[Boxing] Inoue vs Nery For Undisputed 122lbs Title - May - page 12.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 15, 2024, 07:21:59 AM

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I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

Yes, he broke Inoue's orbital bone that fight, in their first meeting. We can also say that in the second, Donaire tries to go toe to toe as well but Inoue has developed already and his ring IQ is better so he just make a quick work of Donaire and his left hook didn't find it's target on Inoue.

So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 15, 2024, 07:21:59 AM

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I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

Maybe he missed that fight and if he could just watch back the old clips of that match for sure he will be amazed of performance done by Donaire. He almost got that kid and if he just didn't got hit badly for sure Inoue will be in danger at that fight. But guess Donaire at that time is starting to be out of his prime that's why Inoue got him and score a TKO on their first meet up.

Highlight of that scene is good but if they are not satisfied with that especially if they are fan of Inoue then maybe they should search the full fight of Inoue vs Donaire 1 and for sure they will be amazed of both fighters performance at that time also we see how bloody the fight is especially for Inoue's side on round 8.

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So far this is the result of the poll
Inoue by KO   - 13 (81.3%)
Inoue by decision   - 3 (18.8%)
Nery by KO   - 0 (0%)
Nery by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 16
All of us voted for Inoue to win by knockout or decision, I will be surprised if Nery gets one vote, Nery is good but Inoue is superb I have already said that no one in Super Bantamweight can beat him or even come close to beating him, Inoue will have 2 or 3 fights in the Super Bantamweight before moving up to the Featherweight where the real challenges are.
I'm more excited to see him fight in the featherweight division than here in the Super Bantamweight this is the division where he could establish is legacy.

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I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

that i could very well agree. in my opinion, donaire really did come close on this fight. he actually was the one who gave a very good fight to inoue. but unfortunately, donaire is not in his prime anymore, he's about to hang his gloves. anyway, there will always be young bloods who can challenge inoue in the future. the power is not forever. just look at pacquiao, his age also caught him in his last fight. but it was still awesome as he wanted a toe-to-toe fight, not many boxers who are very technical inside the ring.

There will be Filipino boxers that could challenge Inoue, but right now, he is slaying Filipino boxers, just like Pacman when he was still on his prime where he was called "MEXICUTIONER" because he KO'd most of the mexican champions that would accept his challenge. Although he already retired, his name will remain as people will not forget the only boxer who is an 8th division champion. Maybe if Inoue can do that, people's admiration will be focus to him.

I have seen some post on Facebook about in comparing into those boxers that they had beaten up in the age of 30, on which you could really see the caliber of Manny Pacquiao comparing to Inoue.
Some are even that telling that mentioning both boxers are really just that not that right or not something worth considering but well they do have their own ways on building up their career.
People cant really just able to avoid on making out some comparison in between fighters knowing that they are really that achieving great into their careers.

When it comes on against Nery, Inoue should really be that careful. This man is more a power puncher compared to Tapales. When it comes to stamina then its really just that average
but he shouldn't really be that confident when it comes to this manner. Inoue might stay for a while into this weight division before going up again.
I could say and much prefer to see that he would go outside japan into his future fights.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 15, 2024, 07:43:58 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 15, 2024, 07:21:59 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 14, 2024, 10:12:28 PM

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

that i could very well agree. in my opinion, donaire really did come close on this fight. he actually was the one who gave a very good fight to inoue. but unfortunately, donaire is not in his prime anymore, he's about to hang his gloves. anyway, there will always be young bloods who can challenge inoue in the future. the power is not forever. just look at pacquiao, his age also caught him in his last fight. but it was still awesome as he wanted a toe-to-toe fight, not many boxers who are very technical inside the ring.

There will be Filipino boxers that could challenge Inoue, but right now, he is slaying Filipino boxers, just like Pacman when he was still on his prime where he was called "MEXICUTIONER" because he KO'd most of the mexican champions that would accept his challenge. Although he already retired, his name will remain as people will not forget the only boxer who is an 8th division champion. Maybe if Inoue can do that, people's admiration will be focus to him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 09, 2024, 07:35:14 AM

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As expected, Inoue is set to defend his title against Luis Nery of Mexico. Just don't understand why the venue will be in Tokyo, Japan as Nery was banned from fighting in Japan due to cheating but I guess it has already been lifted (for confirmation).

No odds yet but as usual, the Japanese Monster will be the heavy favorite on this fight.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/01/the-monster-returns-inoue-vs-nery-clash-confirmed-for-may/

as of 14 voters 12 of us voted for knockout for Inoue and the other 2 is decision also in favor of Inoue meaning all the votes are for the Japanese monster and none is giving something for Nery.

Am not saying that this is a complete win for Inoue but indeed this may be what will happen because I think its not enough for this opponent to take down this monster from Asia at least we are not having one that can beat him these days.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 15, 2024, 07:21:59 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 14, 2024, 10:12:28 PM

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

that i could very well agree. in my opinion, donaire really did come close on this fight. he actually was the one who gave a very good fight to inoue. but unfortunately, donaire is not in his prime anymore, he's about to hang up his gloves. anyway, there will always be young bloods who can challenge inoue in the future. the power is not forever. just look at pacquiao, his age also caught him in his last fight. but it was still awesome as he wanted a toe-to-toe fight. not many boxers are very aggressive inside the ring giving what boxing fans clamor for, coz a lot are considered to be technical boxers, worrying every step inside the ring.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

as he knows the caliber and status quo of inoue, i don't think nery is just sitting down and watching the days go by. so yeah, i highly believe, he is training hard for this upcoming fight because he is facing the current monster inside the ring. but if i am to bet, i will go also for inoue, but not on the line of who will win on this match, but on the other betting lines with at least good odds and worth betting.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 14, 2024, 10:12:28 PM

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

Man, what happened to you? you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 13, 2024, 08:53:04 AM

I am honestly wondering how Nery will make this fight not one-sided. Whether he runs away and constantly be defensive or he bravely exchanges blows against Inoue, he will be defeated.

Really hard to see it, if he goes toe to toe then he might get knockout early like Donaire. If he started slow and just try to feel the power of Inoue, it might end up like Tapales and Fulton wherein Inoue slowly beat them up and soften them before knocking them down.

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

What I can remember is that Donaire doesn't have good defense. He wasn't there exchanging powerful blows with Inoue. He was there as a target who has already wobbled in earlier punches. He was there deciding not to clinch but not trade blows either. He was really hurt resulting to Inoue encouraged to pursue him relentlessly and end the fight right there and then.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 13, 2024, 12:30:13 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

It depends on your bet. Lol. If you bet on handicaps, you won't mind if the fight is boring and ends early for as long as your bet wins. And I am guessing that many who will bet on this match will likely avoid moneyline bets as it will definitely not be worth it if you're betting on Inoue. So many bettors including myself will be looking for better odds under Asian total or winner and round range.

For regular boxing bettors, yes, with a Inoue fight, we shouldn't go for a ML bet as it's not going to be appealing and as what others deam, smart money should not go to ML. So I agree that we should be looking like per round range or what specific round should Inoue stop his opponents, in this case, Nery.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 13, 2024, 08:53:04 AM

I am honestly wondering how Nery will make this fight not one-sided. Whether he runs away and constantly be defensive or he bravely exchanges blows against Inoue, he will be defeated.

Really hard to see it, if he goes toe to toe then he might get knockout early like Donaire. If he started slow and just try to feel the power of Inoue, it might end up like Tapales and Fulton wherein Inoue slowly beat them up and soften them before knocking them down.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 13, 2024, 12:30:13 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

It depends on your bet. Lol. If you bet on handicaps, you won't mind if the fight is boring and ends early for as long as your bet wins. And I am guessing that many who will bet on this match will likely avoid moneyline bets as it will definitely not be worth it if you're betting on Inoue. So many bettors including myself will be looking for better odds under Asian total or winner and round range.

I am honestly wondering how Nery will make this fight not one-sided. Whether he runs away and constantly be defensive or he bravely exchanges blows against Inoue, he will be defeated.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 13, 2024, 12:30:13 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

Yes, but he loves to throw a lot and so he is a volume puncher and that's why people says that he might have a chance to beat Inoue. But I don't think so, Inoue has matured already and getting better every fight.

For sure, Naoya will be the heavy favorite in this fight regardless on how they are going to hype Nery's as a big puncher. Naoya has been with the best in bantamweight and super bantamweight and he beat them all and make them look amateurish.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2024, 11:19:47 PM

I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Yes, I would say that he had a good power at this division, but I think his style is perfect for Inoue. He is very much aggressive which Inoue loves to because he can adjust in the fight and then it bring the best on him. Just like in the Donaire fight, in the second fight, Nonito is very much aggressive but Inoue was ready or at least his boxing IQ is there to make adjustments that why he knock him out.

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Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

I'm not surprised, fighter of the year honors, no one has developed a blue print yet to defeat him and so he will be the favorite in all of his fights so far. And I think everyone here think that he will continue and win by knockout.

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I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

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Another thing, why do this ban have to be lifted just to give way for this fight to happen when it can be outside Japan?

That's one tough question to be answered by the promoters but I don't think the amount of money earned while fighting in Japan is equal or even more than bringing this one to the US. Japanese people are so proud that they get what they wanted and besides Inoue is a local hero for them so they have all the right to enjoy his every fight in their home country.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 11, 2024, 02:24:15 AM

In boxing, rules don't really apply because for the right price just about anybody can be bought.

This does only apply in boxing, even in other sports. Remember that this kind of sport belong to entertainment, and making money is their main priority, so we can't blame them because they see that Inoue vs Nery would be a great fight that will bring money to the promoters. Or maybe this could be their way so Inoue won't be able to fight Casimero which is next in line of Nery?

Another thing, why do this ban have to be lifted just to give way for this fight to happen when it can be outside Japan?

To give way to Inoue's request. The champ can choose which venue and mandate an opponent. Inoue capitalizes on his popularity and promoters favor him as well for he brings the money to the table and I guess it comes with lifting suspensions. He is more comfortable fighting in his own country.

If the Arabs were just fond of little fighting guys, they would have requested Inoue to fight in Saudi offering millions to him like Fury and Ngannou.

Everything would really be depending on money talks on which it would really be just that normal that there would really be sudden adjustments if ever that they would really be able to agree into those terms specially if money would really in between. There would really be no further discussions and it would really be fixed up right away based up on the agreement. Why people do really love for Inoue to fight in other country or venue? They do really think that all of those wins from Japan venue are really that rigged or something that favors him all the time? If we do tend to see all of his performances that do happen into his hometown then it doesnt really have no sense if there would be those people who would really be thinking up that way.

Fighting against Nery? I would say that he shouldnt really be that confident because Nery does have power too and when it comes to speed and stamina then i can say
this guy does have it too. This is why it would be important that he should really know on making out adjustments.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 11, 2024, 04:15:38 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 11, 2024, 02:24:15 AM

In boxing, rules don't really apply because for the right price just about anybody can be bought.

This does only apply in boxing, even in other sports. Remember that this kind of sport belong to entertainment, and making money is their main priority, so we can't blame them because they see that Inoue vs Nery would be a great fight that will bring money to the promoters. Or maybe this could be their way so Inoue won't be able to fight Casimero which is next in line of Nery?

Another thing, why do this ban have to be lifted just to give way for this fight to happen when it can be outside Japan?

To give way to Inoue's request. The champ can choose which venue and mandate an opponent. Inoue capitalizes on his popularity and promoters favor him as well for he brings the money to the table and I guess it comes with lifting suspensions. He is more comfortable fighting in his own country.

If the Arabs were just fond of little fighting guys, they would have requested Inoue to fight in Saudi offering millions to him like Fury and Ngannou.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 11, 2024, 02:24:15 AM

In boxing, rules don't really apply because for the right price just about anybody can be bought.

This does only apply in boxing, even in other sports. Remember that this kind of sport belong to entertainment, and making money is their main priority, so we can't blame them because they see that Inoue vs Nery would be a great fight that will bring money to the promoters. Or maybe this could be their way so Inoue won't be able to fight Casimero which is next in line of Nery?

Another thing, why do this ban have to be lifted just to give way for this fight to happen when it can be outside Japan?

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Quote from: Questat on January 10, 2024, 12:51:00 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 09, 2024, 10:49:06 PM

I had the feeling they would lift Nery's suspension.

Yes, it was already lifted and was reported.
Former WBC champ Luis Nery has suspension lifted, will fight Oct. 6

The WBC suspension was different from the ban he got from the Japanese commission. The WBC comes off as being biased since fighters from their country always get lenient punishments. Six months is just a normal break in between fights in the current generation. Likewise, the Japanese suspension which was supposed to be for life ended up being meaningless because it was lifted as soon as he became a contender to a Japanese champion. In boxing, rules don't really apply because for the right price just about anybody can be bought.

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