[Boxing] Inoue vs Nery For Undisputed 122lbs Title - May - page 7.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 19, 2024, 06:19:33 AM

Bob Arum is an experienced person and he is promoter who has created many great fights and has brought several fighters to extraordinary success.
But regarding this fight which will take place in Japan, there is really nothing to worry about because right now sales in this event have reached $20 million and this fight is not only about being able to put the championship belt on the line but also to produce money.

Changes such as this one have been occurring for the past few years because other nations are also prospering and right now as we can see, they can promote such high-quality fights in their country and not only there, as of now, we often see some major fights happening in the middle-east as well which wasn't the case before. So as long as they can sell the fights, they don't really care in which country it is as long they secure the safety of the boxers and their earnings. Money can really change almost anything and this scenario is one of the examples we are seeing right now. Pacquiao was a nobody before he came out to the US and everything changed positively for him after that and that was not the case for Inoue right now.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 19, 2024, 06:19:33 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on April 18, 2024, 08:55:05 AM

^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

Bob Arum is an experienced person and he is promoter who has created many great fights and has brought several fighters to extraordinary success.
But regarding this fight which will take place in Japan, there is really nothing to worry about because right now sales in this event have reached $20 million and this fight is not only about being able to put the championship belt on the line but also to produce money.
But later it is possible that Inoue will go to the US to have another fight if only Bob Arum still trusts Inoue for the next few fights after finishing with Nery.
This decision has also been well received and avoiding disputes is wise attitude because Inoue himself is great fighter with an undisputed title, he will be able to make lot of money if he keeps Inoue.

I sure they will have good meeting point in the future to be able to build Inoue career for the better, after all Manny Pacquiao could make it big there and it possible that Inoue can do it too.

Is that total sales? If then, you have to deduct the purse to be given to Nery and other expenses. But if you compare that fight to the US, maybe Inoue and his team can get it clean at $20 million. So that is a huge step for him instead of just again, fighting in Japan wherein he is a superstar but if he wants to conquer the boxing world, fight of him should in the the other side of the globe.

And there will be a time that the boxers doesn't want to travel to Japan and fight him specially if he goes up in 126 lbs wherein most of the champions are stateside and will not simply be the B-side and just says they will want go to and travel to Inoue's backyard.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 19, 2024, 02:15:59 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on April 18, 2024, 08:55:05 AM

^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

There's probably a plan about that already, Bob Arum would certainly want to maximize his money on Inoue but they are just taking it slowly. Inoue is still in his prime and maybe the next time he'll move up in weight, that's where they'll need Bob Arum to do his job.

Yes, but I think Arum should really make Inoue fight in the US. I mean he had sign him in 2019, so that is already 5 years ago and maybe that contract will be up and not sure if Inoue will sign with him again. So that is the difficult part of Arum side, what if Inoue didn't re-sign and opted to go for Matchroom for example.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 19, 2024, 02:15:59 AM

Let's be patient, maybe after this fight, Inoue will realize that he is ready to move up as he had already dominated the super bantamweight division. I can see the list of champions in the higher division, they aren't even as popular as Inoue, so I'm sure we will see the same scanario like in his current division.

He had dominated 2 weight class already. But yeah, the true test will be at 126 lbs and we understand why he is reluctant to go up in that weight class as they say that they are going to stay here and defend the belts starting with Nery.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 18, 2024, 08:55:05 AM

^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

Bob Arum is an experienced person and he is promoter who has created many great fights and has brought several fighters to extraordinary success.
But regarding this fight which will take place in Japan, there is really nothing to worry about because right now sales in this event have reached $20 million and this fight is not only about being able to put the championship belt on the line but also to produce money.
But later it is possible that Inoue will go to the US to have another fight if only Bob Arum still trusts Inoue for the next few fights after finishing with Nery.
This decision has also been well received and avoiding disputes is wise attitude because Inoue himself is great fighter with an undisputed title, he will be able to make lot of money if he keeps Inoue.

I sure they will have good meeting point in the future to be able to build Inoue career for the better, after all Manny Pacquiao could make it big there and it possible that Inoue can do it too.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 18, 2024, 08:55:05 AM

^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

There's probably a plan about that already, Bob Arum would certainly want to maximize his money on Inoue but they are just taking it slowly. Inoue is still in his prime and maybe the next time he'll move up in weight, that's where they'll need Bob Arum to do his job.

Let's be patient, maybe after this fight, Inoue will realize that he is ready to move up as he had already dominated the super bantamweight division. I can see the list of champions in the higher division, they aren't even as popular as Inoue, so I'm sure we will see the same scanario like in his current division.

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^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 18, 2024, 12:22:12 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 17, 2024, 11:58:44 PM

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

There's big money in vegas for heavier division than where Inoue is at now. He needs ot move up to enjoy a big paycheck just like Manny. Before Manny earned good money, he wasn't earning much in a lower division, that's probably the reason why he didn't stay long in a lower division and just keep moving up until he reach his limit. Inoue on the other hand, didn't rush things, it seems like he is already satisfied fighting in Japan with the money he is making, not too ambitious and risk taker I must say.

yeah right, this is the list of the top earnings fo Pacman per fight.

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SR. NO.   DATE   FIGHT   PURSE
1   2 May, 2015   Pacquaio vs Mayweather   $130,000,000
2   14 November 2009   Pacquaio vs Cotto   $35,000,000
3   13 November 2010   Pacquaio vs Margarito   $35,000,000
4   9 April 2016   Pacquaio vs Bradley III   $33,000,000
5   24 November 2013   Pacquaio vs Rios   $30,000,000
6   15 March 2008   Pacquaio vs Marquez II   $30,000,000
7   7 May 2011   Pacquaio vs Mosley   $20,000,000
8   8 December 2012   Pacquaio vs Marquez I   $20,000,000
9   9 June 2012   Pacquaio vs Bradley I   $20,000,000
10   12 April 2014   Pacquaio vs Bradley II   $20,000,000

source : https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

As we can see, none on the fights listed are a super bantamweight fight. Maybe what Inoue is earning is bigger than the normal fights of Super bantamweight so he choose to fight in Japan, but if he wants that figures, then he know the answer already.

Pacquiao didn't stay that long in the super bantamweight, his best weight is 147 lbs.

But if we are going to compare him again with Inoue, obviously, the Japanese will have to go up in weight class. Although he is recognized today and could be in the top 5 pound for pound, if he wanted to generate more money US should be his target, plain and simple. He keeps on fighting on Japan, but that should change, in my opinion.

Good to see we are seeing the numbers here. yeah, he should move up if wants to earn $20 million or more. With the type of boxer he is, he is very exciting to watch, as long as he is in the right venue, and right promoter which he is already with now, nothing is impossible for him.

he shouldn't waste the talent he has, find the opportunity to maximize the income more and achieve more as time will come when he aged, his performance will also declined just like MP.

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Quote from: Questat on April 18, 2024, 02:49:00 AM

Quote from: Japinat on April 18, 2024, 12:22:12 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 17, 2024, 11:58:44 PM

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

There's big money in vegas for heavier division than where Inoue is at now. He needs ot move up to enjoy a big paycheck just like Manny. Before Manny earned good money, he wasn't earning much in a lower division, that's probably the reason why he didn't stay long in a lower division and just keep moving up until he reach his limit. Inoue on the other hand, didn't rush things, it seems like he is already satisfied fighting in Japan with the money he is making, not too ambitious and risk taker I must say.

yeah right, this is the list of the top earnings fo Pacman per fight.

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SR. NO.   DATE   FIGHT   PURSE
1   2 May, 2015   Pacquaio vs Mayweather   $130,000,000
2   14 November 2009   Pacquaio vs Cotto   $35,000,000
3   13 November 2010   Pacquaio vs Margarito   $35,000,000
4   9 April 2016   Pacquaio vs Bradley III   $33,000,000
5   24 November 2013   Pacquaio vs Rios   $30,000,000
6   15 March 2008   Pacquaio vs Marquez II   $30,000,000
7   7 May 2011   Pacquaio vs Mosley   $20,000,000
8   8 December 2012   Pacquaio vs Marquez I   $20,000,000
9   9 June 2012   Pacquaio vs Bradley I   $20,000,000
10   12 April 2014   Pacquaio vs Bradley II   $20,000,000

source : https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

As we can see, none on the fights listed are a super bantamweight fight. Maybe what Inoue is earning is bigger than the normal fights of Super bantamweight so he choose to fight in Japan, but if he wants that figures, then he know the answer already.

Pacquiao didn't stay that long in the super bantamweight, his best weight is 147 lbs.

But if we are going to compare him again with Inoue, obviously, the Japanese will have to go up in weight class. Although he is recognized today and could be in the top 5 pound for pound, if he wanted to generate more money US should be his target, plain and simple. He keeps on fighting on Japan, but that should change, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 18, 2024, 12:22:12 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 17, 2024, 11:58:44 PM

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

There's big money in vegas for heavier division than where Inoue is at now. He needs ot move up to enjoy a big paycheck just like Manny. Before Manny earned good money, he wasn't earning much in a lower division, that's probably the reason why he didn't stay long in a lower division and just keep moving up until he reach his limit. Inoue on the other hand, didn't rush things, it seems like he is already satisfied fighting in Japan with the money he is making, not too ambitious and risk taker I must say.

yeah right, this is the list of the top earnings fo Pacman per fight.

Quote

SR. NO.   DATE   FIGHT   PURSE
1   2 May, 2015   Pacquaio vs Mayweather   $130,000,000
2   14 November 2009   Pacquaio vs Cotto   $35,000,000
3   13 November 2010   Pacquaio vs Margarito   $35,000,000
4   9 April 2016   Pacquaio vs Bradley III   $33,000,000
5   24 November 2013   Pacquaio vs Rios   $30,000,000
6   15 March 2008   Pacquaio vs Marquez II   $30,000,000
7   7 May 2011   Pacquaio vs Mosley   $20,000,000
8   8 December 2012   Pacquaio vs Marquez I   $20,000,000
9   9 June 2012   Pacquaio vs Bradley I   $20,000,000
10   12 April 2014   Pacquaio vs Bradley II   $20,000,000

source : https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

As we can see, none on the fights listed are a super bantamweight fight. Maybe what Inoue is earning is bigger than the normal fights of Super bantamweight so he choose to fight in Japan, but if he wants that figures, then he know the answer already.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 17, 2024, 11:58:44 PM

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

There's big money in vegas for heavier division than where Inoue is at now. He needs ot move up to enjoy a big paycheck just like Manny. Before Manny earned good money, he wasn't earning much in a lower division, that's probably the reason why he didn't stay long in a lower division and just keep moving up until he reach his limit. Inoue on the other hand, didn't rush things, it seems like he is already satisfied fighting in Japan with the money he is making, not too ambitious and risk taker I must say.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

Maybe the interest of people is less for their fight since there's no clear indication before that their fight would proceed but since right now the discussions towards their fight against Nery is floating up and there is a schedule has been set that's why maybe he give an update regarding on this match.

But for saying he's doesn't have the same popularity as Pacman then we can agree to that. Some people compare him to the legend but in reality his so far to achieve that. He select his opponent and he didn't go out on his comfort zone. But if he can able to go to US to fight those big names on industry and get an outstanding win maybe those people who doubt about his legacy will totally agree that he's the nearest boxer who can break the record of Pacman or maybe became more better.

I very much agree on Pacman choosing on any opponent without being afraid of receiving a loss. The knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez would be enough to cause many boxers retire. However, this has only made Pacman stronger and win more championships in the welterweight division.

@Baofeng. Tank will be big for him, however. Also, he uses the contract agreements to get an advantage vs. his opponents. Naoya should not fight a man like him. The fight I would like to watch for Naoya next is Brandion Figueroa in the Featherweight division hehehe.

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

Maybe the interest of people is less for their fight since there's no clear indication before that their fight would proceed but since right now the discussions towards their fight against Nery is floating up and there is a schedule has been set that's why maybe he give an update regarding on this match.

But for saying he's doesn't have the same popularity as Pacman then we can agree to that. Some people compare him to the legend but in reality his so far to achieve that. He select his opponent and he didn't go out on his comfort zone. But if he can able to go to US to fight those big names on industry and get an outstanding win maybe those people who doubt about his legacy will totally agree that he's the nearest boxer who can break the record of Pacman or maybe became more better.

I very much agree on Pacman choosing on any opponent without being afraid of receiving a loss. The knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez would be enough to cause many boxers retire. However, this has only made Pacman stronger and win more championships in the welterweight division.

@Baofeng. Tank will be big for him, however. Also, he uses the contract agreements to get an advantage vs. his opponents. Naoya should not fight a man like him. The fight I would like to watch for Naoya next is Brandion Figueroa in the Featherweight division hehehe.

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And that's a lot of pressure on Inoue if he is being compared to the great Manny Pacquiao

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But I think Inoue is holding his own ground at this point, and he is still undefeated and cleaning up the divisions that he dominated. So there is no comparison whatsoever as Manny is a wrecking crew, going as high as he can.

Nery could be just another test on how great Inoue is, he could adjust in the game itself like in the Fulton and Tapales fight and I think that's what makes Inoue great. The ability to adapt if their plans are not working. And so we appreciate his body of work again and again, and I don't know what kind of strategy Nery will used here to beat Naoya because Inoue is always one step ahead of his opponent.

It cant really be avoided for Inoue to be compared to Manny Pacquiao, if we do tend to recall about their meet ups and some prescon about some slight boxing tips and other things then you could really see
that Pacquiao is really that interested into this fighter on which fans would really be trying out to compare their idol into those legendary like Pacquiao. Actually its not really that too far off and if Inoue would really be
taking up on the same step or path he would be taking then no doubt that he would be able to obtain it but basing up on how fast or often his fights been arranged then he would definitely be needing to
fast pace up a bit in climbing up different weight divisions if he wanted to beat up the record.

The right thing to do, make it faster in moving up as time is his enemy here. While he is still on his prime, he should be taking big fights but to make it happen in Japen, that's unlikely. I like to see Inoue fighting Tank Davis, if he beat Davis, that would put his name at the top and will be recognize as probably the best now. I hope he will take if that opportunity will open up, I know he can because I believe he is quicker and more powerful than Davis, but provided he will be able to carry his power when moving up.

He said though that he will be staying at 122 lbs for sometime, and so this fight he will start to defend his belt and will not be moving up. I like the idea of him and Tank fighting as 135 lbs, that is if Tank will remain at his comfortable weight class and Inoue going up.

It's like a dream fight between Manny and Oscar. But I doubt that it will happened soon as I said, Inoue will stay at 122 lbs for at least this year and then maybe take 126 lbs in a couple of years. And by that time Tank might not have the time and will have to move up to 140 lbs as his body might have problems staying at 135 lbs for two years.

If he had said that then we might not be able to see on breaking those other divisions if he would deciding on taking up some time or stay into the current division that he's in but well its his choice!

He might really be considering on having a retirement with having no loss or defeat rather than on breaking that 8 division champion. If he would really be making that slow movement about
arrangement on his fights the he might not be able to do it just like on what others been saying. If he had plans on being that undefeated then its up to his plans and preference.
Nery is a good fighter but i doubt that Inoue would really be that beating up him up on 5-6 rounds if he wouldnt really be taking any solid punches in body.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 15, 2024, 04:05:12 PM

And that's a lot of pressure on Inoue if he is being compared to the great Manny Pacquiao

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https://www.givemesport.com/1708831-naoya-inoue-compared-to-manny-pacquiao-ahead-of-michael-dasmarinas-title-fight/

But I think Inoue is holding his own ground at this point, and he is still undefeated and cleaning up the divisions that he dominated. So there is no comparison whatsoever as Manny is a wrecking crew, going as high as he can.

Nery could be just another test on how great Inoue is, he could adjust in the game itself like in the Fulton and Tapales fight and I think that's what makes Inoue great. The ability to adapt if their plans are not working. And so we appreciate his body of work again and again, and I don't know what kind of strategy Nery will used here to beat Naoya because Inoue is always one step ahead of his opponent.

It cant really be avoided for Inoue to be compared to Manny Pacquiao, if we do tend to recall about their meet ups and some prescon about some slight boxing tips and other things then you could really see
that Pacquiao is really that interested into this fighter on which fans would really be trying out to compare their idol into those legendary like Pacquiao. Actually its not really that too far off and if Inoue would really be
taking up on the same step or path he would be taking then no doubt that he would be able to obtain it but basing up on how fast or often his fights been arranged then he would definitely be needing to
fast pace up a bit in climbing up different weight divisions if he wanted to beat up the record.

The right thing to do, make it faster in moving up as time is his enemy here. While he is still on his prime, he should be taking big fights but to make it happen in Japen, that's unlikely. I like to see Inoue fighting Tank Davis, if he beat Davis, that would put his name at the top and will be recognize as probably the best now. I hope he will take if that opportunity will open up, I know he can because I believe he is quicker and more powerful than Davis, but provided he will be able to carry his power when moving up.

He said though that he will be staying at 122 lbs for sometime, and so this fight he will start to defend his belt and will not be moving up. I like the idea of him and Tank fighting as 135 lbs, that is if Tank will remain at his comfortable weight class and Inoue going up.

It's like a dream fight between Manny and Oscar. But I doubt that it will happened soon as I said, Inoue will stay at 122 lbs for at least this year and then maybe take 126 lbs in a couple of years. And by that time Tank might not have the time and will have to move up to 140 lbs as his body might have problems staying at 135 lbs for two years.

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Quote from: Zadicar on April 17, 2024, 07:46:43 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 15, 2024, 04:05:12 PM

And that's a lot of pressure on Inoue if he is being compared to the great Manny Pacquiao

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But I think Inoue is holding his own ground at this point, and he is still undefeated and cleaning up the divisions that he dominated. So there is no comparison whatsoever as Manny is a wrecking crew, going as high as he can.

Nery could be just another test on how great Inoue is, he could adjust in the game itself like in the Fulton and Tapales fight and I think that's what makes Inoue great. The ability to adapt if their plans are not working. And so we appreciate his body of work again and again, and I don't know what kind of strategy Nery will used here to beat Naoya because Inoue is always one step ahead of his opponent.

It cant really be avoided for Inoue to be compared to Manny Pacquiao, if we do tend to recall about their meet ups and some prescon about some slight boxing tips and other things then you could really see
that Pacquiao is really that interested into this fighter on which fans would really be trying out to compare their idol into those legendary like Pacquiao. Actually its not really that too far off and if Inoue would really be
taking up on the same step or path he would be taking then no doubt that he would be able to obtain it but basing up on how fast or often his fights been arranged then he would definitely be needing to
fast pace up a bit in climbing up different weight divisions if he wanted to beat up the record.

The right thing to do, make it faster in moving up as time is his enemy here. While he is still on his prime, he should be taking big fights but to make it happen in Japen, that's unlikely. I like to see Inoue fighting Tank Davis, if he beat Davis, that would put his name at the top and will be recognize as probably the best now. I hope he will take if that opportunity will open up, I know he can because I believe he is quicker and more powerful than Davis, but provided he will be able to carry his power when moving up.

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And that's a lot of pressure on Inoue if he is being compared to the great Manny Pacquiao

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But I think Inoue is holding his own ground at this point, and he is still undefeated and cleaning up the divisions that he dominated. So there is no comparison whatsoever as Manny is a wrecking crew, going as high as he can.

Nery could be just another test on how great Inoue is, he could adjust in the game itself like in the Fulton and Tapales fight and I think that's what makes Inoue great. The ability to adapt if their plans are not working. And so we appreciate his body of work again and again, and I don't know what kind of strategy Nery will used here to beat Naoya because Inoue is always one step ahead of his opponent.

It cant really be avoided for Inoue to be compared to Manny Pacquiao, if we do tend to recall about their meet ups and some prescon about some slight boxing tips and other things then you could really see
that Pacquiao is really that interested into this fighter on which fans would really be trying out to compare their idol into those legendary like Pacquiao. Actually its not really that too far off and if Inoue would really be
taking up on the same step or path he would be taking then no doubt that he would be able to obtain it but basing up on how fast or often his fights been arranged then he would definitely be needing to
fast pace up a bit in climbing up different weight divisions if he wanted to beat up the record.

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Quote from: AliMan on April 16, 2024, 09:30:36 AM

The improvement that I meant to be is how he could sustain that ability of not having any loss for such a long time. We can't predict certain situation or scenario to be consistent in this world, even pacman has lost in his fights if you're going to review the history of his boxing career. What I appreciated with Innoe is his humble answers for admitting that couldn't go further on that division but who knows someday he'll try to come up to that point of trying to level up himself just like Manny had.

That is not improvement though, on the other hand it will look bad for him if he wants to keep that undefeated record and just fight in Japan. He is already the best fighter coming from Japan and he shouldn't be concern of that because it's like the golden age of Japan boxing as they have a lot of belt holders. If Inoue wanted to raise the bar for Japanese fighter then it is to go out and fight in the US. And if he successfully defend his belt against Nery this May and if he decided to move up in weight class, what a better way to do it that fighting in the US at the featherweight division.

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But seriously, does anyone here believe on Bob Arum's comment? Can Inoue be better than Pacman in terms of achievement in boxing?

At this moment, he is the closest boxer to surpass Manny if he ever successfully managed to step forward and win another championship belt there and at the same time he unified it all but as we all know, the more you increase your weight, the harder the opponent can be and that's why Manny stop at the Middleweight and he didn't want to depend on his title after he won from Margarito. That's why Inoue takes slowly to go higher and chooses to give others some chance to take the belt from him at their current weight division because his body can't take a sudden weight chance and take a huge power puncher along with their speed.

It's not impossible for Innoe to level up the skills that Manny had been achieved for this boxing career. What's most important for him is to go more trainings and strategy to develop in order for him to acquire a lot of power and different techniques to reach that stage of mastery. The undeniable journey of Pacman has proven for years, and if ever this aspiring boxer will take the best chance to next level of challenge I believed he will do the best that he could to defend his title once there's a possible opportunity of another weight division comes.

I really don't understand what you mean, Inoue is already on his prime, he has the power already, so you are telling us he needs more power? How come someone improve power? Different technique? He hasn't lost, so what kind of improvement he will need?

Pacman's path is very different and that's why majority us here believed that it's one of kind that we will see this talent, and we are glad that we witnessed him in our generation. Inoue admitted that he could go as high as 126 lbs and so it means he can't follow what Pacman has done, winning 8 divisions.

The improvement that I meant to be is how he could sustain that ability of not having any loss for such a long time. We can't predict certain situation or scenario to be consistent in this world, even pacman has lost in his fights if you're going to review the history of his boxing career. What I appreciated with Innoe is his humble answers for admitting that couldn't go further on that division but who knows someday he'll try to come up to that point of trying to level up himself just like Manny had.

Losses though are not a real gauge as how great you are in boxing. Like you said, Manny Pacquiao has many loses as compare to Floyd who is undefeated. But if you are going to look, there are boxing analyst who put Manny above Floyd in terms of greatness.

Even the GOAT himself Muhammad Ali has loses in his record. So he shouldn't be looking to sustain a unbeaten record, he is still dominant, but later we will found out how good he is if he goes up in weight again and chase another belt.

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Quote from: AliMan on April 16, 2024, 09:30:36 AM

The improvement that I meant to be is how he could sustain that ability of not having any loss for such a long time. We can't predict certain situation or scenario to be consistent in this world, even pacman has lost in his fights if you're going to review the history of his boxing career. What I appreciated with Innoe is his humble answers for admitting that couldn't go further on that division but who knows someday he'll try to come up to that point of trying to level up himself just like Manny had.

He doesn't want to push his limit? That's not the character of a warrior, maybe he is just trying to keep his undefeated record and be the best figther in Japan because he keeps fighting in his country while his fans internally are hoping that he'll fight in US to fight other champions in a heavier division.

Inoue has nothing to prove, he won being undisputed in more than 1 divisions, but it's not up to us to say what we want for him because he knows what he can do only. I'm hoping that he is taking his matter slowly but surely, and he still considering moving up.

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But seriously, does anyone here believe on Bob Arum's comment? Can Inoue be better than Pacman in terms of achievement in boxing?

At this moment, he is the closest boxer to surpass Manny if he ever successfully managed to step forward and win another championship belt there and at the same time he unified it all but as we all know, the more you increase your weight, the harder the opponent can be and that's why Manny stop at the Middleweight and he didn't want to depend on his title after he won from Margarito. That's why Inoue takes slowly to go higher and chooses to give others some chance to take the belt from him at their current weight division because his body can't take a sudden weight chance and take a huge power puncher along with their speed.

It's not impossible for Innoe to level up the skills that Manny had been achieved for this boxing career. What's most important for him is to go more trainings and strategy to develop in order for him to acquire a lot of power and different techniques to reach that stage of mastery. The undeniable journey of Pacman has proven for years, and if ever this aspiring boxer will take the best chance to next level of challenge I believed he will do the best that he could to defend his title once there's a possible opportunity of another weight division comes.

I really don't understand what you mean, Inoue is already on his prime, he has the power already, so you are telling us he needs more power? How come someone improve power? Different technique? He hasn't lost, so what kind of improvement he will need?

Pacman's path is very different and that's why majority us here believed that it's one of kind that we will see this talent, and we are glad that we witnessed him in our generation. Inoue admitted that he could go as high as 126 lbs and so it means he can't follow what Pacman has done, winning 8 divisions.

The improvement that I meant to be is how he could sustain that ability of not having any loss for such a long time. We can't predict certain situation or scenario to be consistent in this world, even pacman has lost in his fights if you're going to review the history of his boxing career. What I appreciated with Innoe is his humble answers for admitting that couldn't go further on that division but who knows someday he'll try to come up to that point of trying to level up himself just like Manny had.

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