy for Nery, better gambler on being agressive, either lose early or win early than let Inoue dictate the fight and will eventually make Nery the same with other fighters that changes their style from beting aggressive to defensive just to survive the fight. Nery could use his ample time to train harder as a win here is going to make him very popular. They say it's almost impossible to beat Inoue at this division, so Nery should make that as an inspiration to train, gets his stamina ready as it's never impossible to beat a boxer even if how strong he is, afterall Inoue is still a human.

Pressure offense, a slugfest, that will destroy the defense of Inoue as for sure he would accept that challenge, but Nery has to improve his speed so he'll be able to catch Inoue good.

Mike Tyson summarized the behavior of every boxer and that every boxer has a plan until they get hit in the face, all of Inoue's opponents have a plan and they will do everything to implement that, that's what they all say during the press conference, unfortunately on fight night after they get hit they change their plans so from planning to be aggressive they become defensive and they just wait and become tentative.

I expect Nery to lay out his plan I'll be taking notes on the plans that he is going to lay out so we can see if he can implement them on fight night or if he will just be another planner outside the ring and a runner inside the ring.
But for me, Nery will have no resistance against Inoue, Nery is not a power puncher and he cannot be considered at the level of Casimero or Donaire so it's going to be an easy win by Inoue here.
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Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.

Maybe that's the right strategy for Nery, better gamble on being agressive, either lose early or win early than let Inoue dictate the fight and will eventually make Nery the same with other fighters that changes their style from beting aggressive to defensive just to survive the fight. Nery could use his ample time to train harder as a win here is going to make him very popular. They say it's almost impossible to beat Inoue at this division, so Nery should make that as an inspiration to train, gets his stamina ready as it's never impossible to beat a boxer even if how strong he is, afterall Inoue is still a human.

Pressure offense, a slugfest, that will destroy the defense of Inoue as for sure he would accept that challenge, but Nery has to improve his speed so he'll be able to catch Inoue good.
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But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.

I agree that this would not be a boring fight for the fans of Inoue and I just don't know how Nery would handle Inoue's bombs if he decided to go toe-to-toe early. The thing is, boxers always have a game plan but that changes whenever they are hit hard.

Yes, Mike Tyson's famous quote.

Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.
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But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.

I agree that this would not be a boring fight for the fans of Inoue and I just don't know how Nery would handle Inoue's bombs if he decided to go toe-to-toe early. The thing is, boxers always have a game plan but that changes whenever they are hit hard.

Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

Perhaps prior to the fight, everyone thought that they will have a good chance against Inoue. So in paper, Fulton as a 2 belt champion is touted to be a boxer that might beat Inoue's style. And then Tapales too, he said before the fight that he is really on what Inoue will give to him. But the fight was not even close. Maybe it's just way to sell the fight but for bettors, Inoue is really very hard to beat.
They tried to play the trash talk before the right but during the actual, they looked like a punching bag to Inoue. As for this division, there's no one that could really match his talent, but there's one boxer I want Inoue to beat and that is Casimero. I know some of you may say that he doesn't deserve the chance, but what I like is that once and for all Casimero will stop the trashtalk once he was dealth with a defeat.

But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.


And even if Nery has a good knockout percentage, Inoue is very hard to hit to even score a knockout against him as Inoue has a good defense too and his chin has never been really crack by anyone.

As I stated, no boxer could match Inoue in this divsion yet, and I don't see Nery as an excemption since he's not a special fighter. Although we can also respect the power of Nery, but in terms of quickness, that he can't beat Inoue on that.
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

Perhaps prior to the fight, everyone thought that they will have a good chance against Inoue. So in paper, Fulton as a 2 belt champion is touted to be a boxer that might beat Inoue's style. And then Tapales too, he said before the fight that he is really on what Inoue will give to him. But the fight was not even close. Maybe it's just way to sell the fight but for bettors, Inoue is really very hard to beat.

And even if Nery has a good knockout percentage, Inoue is very hard to hit to even score a knockout against him as Inoue has a good defense too and his chin has never been really crack by anyone.
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I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

He said in the last 3 years. The first fight of Inoue vs Donaire happened last November 7, 2019, so he is right. The 2nd fight was in 2022 where Inoue just dismantled Donaire and could probably resulted to his silent retirement because we are not seeing him now although he hasn't announce it officially yet.

Maybe you forgot about the year, time flies fast, right?
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.


Inoue is the heavy favorite with the odds interpretation that he is unlikely to lose, so Nery has the challenge here prove to the world that Inoue also has some weakness. The fight is in Japan, all advantage is on Inoue but Nery could make it not necessary anymore if he could end the fight with a knockout.
I cannot think of any fighter that has a chance to beat him in the super welterweight, even Inoue who boast that he can do the job has no advantage against Inoue we will just see Inoue's greatness leading into the upper weight category, we all hope that he moved up he wiped the division and that includes Casimero so no one can say that Inoue did not gave him a chance.

Wrong divison, Inoue is still fighting in the Super bantamweight, and I doubt Inoue will reach the Super welterweight as he is stoo small for the champions.
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

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Inoue is the heavy favorite with the odds interpretation that he is unlikely to lose, so Nery has the challenge here prove to the world that Inoue also has some weakness. The fight is in Japan, all advantage is on Inoue but Nery could make it not necessary anymore if he could end the fight with a knockout.
I cannot think of any fighter that has a chance to beat him in the super welterweight, even Inoue who boast that he can do the job has no advantage against Inoue we will just see Inoue's greatness leading into the upper weight category, we all hope that he moved up he wiped the division and that includes Casimero so no one can say that Inoue did not gave him a chance.
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

Inoue is the heavy favorite with the odds interpretation that he is unlikely to lose, so Nery has the challenge here prove to the world that Inoue also has some weakness. The fight is in Japan, all advantage is on Inoue but Nery could make it not necessary anymore if he could end the fight with a knockout.
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That was on their 2nd fight, but it's the same on their first, Donaire was still aggressive.

You can argue with Kevin Iole if you want, not me.  Grin

You better go back to my earliest post. You were the one who reacted with exaggeration as if Donaire had the upper hand in their first match against Inoue. Donaire only won 3 or 4 rounds in the majority of the scorecards. But here you are referencing their second fight. Here's your joke:

Me: Hey, Fighter A failed to do this against Fighter B in their first fight.
Natalim: Man, what happened to you? You are wrong. Fighter A did that. Take a look at their second fight. Read this article about their second fight.
Me: Lol!  Grin

But anyway let's probably continue discussing sometime in the future after you've actually watched full fights and not just read articles written by content creators from far-away countries for somebody else.

Sorry OP for off-topic responses. I was just responding to a blind fanboy who was triggered by comments on what really happened.

Stay on the argument please. I just reacted with your post claiming that " you cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe". . I don't questioned who makes more punches or who had the upper hand in that fight FYI.

Don't call me blind please because you are also calling those posters who agree with me that Donaire fought Inoue toe to toe.

So these active posters are blind too?
that i could very well agree. in my opinion, donaire really did come close on this fight. he actually was the one who gave a very good fight to inoue.
Maybe he missed that fight and if he could just watch back the old clips of that match for sure he will be amazed of performance done by Donaire.
Yes, he broke Inoue's orbital bone that fight, in their first meeting. We can also say that in the second, Donaire tries to go toe to toe as well ....


or do you understand the meaning of toe to toe fight?

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That was on their 2nd fight, but it's the same on their first, Donaire was still aggressive.

You can argue with Kevin Iole if you want, not me.  Grin

You better go back to my earliest post. You were the one who reacted with exaggeration as if Donaire had the upper hand in their first match against Inoue. Donaire only won 3 or 4 rounds in the majority of the scorecards. But here you are referencing their second fight. Here's your joke:

Me: Hey, Fighter A failed to do this against Fighter B in their first fight.
Natalim: Man, what happened to you? You are wrong. Fighter A did that. Take a look at their second fight. Read this article about their second fight.
Me: Lol!  Grin

But anyway let's probably continue discussing sometime in the future after you've actually watched full fights and not just read articles written by content creators from far-away countries for somebody else.

Sorry OP for off-topic responses. I was just responding to a blind fanboy who was triggered by comments on what really happened.
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You only need to wake up and watch the fight objectively and without bias ,....

Ths is not the argument, but this!

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe.
Seriously man? Do you even know the meaning of toe to toe fight? No offense but let me take you to this article.

https://sports.yahoo.com/naoya-inoue-drops-nonito-donaire-twice-en-route-to-vicious-2nd-round-stoppage-125056195.html
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Donaire, 39, chose to stand and fight a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue, pound-for-pound arguably the most vicious puncher in boxing. Inoue caught him with a right hand to the temple to drop Donaire in the waning seconds of the first.

That was on their 2nd fight, but it's the same on their first, Donaire was still aggressive.

You can argue with Kevin Iole if you want, not me.  Grin
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I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.


Man, what happened to you?  you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

Man, what happened to you? Yes, Donaire hurt Inoue, but did you see Donaire ever release a 4 to 5-punch combinations in that fight? Even if he hurt Inoue, which it indeed happened, did Donaire successfully bank on it and threw multiple-punch combinations? The answer is no.

You only need to wake up and watch the fight objectively and without bias to realize that Donaire had already wobbled and even almost went down as early as the second round. It once again happened in the 5th round and Donaire was even sort of saved by the bell. Donaire was eating punches the whole fight.

When Inoue was just standing right there in front of Donaire, were there combinations thrown by Donaire? No. In the 9th round when Donaire wobbled Inoue, how many follow-up punches did Donaire throw? Single-punch haymakers? In the immediate round that followed it, did Donaire build on that advantage or was it even Inoue on the contrary who was busier?

Late in that fight, Donaire was in survival mode already and the fight could have ended with a knockout. And it was Inoue who was the one attempting to end it. Donaire even run away from Inoue and went down not from impact but from pain.

The fight is amazing. Both fighters gave their best and hurt each other, but don't twist it and make it appear as if Inoue was the one schooled by Donaire. Forget about your bias and appreciate the fight fairly.

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.


Man, what happened to you?  you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

Maybe he missed that fight and if he could just watch back the old clips of that match for sure he will be amazed of performance done by Donaire. He almost got that kid and if he just didn't got hit badly for sure Inoue will be in danger at that fight. But guess Donaire at that time is starting to be out of his prime that's why Inoue got him and score a TKO on their first meet up.

Lol. I didn't miss that fight. It is either you didn't even watch it or you are just posting just for adding another post.

TKO my ass. Lol. Don't make yourself too obvious in just replying for the sake of making a post.
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